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I AM SO ANGRY

Post by sprunkner » Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:59 am

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH GAY PEOPLE GETTING MARRIED????!!!!!!!
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Post by Brendocon » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:55 am

If God had wanted gay people to get married, he would have said so in the Bible.

Using the internet is also wrong for this same reason. You're all going to burn in hell.

Not me, though. Buddha's got my back.

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Post by Best First » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:23 am

sprunkner wrote:WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH GAY PEOPLE GETTING MARRIED????!!!!!!!
er because the, er sanctity of, er, marriage if like, a gay guy marries, like a gay guy then it makes marriage less special for like, you know, other people who are not gay and, er, want to be married.

Serioulsy, that is their arguement isn't it? Its nonsensical yet like creationism still has enough dipsh*ts lined up behind it that some people seem to give it credence.

When the truth is they are just bigots.
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Post by Professor Smooth » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:59 am

The Governor of California (a Republican) has all-but said this crap will not stand. I expect it to be overturned shortly. He also goes on to say that supporters of Gay Marriage should not to accept this defeat and to keep trying and trying until they get it done.

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Post by Shanti418 » Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:04 pm

Yeah, Arkansas I could understand, but California?

A lot of people claim its because of the heavy black and hispanic Obama turnout. They tend to be more socially conservative than your average Californian.

Anyway yeah, hopefully it'll be overturned.

I just think the term "gay marriage" is loaded. I DON'T think church organizations should be required by law to perform marriages for people they don't want to. If it was up to me, you'd have the government give everyone equal civil union rights, and then if you want to get "married" in a church, hey, that's between you and the church.
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Post by wideload » Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:08 am

I have no idea what is wrong with people, or how this even got put to a vote.

Putting something like this to a vote is NOT DEMOCRATIC.

This is an inaliable right. It is not something that can be voted away. There is a difference between a democracy and mob rule. In a democracy you are supposed to have a constitution that upholds people's rights NO MATTER WHAT. You cannot vote them away. That is mob rule....

Anyways, I am happy to be living in Canada.

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Post by spiderfrommars » Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:05 pm

i herd hes a arab?

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Post by Obfleur » Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:25 pm

Not only that - he's also a terrorist.
Can't believe I'm still here.

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Post by sprunkner » Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:09 pm

Ubterestubg... sorry, that's interesting article here about the myth of the gay-black divide. According to this, black people might be opposed religiously to gay marriage, but usually vote in favor of it based on their civil rights history.

http://socialistworker.org/2008/11/11/m ... gay-divide
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Post by Shanti418 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:07 am

Buth then the only theory we're left with as to why it happened is "The Mormons Did It," right?


While I have also seen articles taking the Socialist Worker's point of view, I'm not sure what I personally believe yet. I think the idea that African Americans operate as a monolithic voting bloc and are idealistic enough for them to vote for equal rights in all cases seems a bit too simple.


One thing I DO know however, is that generationally, Prop 8 failed by a wide margin with those under 40. So this may have been a defeat in battle, but the victor in the war is inevitable.

I also know that San Francisco, aka Homosexual City USA, had a 50% turnout rate as far as voting. Shame on you, SF!
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Post by sprunkner » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:33 pm

The Central Valley of California is really conservative, and quite heavily populated in some areas.

And yes, the Mormons did it, and I'm very ashamed of them.

But then again, Hound and Karl must be threatening my marriage RIGHT NOW.
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