What is the most unbreakable (American) sports record?

Powermaster Optimus Prime · Post by **Powermaster Optimus Prime** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:28 pm

I was watching a countdown on TV, and it got me to thinking about which is the least likely to be broken? What do you think?

Sorry to you non-yankees, but I have a limited knowledge of soccer I mean football and all I know about cricket is that someone threw Jerry Seinfeld "a wicked googley."

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:24 pm

Favre and Russell will be hard, but they're still at least theoretically possible. Pitchers these days, however, will be lucky to get to 300 wins with the development of specialized bullpens.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:57 pm

The only american sport I know anything about is icehockey (I've tried watching the other sports though).

So I'm voting Gretzky (or maybe I wont vote since I know nothing about the other dudes).

Counting both Regular Season and Playoffs, Gretzky scored 3239 points.
Mark Messier, second on the list of "Most points ever", scored 2182 points.
Counting only the Regular Season Gretzky has 2857 points, and Messier 1887 points (plus: Messier played 1756 Regular Season games, Gretzky has 1487 Regular Season games)

"[Gretzky] is the only NHL player to total over 200 points in one season—a feat he accomplished four times"
81/82 - 212 points.
83/84 - 205 points.
84/85 - 208 points.
85/86 - 215 points.

Sidney Crosby scored 120 points during the 06/07 regular season (thus winning the Art Ross Trophy as the leagues top scorer).
Gretzky has fourteen seasons with 121 points or more.

The dude is just absurd.
He averaged 1.92 points per (Regular Season) game.
I think this is unbreakable (unless they drastically change the rules).

IronHide · Post by **IronHide** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:17 pm

Favre's and Ripkins are hard because its a f'ing ridiculous stat, but I think they're much more possible to get than Gretzky's.

'Wayne Gretzky. The only man I'd have sex with, Wayne Gretzky.'

Powermaster Optimus Prime · Post by **Powermaster Optimus Prime** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:49 pm

Shanti I think you're right. I'd be surprised if a pitcher ever racked up 300 again, forget about 511. Unless, of course, the Mets trade for or sign some young stud. Starting 2009 we will no longer use a bullpen. Complete games all around and a 4-man rotation.

Also, I think it is worth noting Oscar Robertson's season in which he AVERAGED a triple double... the only person ever to do it. I have to say it could be within reach though now that LeBron is entering his prime, which we should see 8 or so years of starting now. Can you believe he's 23 years old?

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:04 pm

You forgot the Red Sox's losing streak!

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:40 am

No tennis love here?

That pretty much all I follow right now.

You Brits need to start getting involved. I see you guys having the number one player in the world by the end of next year.

Yep. I'm calling it now. Andy Murray, barring injury, will be the number one player in the world by year's end.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:20 am

Tennis has no records that are percieved to be unbreakable, as far as I know.

I agree with the points about Gretzky, but I'm sticking with Cy Young.

Whereas the trend in baseball is specialization, the trend in hockey is towards speed and scoring.

So I can't see baseball in 50 years having more pitchers complete games, or having more starts in a year, I CAN see a future version of hockey where scoring has dramatically increased, and a total points record like The Great One's could fall.

Kind of like in baseball where 20 years ago, Maris's 61 or Hank Aaron's career HR records were also considered "unbreakable". *insert steroid joke here*

Re: Lebron and Oscar - Yep. That ALSO goes into the "used to be considered unbreakable, now not so sure" catagory, along with Jack Nicklaus's 18 major championships and Wilt's 100 (I NEVER thought I'd see someone get into the 80s like Kobe did).

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:28 am

consecutive games. the possibility of somthing outside the game injuring the player increases considerably.

saying that nothing is immposible as it's already been done before

Post by **Best First** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:51 am

being more clinically obese than anyone else on the planet doesn't get a look in?

for shame fatties, for shame.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:22 pm

Heeyo!!

The Last Autobot · Post by **The Last Autobot** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:14 pm

*Reading list

Only sport im interested there is Basket

So in Soccer there is any record we can say its unbreakable?

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:36 pm

Pelés 1100(?) goals?

stranger · Post by **stranger** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:32 pm

Senior Beckhams paycheck...

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:33 pm

Obfleur wrote:Pelés 1100(?) goals?

yup can't see that ever being broken.

if ronaldo eqalled last seasons scoring feat for 20 years he'd still be 260 short!!!

stranger · Post by **stranger** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:00 am

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:
Obfleur wrote:Pelés 1100(?) goals?
yup can't see that ever being broken.

if ronaldo eqalled last seasons scoring feat for 20 years he'd still be 260 short!!!

...in one of the most competitive leagues in the world. How many of Peles goals came against teams composing of non league standard footballers*?

Not to take anything away from Pele - he's still the second greatest footballer ever.

*Edit: In reference to his time in the States.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:36 pm

stranger wrote:
Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:
Obfleur wrote:Pelés 1100(?) goals?
yup can't see that ever being broken.

if ronaldo eqalled last seasons scoring feat for 20 years he'd still be 260 short!!!
...in one of the most competitive leagues in the world. How many of Peles goals came against teams composing of non league standard footballers*?

*Edit: In reference to his time in the States.

64 goals according to Wiki (37 league goals).

stranger · Post by **stranger** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:52 pm

I'm surprised that its as small a percentage if it is, but even so, I don't see how 64 goals is an american record (given the title of thread).

Regardless, I still don't believe his scoring record at Santos is as comparable to the modern game for so many reasons. Although, on reflection I'm sure Impactor Returns was just using it to highlight a point, rather than an outright comparison...

The Last Autobot · Post by **The Last Autobot** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:02 pm

stranger wrote:I'm surprised that its as small a percentage if it is, but even so, I don't see how 64 goals is an american record (given the title of thread).

Well Brazil is in "America" so his 1100 goals must also be in the list

stranger · Post by **stranger** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:08 pm

Indeed - it was just look at the list at the top you'd forgive me for assuming we were talking about "north america", or the USA.

My bad...

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:01 pm

Yeah. "North American Sports"

Relax dude. You sound so dramatic with your "..."

stranger · Post by **stranger** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:34 pm

Obfleur wrote:Yeah. "North American Sports"

Relax dude. You sound so dramatic with your "..."

Is there such a thing as a dramatic inverted comma?

Anyway - No drama intended - just got confused as to where the thread has got to and from where - probably my fault for skim reading.

Anyway - final word - Pele is no Dean Windass and you all know it. Ill throw in a "" for dramatic effect

Powermaster Optimus Prime · Post by **Powermaster Optimus Prime** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 10:19 pm

Yeah sorry about that, I was referring to North America.

There's seriously someone named Windass???

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:32 am

Favre

stranger · Post by **stranger** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:53 am

Powermaster Optimus Prime wrote:Yeah sorry about that, I was referring to North America.

There's seriously someone named Windass???

Seriously... I mean just reaching adulthood with a name like that has to be some kind of record.

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