What the **** is going on with Dev issue 4?

Post by **snarl** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:04 pm

anybody...?

Post by **Best First** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:56 pm

Nothing! IDW are great! Don't complain!

According to the IDW boards anyway.

Its pretty poor IMO - i don't mind the delays as much as i mind the lack of anyone popping up and saying "sorry there is going to be a delay due to printing errors/artist with man flu/Mephisto"

as it stands we now seem to be looking at 6 months or more between series and 6 weeks or more between some issues - it can't be any good for sales (which of course suggests there is a reason for it as its not in IDWs interest to delay so why not just tell us there is a problem).

Not a good start to the year from that perspective.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:20 pm

Yeah, I was hoping it would be in this week's shiplist, but alas no.

Bit dodgy when it's an issue where they've brought in a cover artist... it's not like they can blame Musso's schedule or anything.

Though, in theory, this means that within the space of two weeks we should get two issues of Devastation and the Blaster spotlight.

Can't see that happening, though.

BALLS.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:31 pm

Feh, I won't see it for weeks afterwards anyway

Oh and Besty, you still need to edit your IDW sig...you're linking to https://www.transfans.net instead of http://www.transfans.net

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:56 pm

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing.

I mean, it's the main TF title.

I would have to agree, there are problems afoot, but hopefully, they can be remedied. Clearly, they're having problems holding on to artists.

Post by **Best First** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:26 pm

Yaya wrote:Clearly, they're having problems holding on to artists.

er, that doesn't logically follow in any way. There has been no suggestion that they have 'lost' any artists.

Critcism that makes sense please.

Whatever issues they are having though they are compunding in terms of needlessly poor communication.

Ta MV.

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:32 pm

Didn't they lost Figueora? In theory, at least, as I believe he's still working for the company, but no longer on TFs.

On the upside, when Devastation #3 turns up later this week in mail, I'll finally be at the same page (

) the rest of you guys are.

Post by **Best First** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:42 pm

Ozz wrote:Didn't they lost Figueora? .

one artist does not a trend indicate.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:49 pm

Yeah, but Paramount had a clause in the contract saying that if Figueroa left, they could too.

... wait. No, that was HD-DVD.

I don't mind waiting three weeks for a comic if it means all the speech bubbles point to the right people... I just like to be told that I'll have to wait, rather than finding out through it being, well, self evident.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:44 pm

Best First wrote:
Ozz wrote:Didn't they lost Figueora? .
one artist does not a trend indicate.

I meant 'lost' as in off somewhere doing something else.

Figueroa-gone
E.J. Su- gone for now
Roche- gone to Who
Milne-crucified by TF fans

Which leaves the likes of Guido and Musso. Which is good, but when you only have two at your disposal, getting the books out on time really depends on them and their schedule.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:05 pm

Yaya wrote:E.J. Su- gone for now

Considering we've seen his cover for #5 and that issue is due for Jan with #6 in Feb, it's fair to assume he's back on duty.

Roche- gone to Who

Which is an IDW title, so he's not gone from IDW. Which is what you inferred.

Milne-crucified by TF fans

Yet drawing the Arcee Spotlight, so hardly run out of town. Yet.

Which leaves the likes of Guido and Musso.

Plus Marcelo Matere. Oh, and Emiliano Santalucia if he sticks around.

Which is good, but when you only have two at your disposal, getting the books out on time really depends on them and their schedule.

Despite the fact that we've just established we have five regular artists on the franchise, plus one debutant, and only currently two "main" TF titles now that the Ascending is done. One of which is scheduled to wrap soon.

Oh look, your argument just collapsed.

So, one more time with how EJ's paternity leave, Roche doing Who, Fig leaving, Guido covering the Ascending and Milne being crap explains why they're late publishing an issue drawn by Musso?

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:10 pm

Brendocon wrote: So, one more time with how EJ's paternity leave, Roche doing Who, Fig leaving, Guido covering the Ascending and Milne being crap explains why they're late publishing an issue drawn by Musso?

Maybe Musso is slow. Or having issues. Which leaves...

I stand by my theory, IDW is hard up for artists ON THE TF right now.

There's the big project. Somebodys got to be working on that.
There's the spotlights. Somebody has got to be working on Blaster and Arcee.
There's "The Thirteen" thing, etc. etc.

E.J.Su · Post by **E.J.Su** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:38 pm

As far as I know, all 6 issues are done. maybe it's the printing, but don't quote me on that though.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:39 pm

E.J.Su wrote:As far as I know, all 6 issues are done. maybe it's the printing, but don't quote me on that though.

See? See?

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:50 pm

Thanks Mr Su.

Yaya wrote:
E.J.Su wrote:As far as I know, all 6 issues are done. maybe it's the printing, but don't quote me on that though.
See? See?

Ah yes. I see how only having two spare pencillers explains why it's been delayed at the printers.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:53 pm

Brendocon wrote:
Yaya wrote:
E.J.Su wrote:As far as I know, all 6 issues are done. maybe it's the printing, but don't quote me on that though.
See? See?
Ah yes. I see how only having two spare pencillers explains why it's been delayed at the printers.

Hmmm...I was having trouble following the logic there too.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:39 pm

E.J.Su wrote:As far as I know, all 6 issues are done. maybe it's the printing, but don't quote me on that though.

I heard Chris Ryall made a deal with the devil to erase Megatron: Origin and the printers were retconned as a side effect.

How's the little one?

Post by **Best First** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:49 am

Metal Vendetta wrote:
Brendocon wrote:
Yaya wrote: See? See?
Ah yes. I see how only having two spare pencillers explains why it's been delayed at the printers.
Hmmm...I was having trouble following the logic there too.

i think that may be due to its absence. To be honest - i welcome this development, JaJa has been talking a reasonable amount of sense of late which made me uncomfortable - its good to have him back to spouting random sweeping statements that make no sense.

Thanks for the update EJ.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:18 pm

Best First wrote:
Metal Vendetta wrote:
Brendocon wrote: Ah yes. I see how only having two spare pencillers explains why it's been delayed at the printers.
Hmmm...I was having trouble following the logic there too.
i think that may be due to its absence. To be honest - i welcome this development, JaJa has been talking a reasonable amount of sense of late which made me uncomfortable - its good to have him back to spouting random sweeping statements that make no sense.

We mock what we don't understand.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:47 pm

Yaya wrote:We mock what we don't understand.

We mock those who don't understand. Get it right.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:51 pm

I mock pretty much everything.

Post by **Best First** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:01 pm

Yaya wrote: We mock what we don't understand.

you are right, pants talking is an alien concept to me.

E.J.Su · Post by **E.J.Su** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:00 pm

sprunkner wrote:How's the little one?

She is great, she has just turned over for the first time 2 days ago.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:18 pm

Awesome. I got a "dada" from mine the other day and it pretty much made for the greatest day ever.

It's all downhill from here, though... they roll over and pretty soon it's baby locks and constant floor vigilance.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:53 am

Metal Vendetta wrote:
Yaya wrote:We mock what we don't understand.

We mock those who don't understand. Get it right.

We mock those who don't get it right.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:28 am

However it's sliced, you end up getting mocked.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:41 am

Excuse me for being waaaaaay the f*** behind, but why did Fig leave and where did he go?

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:51 am

Shanti418 wrote:Excuse me for being waaaaaay the f*** behind, but why did Fig leave and where did he go?

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=159034

Ol Figster got bored, and left.

Post by **Best First** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:29 am

better to read the IDW topic with a bit more comment than just the interview:

http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=2794

Don & the idw editors provide some context - i'm not sure he has in fact left IDW, he's just off TFs for the forseeable and taking a break.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:40 pm

Due the 16th.

http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=3034

Nice to actually have some word on it.

In other news, Denyer's a corporate sell-out now.