Devastation Preview Art

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:02 pm

Ryall has posted some preview art from Devastation issues #3.4 & 5

Wow.

http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopi ... ght=#39104

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:33 pm

Aye. Looks like Ratchets done for now, dunnit'?

Post by **Best First** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:47 pm

reporduced for the lazy (i.e me)

Nick's issue 3:

Robby Musso's issue 4:

EJ's issue 4:

so basically i think the only hope for Ratchet is either a) faking his own death or b) Sixslut becomes aware that he other bots are all up and gunning and prioritises the bigger target realising he has buggered it up.

Think Musso's art suffers a bit by way of comparison above, maybe in part due to the fact its not inked? The other pieces are just brilliant.

Ratchet looks freaking cool in that shot. man i love Ratchet.

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:35 pm

They cant kill off Ratchet

Looks like Bumblebee takes a hit from Sixshot, hope he is ok too.... and Hardhead looks a goner too!

Roche's and E.J's work is incredible. Less keen on Musso...

Post by **Denyer** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:12 am

Best First wrote:Think Musso's art suffers a bit by way of comparison above, maybe in part due to the fact its not inked? The other pieces are just brilliant.

Looks like it is inked, he just leaves the light sources and shading with the colourist -- whereas the other two have the experience/confidence to direct by adding large areas of black.

Probably why the colours on Ramjet looked better than the Magnus ones -- Josh is very good with light sources.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:33 am

Musso's Jazz seems to be suffering from Dreamwave torso.

Post by **snarl** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:27 am

I Musso's stuff is still pretty good. I agree that it'd look better with proper inking though, and that Roche's and EJ's stuff looks fantabulous.

Oh, what about that Dinobot ********** on the IDW forum? Assemble the Transfans Police, we've got other board lynchings to do.

Post by **Denyer** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:58 pm

Seem to recall going through the motions the last time he turned up. Someone else's turn.

Brend wrote:Musso's Jazz seems to be suffering from Dreamwave torso.

He'd be better drawing and thinking about angles/light at the same time, as the other two do. Hopefully he'll make the transition.

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:54 pm

I love Hardhead's new Earth mode. Someone should do a Movie Wreckage kitbash...

Looks like Ryall took it seriously that Yaya and others didn't like EJ's art... but frankly, his posts make me reconsider if a chief editor posting at forums is a good thing...

Oh and all this talk about (Mrs.) Musso just makes me remember Parker Lewis.

Post by **Best First** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:32 pm

its got nothing to do with comments on EJs art - its about availability of the artist.

Post by **Denyer** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:42 pm

BB Shockwave wrote: frankly, his posts make me reconsider if a chief editor posting at forums is a good thing...

What? Are we reading the same conversation?

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:58 am

I haven't read the whole thread. I just read his reply, and he seemed to pretty much genuinely loose his cool (heck, revealing arts for an issue that's due in 4 months in advance pretty much shows this). It's not that I can't understand his reasons (I was pretty tired of people bashing EJ's art too, can't see much wrong with it), it's just I think it's a mistake on a professional level, because it will amount to more ***holes like the current one coming to the board running amuck in hopes of drawing Chris out to respond to their flaming personally. (there are people who think this 'attention' makes them cool, you know the type).

If I was Chris, I'd have let a mod deal with the flamers, and would have commented without the emotional outburst. But that's just me being unemotional...

Btw, noticed Simon made the first warning to a guy who ridiculed Scott on his blog? He's doing moderating pretty professionally so far.

Post by **Denyer** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:30 pm

Not seeing any emotional outburst there.

revealing arts for an issue that's due in 4 months in advance pretty much shows this

There aren't any big spoilers in the pages chosen, knock-on from the movie scheduling has affected other projects, and two issues have fill-in artists because of (relatively) unforeseen scheduling changes -- it seems sensible and a risk-free bit of promotion to put some art out there for people to comment on.

*shrug*

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:43 pm

Loving it - Megatrons head looks slightly too distended in that bottom pic tho but all cool.

Whos the con standing next to megs with a seeker body and tank tracks?

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:56 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:Whos the con standing next to megs with a seeker body and tank tracks?

Blitzwing.

Post by **snarl** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:57 am

BB Shockwave wrote: Btw, noticed Simon made the first warning to a guy who ridiculed Scott on his blog? He's doing moderating pretty professionally so far.

Scott's a ****.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:46 am

BB Shockwave wrote: Looks like Ryall took it seriously that Yaya and others didn't like EJ's art... but frankly, his posts make me reconsider if a chief editor posting at forums is a good thing...

As BF said, it had nothing to do with my comments on how I felt about E.J.'s work (which have never been overly negative, by the way).

Most people love E.J.'s stuff, so what you say doesn't really jive with reality. Ryall's not going to be dumb enough to place such decisions on the feelings of individual fans in the minority.

Personally though, looking at the above work, Nick's takes the prize, followed by E.J. and a far, far third, Musso's Pat Lee imitiation.

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:45 am

Well sorry then, I pretty much interpreted Ryall's post that he posted these to reassure EJ and protect his worker(s).

Agreed, Musso's art is too Pat-Lee-y to my liking as well. Nick is top-notch as always. EJ's robots still feel a bit... how to say it... Gundam-y to me. I mean, they are beautifully drawn and I like the way he exposes some wires/hydraulics here and there, like Wildman, and his TF faces are really emotional. I just feel when I look at his drawings that these are generic robots with vehicle parts on them, not TFs. I cannot really say why, but this was most prominent in Infiltration.

Post by **Best First** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:12 pm

i love Nicks stuff but EJ is ion a different league for me - his combo of technical skill, story telling, motion and conveyance of emotion blow me away.

Post by **Denyer** » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:05 pm

Roche has more of a handle on body language, which translates to very dynamic art, but that's because (in the tradition of most of the Marvel artists) he's presenting the characters as extremely human-like...

Su actually designs stuff mechanically, for the most part. We still have to assume that faces are probably a plastic polymer or type of metal with unlikely properties, but it's emphasised that these are robots. They wouldn't move exactly as we do.

Manchester Devil · Post by **Manchester Devil** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:23 am

Is it just me or does Ratchet's left arm look like it fell off once he pushed that button?

Post by **Best First** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:04 am

Denyer wrote: We still have to assume that faces are probably a plastic polymer or type of metal with unlikely properties

er, or we could not care quite that much?

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:46 am

An eagle-eyed viewer might be able to see the wires. A pedant, might be able to see the wires. But I think if you're looking at the wires you're ignoring the story. If you go to a puppet show you can see the wires. But it's about the puppets, it's not about the string. If you go to a Punch & Judy show and you're only watching the wires, you're a freak.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:43 pm

Best First wrote:
Denyer wrote: We still have to assume that faces are probably a plastic polymer or type of metal with unlikely properties
er, or we could not care quite that much?

Sorry Stu.

Post by **Denyer** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:03 pm

Brendocon wrote: if you're looking at the wires you're ignoring the story

Or the story lacks substance, or its presentation sucks...

There isn't anything new in fiction, only stuff that's new to the people watching/reading. The meta's at least as interesting and compelling when you've seen the story before in other forms.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:05 pm

Is the point, yes.

Note to self: don't quote things Denyer hasn't seen.

Post by **snarl** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:38 pm

Don't worry, I got it

Partly reminded by having just watched Boosh series 3 ep 1.

Post by **Denyer** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:57 pm

Darkplace was one of C4's more deservedly cancelled shows, judging by the half hour or so I caught...

Good intro sequence, though. Worth revisiting?

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:46 pm

Dark Place was quality

Post by **Denyer** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:00 am

Found on YouTube, and the trouble with Matthew Holness (much like Ricky Gervais, or even Chris Barrie at times) is that a character who's deliberately as likeable as basting your testicles in crushed nettles is still irritating...