The Proper Transfans Disney Buys Lucasfilm Thread

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:18 pm

For the three or so people who haven't already joined in on the discussion with me, Brend and ID on Facebook, Disney buys Lucasfilm. George Lucas WILL NOT DIRECT ANY MORE STAR WARS FILMS. They are going to be in other hands.

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Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:53 pm

More importantly, it also means Lucas won't be able to **** about with Indy anymore either.

HE'LL HAVE TO FIND SOMETHING NEW TO DO.

Let's recast Episode IV with Pixar characters because I want to:

R2D2 = Wall-E

Actually sod it, I can't be bothered to do any more.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:02 pm

Yay new star wars.
I cant wait,i wonder if disney would dig old harrison ford out to play han solo once more?

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:15 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote: I cant wait,i wonder if disney would dig old harrison ford out to play han solo once more?

That's exactly the question that came to mind when I heard this news.

Because if the answer is 'yes', you're going to see box office records fall and even the likes of the Avengers take a back seat. If the answer is 'no', then it will make half as much as it could.

But if they could at least nab Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, and Billie Dee Williams, they should be able to outperform the prequels. AND, there's a rumor Christopher Nolan might be interested in the Star Wars property. Hmmm....

I've been asking for sequels with these icon stars for years. It just seemed like money in the bank, yet Lucus never seemed to entertain the idea. Or maybe Harrison Ford turned down the offer.

Han Solo makes all the difference in the world when you talk success of a Return of the Jedi sequel.

Oh, and WATCH THE CLONE WARS!!!!

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:44 pm

Given Cowboys vs. Aliens and the fact that Harrison Ford has already shown in his old age he's willing to ravage famous characters to make some bucks (Looking at you, Crystal Skull), I don't think he'd actually be much of a problem. According to the Internet, the biggest problem would be Carrie Fisher, but that's only because the Internet is a misogynistic, superficial asshole who gets violent when its drunk. But even then, in a Episode 7 with the Old Trinity, I would think it would mainly be "Han and Leia in a handful of scenes showing them old and regal and fat and happy and then Luke training new Jedis."

I'm of two minds on this:

One mind says everyone can play in the Star Wars sandbox, Disney has done an awesome job with Marvel so far, and did we mention Episodes 7-9??????

The other mind says Disney is Disney, and now Disney is also Marvel, ESPN, and Star Wars (Pixar was always Disney, and not to mention Indiana Jones, ALSO previously property of Lucasfilm). And that's just a BIT too much media conglomeration for me. It's one small step for Star Wars, one giant leap towards Disney turning into a media version of MomCorp from Futurama.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:10 pm

Shanti418 wrote:Given Cowboys vs. Aliens and the fact that Harrison Ford has already shown in his old age he's willing to ravage famous characters to make some bucks (Looking at you, Crystal Skull). I don't think he'd actually be much of a problem.

I don't know, Harrison Ford is a strange bird with an ostrich-sized ego. I'm 90% sure he'll turn it down, 10% hopeful he won't. He's always loved Indiana Jones more than Han Solo.

I think Carrie Fischer would be on board, and likely, Hamill would die to do it. I saw Hamill a couple years ago though at Comic Con. The years haven't been kind, I'll tell you that. Major poundage, but I'm pretty sure Fisher and Hamill could get into shape by 2015.

I would say the most likely thing to happen is that the sequels will be set many years after ROTJ and the most we'd get is an old wise Mark Hamill, as you said. Anything more than that would be a surprise.

What's Lando been up to anyway?

I'm of two minds on this:

The other mind says Disney is Disney, and now Disney is also Marvel, ESPN, and Star Wars (Pixar was always Disney, and not to mention Indiana Jones, ALSO previously property of Lucasfilm). And that's just a BIT too much media conglomeration for me. It's one small step for Star Wars, one giant leap towards Disney turning into a media version of MomCorp from Futurama.

That is kind of scary. Didn't know about the ESPN purchase. They're becoming the new Time Warner. Nevertheless, given how Disney has handled acquiring Marvel, I don't think they'd do a bad job if they relinquished control to those most well versed in Star Wars mythology. As good a director as Nolan is, I'd be apprehensive about him tackling something like Star Wars. Spielberg maybe? Or Dave Filoni, writer of the Clone Wars. That guy knows Star Wars in and out and just gets it.

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:21 am

Yaya wrote:

Oh, and WATCH THE CLONE WARS!!!!

That was the third reply? You're slipping, Ya.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:30 am

What's Disney's next acquisition? Nickelodeon? Hasbro?

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:51 am

Professor Smooth wrote:What's Disney's next acquisition? Nickelodeon? Hasbro?

Well now that I'm thinking about you Smooth, I'm thinking...."Anime/Manga seems like a big burgeoning global market aimed at kids that Disney has little to no footprint in...."

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:34 am

Shanti418 wrote:
Professor Smooth wrote:What's Disney's next acquisition? Nickelodeon? Hasbro?
Well now that I'm thinking about you Smooth, I'm thinking...."Anime/Manga seems like a big burgeoning global market aimed at kids that Disney has little to no footprint in...."

That's questionable. Literally everything that modern mainstream manga is owes its existance to Tezuka Osamu's love of Disney.

Osamu was a massive fan of Disney comics and based his own comic book designs (huge eyes, etc) on them. They were such massive hits that seemingly every other manga artist since has aped that style.

*slaps forehead*

Oh! How did I forget this? No footprint in anime/manga? They have the English-language rights to the Studio Ghibli library. Those are are some of the best (in the eyes of critics, fans, and box office receipts) works of Japanese animation.

Man. Pixar. Ghibli. Marvel. Lucasfilms/arts/etc. Disney is a freaking BEAST! A beautiful, beautiful, beast.

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:40 am

Brendocon wrote:More importantly, it also means Lucas won't be able to **** about with Indy anymore either.

Apparently no one can at the moment till Disney and Paramount come to terms (as Paramount have a contract for five Indy films they'd still have distribution rights for the next one). As they managed it with the Marvel pie Paramount had a finger in this shouldn't theoretically be that hard, but Disney apparently consider it a very low priority when they can just make loads of Star Wars and keep 100% of the profit to make many multiples of that four billion back as quickly as possible.

To a certain extent, directing the next Star Wars film is going to be the easiest job in Hollywood really. It's pretty much guaranteed to make money no matter what you do, and the one thing you need for the fans to love and forgive everything you do is not to be George Lucas.

Seriously, they could give that orang-utan who used to hang round with Clint Eastwood the job and fans would still be all "At least he hasn't had Han fire second".

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:25 am

http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-tal ... 54367.html

Lucus had lunch with Hamill and Fisher! He had lunch! SQUEEEEEEEE!

Post by **Best First** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:19 am

I'm pretty excited about it all.

And if it leads to a load of sheeite...

I'll just rewatch Serenity*

i'll probably do this anyway

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:10 am

Yaya wrote:Lucus had lunch with Hamill and Fisher! He had lunch! SQUEEEEEEEE!

Oh my god a person who has to eat ate with some other people who he's known for 30+ years.

Stop the ******* presses.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:34 pm

Brendocon wrote:
Yaya wrote:Lucus had lunch with Hamill and Fisher! He had lunch! SQUEEEEEEEE!
Oh my god a person who has to eat ate with some other people who he's known for 30+ years.

Stop the ******* presses.

They ate lunch! For the love of God, they were hungry! They ate lunch! Lunch, I tell ya, lunch!

I guess you didn't catch the sarcasm there. "SQUEEEEEEEEE!" just drips with it.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:48 pm

I have never knowingly seen the term squee used sarcastically when used as a standalone capitalised exclamation.

I think you're covering yourself.

I think you're genuinely excited by the notion of George Lucas eating like a normal person would.

Although not as excited as you'd be if he were eating in 3D.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:21 pm

Brendocon wrote: I think you're genuinely excited by the notion of George Lucas eating like a normal person would.

Although not as excited as you'd be if he were eating in 3D.

Lucus does eat in 3-D, okay pal? SQUEEEEEE!!!!!

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:24 pm

Brendocon wrote:
Yaya wrote:Lucus had lunch with Hamill and Fisher! He had lunch! SQUEEEEEEEE!
Oh my god a person who has to eat ate with some other people who he's known for 30+ years.

Stop the ******* presses.

Well, he can afford to buy them lunch now.

Apparently he's given "Most" of the four billion to charity, in order to fund education. Hey George, I need some serious educating, throw us a few million will you?

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:19 pm

Geez, the guy gives billions to charity and he STILL can't catch a break? Difficult.

Anyway, I thought a great point was made by Bryan Curtis on grantland.com

The big riddle to me is the 180-degree change in Lucas’s m.o. Since THX 1138, Lucas has said — and said and said and said — that the artist should control the rights to his material. This was the impetus behind American Zoetrope; behind his infrequent filmmaking in the ’80s and ’90s (no one could tell him to make another Star Wars); and this is the source, more locally, of L’Affaire Greedo. Lucas was puzzled the fanboys didn’t understand that his ownership of that laser blast represented a victory for the artist. (By then, Lucas in the fanboy mind had become a suit.) But here, Star Wars is going over to the suits. Now, maybe Lucas has retained some kind of control over at least the movies he made. Dunno. That’s the thing I’d most like to ask him. After guarding his art like the Hovito idol, why would he let it go, even for $4 billion?

Now THAT is a good question.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:12 pm

Shanti418 wrote:
Now THAT is a good question.

I don't want to write the guy off or questions his motives, but when I heard the news and the charitable donations, the first thing that came to mind is terminal disease. The decision seemed very un-Lucus-like to me, and it got me thinking that his behavior was muck akin to many of the mega wealthy person who know they don't have much time left and give exorbitant amounts to charity.

Hope I'm wrong about that.

Post by **Best First** » Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:46 pm

that's the kind of pointless speculation that really gives pointless speculation it's name.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:26 am

Bill Gates and Warren Buffet both gave huge sums to charity and neither of them were dying.

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:11 am

And Lucas himself has done a lot of charity stuff in the past. He's got little film making mojo left but still has a big heart.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:45 pm

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-new ... rs-176258/

Called it...

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:50 am

You gotta be ****** kidding me? Somebody stop that runaway Mouse!

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:22 am

Disney absorbing Hasbro?!? Maybe we can get Disney Transformers! Or Marvel Transformers! Or Disney characters dressed like Star Wars characters! Or...oh my god...STAR WARS TRANSFORMERS!

What? All of that stuff already exists? Huh. Carry on then.

Wait! How about a team up between the Avengers and the Autobo... Done? Terrible?

Marvel Star Wars comi... 30 years ago, you say?

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:33 pm

But this could mean that Transformer comic rights would go back to Marvel, and we could finally see the conclusion of Furman's 80s run.... oh, wait, what? We already have that?

Maybe we could finally see the TF comics reprinted with Circuit Breaker and Death's Head... oh, wait, no we've got that.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:47 pm

Get this, right:

Transformers comic.

GUEST STARRING...

Spider-Man.

What?

Oh.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:25 pm

Brendocon wrote:Get this, right:

Transformers comic.

GUEST STARRING...

Spider-Man.

What?

Oh.

Did we ever have another comic book appearance of Gears?

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Tue Nov 06, 2012 5:10 pm

Shanti418 wrote:Did we ever have another comic book appearance of Gears?

In the UK comics he showed up in Dinobot Hunt! - in the US the Prime with the fake head in Prime Time! gunned him down along with most of the other first-season Autobots. Like most of the first-season Autobots he returned to watch Grimlock and Blaster fight on the moon in Totalled! and got killed by Starscream in Dark Star!.

There's no reason why he couldn't show up in RG1, assuming he wasn't too badly affected by Nucleon...