Scientology and me

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Mon May 14, 2007 10:50 am

It's a Panorama programme on BBC 1 tonight but click on the video link to see a BBC reporter go totally apeshit:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6650545.stm

Hot Shot · Post by **Hot Shot** » Mon May 14, 2007 12:40 pm

He looks a hell of a lot like Skinner off of the X-Files when he's yelling.

I've got mixed feelings on this one. I'm not part of scientology and I do not agree with their religion, but I wouldn't have screamed my head off over it. Then again, I know how frustration can build up and explode into a nasty situation.

Well, best hopes to a peaceful resolution, I guess.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Mon May 14, 2007 12:41 pm

What a relief... when I saw the topic I thought you were joining.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Mon May 14, 2007 12:49 pm

shame really because supposedly the show does alot to undermines all of scientolagys complete and utter ******** it portrays as 'religon' - when its clearly a money making scheme.

Actually, I have no morals, pay me £100 and ill tell u a secret about how the world started.

Hot Shot · Post by **Hot Shot** » Mon May 14, 2007 12:52 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:Actually, I have no morals, pay me £100 and ill tell u a secret about how the world started.

I can do that too.*reaches for Bible*

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Mon May 14, 2007 12:57 pm

the bibles not true, but what I have to tell you is, because I erm say so, and it will cost you £100 to find out.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Mon May 14, 2007 1:02 pm

The problem is, no matter how good your point is, when you start shouting you go and spoil it.

Context is everything tho. He'd seen some upsetting ****, been spied on , etc.

Hot Shot · Post by **Hot Shot** » Mon May 14, 2007 1:02 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:the bibles not true, but what I have to tell you is, because I erm say so, and it will cost you £100 to find out.

I have better uses for over $100 american. Say, for instance, filling up my Alternator shelves. My Prime needs more than 6 bots to lead.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Mon May 14, 2007 1:09 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:The problem is, no matter how good your point is, when you start shouting you go and spoil it.

Context is everything tho. He'd seen some upsetting ****, been spied on , etc.

I agree, it is a shame he lost his rag, supposedly the exhibition he had just been show wound him up so much, he lost it.

I cant belive some people are so stupid to get involved. I feel sorry for D.Beckham, hes moving next door to tom cruise... has loads of money, oh dear.

Post by **Best First** » Mon May 14, 2007 1:17 pm

THIS IS WHAT THE SUPER ADVENTURE CLUB ACTUALLY BELIEVES.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Mon May 14, 2007 1:34 pm

FRUITY!

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Mon May 14, 2007 1:44 pm

Post by **Kaylee** » Mon May 14, 2007 1:47 pm

I've read some pretty lousy things about Scientology, far as I can glean the best that they get up to seems to be on the dodgy side of legal- let alone the worst.

There was an article on this in the Sunday Times, about how the interviewer and his team were allegedly stalked, spied upon etc. by the Scientologists because the cult were concerned about them portraying 'haters' (that is anyone with anything vaguely negative to say about the loon-bucket bunch of furniture worriers). Apparently his outburst comes right after he was invited to a presentation by the cult on the 'evils of psychiatry', which included many gruesome pictures and details of what psychology is actually all about (apparently) and why anyone in Scientology should make certain none of their family members ever seek help from it. He said he felt 'brainwashed' and just couldn't help getting angry.

Looking forward to this documentary tonight

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Mon May 14, 2007 1:57 pm

Yeah I read that, they show images of how shrinks used to put needles in eyes, u electro therapy etc... so essentially every shrink in the modern world now does this on the side, and they went to great lengths to show that this is how the Nazis shrinks used to behave...

so by the end of it, u hate all shrinks, and thus, when scientolagy has brain washed you, u will never go see a shrink for them to explain why your so ****** up, enforcing scientolagys lies.

Its simply amazing that people can make **** like this up.

Post by **snarl** » Mon May 14, 2007 8:07 pm

Not being funny, if you get involved with that lot you're probably already a **** anyway.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Mon May 14, 2007 11:54 pm

I will just come right out and say that I LOVE Scientology! It is exactly what the world needs. I want it to get more and more publicity. Anybody that has not been living in "multi-million dollar fantasy land" for the awhile understands that it's completely batshit looney. They all go "How the hell can anybody believe this?" This is a perfect point to ask "Aliens creating people is insane, but a giant sex-hating man in the sky is perfectly logical?"

Scientology will be the fall of religion.

divebomb · Post by **divebomb** » Tue May 15, 2007 12:32 am

I was nabbed off the streets of birmingham by a couple of their guys and given one of their stress tests which was wierd as fu<k!

It took me fifteen minutes to persuade them to let me leave their building

Hot Shot · Post by **Hot Shot** » Tue May 15, 2007 4:25 am

Professor Smooth wrote:I will just come right out and say that I LOVE Scientology! It is exactly what the world needs. I want it to get more and more publicity. Anybody that has not been living in "multi-million dollar fantasy land" for the awhile understands that it's completely batshit looney. They all go "How the hell can anybody believe this?" This is a perfect point to ask "Aliens creating people is insane, but a giant sex-hating man in the sky is perfectly logical?"

Scientology will be the fall of religion.

Religion will always be around whether you like it or not. I'm sure others here can back me up on that. One could even say that Scientology is a religion.

A "Giant sex-hating man in the sky" isn't logical, but God is. At least do your homework before you bash a major religion. God isn't a man, nor a giant, nor sex-hating. Not even in the sky. In my religion, God created Man in His image, therefore he isn't a man. God isn't in the sky. He's in Heaven. God doesn't hate sex, either. In Christianity, you can have sex when you are married, and only with your spouse.

I think you need to take a break from your Simpsons and X-Files dvd sets, Smooth.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Tue May 15, 2007 5:57 am

Hot Shot wrote:
Professor Smooth wrote:I will just come right out and say that I LOVE Scientology! It is exactly what the world needs. I want it to get more and more publicity. Anybody that has not been living in "multi-million dollar fantasy land" for the awhile understands that it's completely batshit looney. They all go "How the hell can anybody believe this?" This is a perfect point to ask "Aliens creating people is insane, but a giant sex-hating man in the sky is perfectly logical?"

Scientology will be the fall of religion.
Religion will always be around whether you like it or not. I'm sure others here can back me up on that. One could even say that Scientology is a religion.

A "Giant sex-hating man in the sky" isn't logical, but God is. At least do your homework before you bash a major religion. God isn't a man, nor a giant, nor sex-hating. Not even in the sky. In my religion, God created Man in His image, therefore he isn't a man. God isn't in the sky. He's in Heaven. God doesn't hate sex, either. In Christianity, you can have sex when you are married, and only with your spouse.

I think you need to take a break from your Simpsons and X-Files dvd sets, Smooth.

Do my homework? I have a Doctorate in Metaphysics. What credentials do you have on the subject?

Your God is rubbish. Far MORE rubbish than the Scientologists could ever hope to be. The invisible man, living in the sky/heaven etc, who watches everything you do every single second of every single day. The invisible man (and if he created men in his own image then he's either a man or a lousy artist) who has put forth 10 specific rules that you MUST follow. And if you break any of these specific rules then he will send to a place of fire and burning and torture where you will exist forever in unending pain and suffering. But he loves you.

He loves you and he needs money! Churches bring in more money, more tax-free money to boot, than most conglomorates. God is all powerful and he made men in his own image, but those that do his bidding just seem to be **** with money!

And look at what all that money gets them! They are able to convince the majority of Americans that the world is around 6,000 years old. They are able to enact laws that put people in jail for a decade over consensual fellacio. Do you think that kind of brainwashing comes cheap? The leader of your country, the President of the United States said, on national television, that God told him to invade Iraq. That is some phenominal ******** right there!

Have you read your Bible? You claim to be a Christian right? You're 14 years old, I imagine you have been literate for at least 11 of them. Have you read it? Cover to cover? Do you know about the unbelievably awful stuff that has been spouted out by the mouth of God? Did you read the part about the penalty for touching the skin of pig? Are you aware that it's the same penalty for working on Saturday? Care to guess? Death! Your book calls for anyone found working on Saturday to be dragged into the center of town and stoned to death.

But Jesus fixed all that, right? Jesus was kind and loving. He endorsed the [composite word including 'f*ck'] out of slavery though. He told slaves to know their place. That must have been somewhere around the part when he told his disciples to leave their familes and follow him. Good guy that Jesus, big on family values.

Getting back to the 6,000 year old planet thing. That's a doozy! I mean, what do you make of fossils? They are either absolute proof that the earth (and Universe, btw) are more than 6,000 years old or they suggest that God is basically screwing with people. And does that bother anybody else? The idea that GOOOOOOOOD might be ******* with us? Just running around burying fossils? He's a prankster God! You die, get up the pearly gates and Saint Peter says, "Did you think dinosaurs were real?" and you say "Well there was so much evidence..." BANG! Lake of fire! Giant flying lizards? How stupid would you have to be!

Given a choice between the God of Abraham and Xenu, alien overlord of Scientology, and none other, I think I'd go with Xenu. As far as I know, I don't think that he tells people to bomb hospitals, drag homosexuals behind their jeeps, and exploit women to their fullest.

Apologies to George Carlin and Bill Hicks, because, well you know...

wideload · Post by **wideload** » Tue May 15, 2007 6:26 am

For some reason I have a feeling we are not going to settle the debate about wether God exists or not on a transformers message board.....Maybe people can agree to disagree?

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Tue May 15, 2007 6:35 am

wideload wrote:For some reason I have a feeling we are not going to settle the debate about wether God exists or not on a transformers message board.....Maybe people can agree to disagree?

Fair enough. Why didn't I think of that before?

Post by **Best First** » Tue May 15, 2007 7:46 am

THIS IS WHAT THE SUPER ADVENTURE CLUB ACTUALLY BELIEVES

IronHide · Post by **IronHide** » Tue May 15, 2007 7:48 am

*yawn*

Post by **Best First** » Tue May 15, 2007 9:29 am

just to be clear, i think it needs to be pointed out that the statement "God is logical" is clearly bollocks.

Whether you believe or not.

If God was evidently logical there would be no concept of faith.

So i'd sugged not waving around such statements.

Post by **Kaylee** » Tue May 15, 2007 9:30 am

Urge to buy doctorate on ebay... rising...!

Scraplet · Post by **Scraplet** » Tue May 15, 2007 12:44 pm

Karl Lynch wrote:Urge to buy doctorate on ebay... rising...!

Karl, you just made me choke on a piece of apple!

Post by **Denyer** » Tue May 15, 2007 2:27 pm

Hot Shot wrote: A "Giant sex-hating man in the sky" isn't logical, but God is.

Go on then... how is God logical? And are we thinking of any God in particular out of the Hindu pantheon?

Anyone know where I can get a cheap Doctor of Journalism 'qualification' with a nice certificate, BTW?

Post by **Kaylee** » Tue May 15, 2007 2:29 pm

Denyer wrote:
Hot Shot wrote: A "Giant sex-hating man in the sky" isn't logical, but God is.
Go on then... how is God logical?

Anyone know where I can get a cheap Doctor of Journalism 'qualification' with a nice certificate, BTW?

Give Smooth some tippex and 10c to use a photocopier and I'm sure it could be arranged

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Tue May 15, 2007 2:56 pm

Denyer wrote:
Hot Shot wrote: A "Giant sex-hating man in the sky" isn't logical, but God is.
Go on then... how is God logical? And are we thinking of any God in particular out of the Hindu pantheon?

Anyone know where I can get a cheap Doctor of Journalism 'qualification' with a nice certificate, BTW?

Google it and be prepared to spend about 30 bucks.

wideload · Post by **wideload** » Tue May 15, 2007 8:00 pm

Denyer wrote:
Hot Shot wrote: A "Giant sex-hating man in the sky" isn't logical, but God is.
Go on then... how is God logical? And are we thinking of any God in particular out of the Hindu pantheon?

Anyone know where I can get a cheap Doctor of Journalism 'qualification' with a nice certificate, BTW?

Okay... There is nothing logical about God in the sense that God's existence can be proven scientifically or by connecting a series of facts.

In fact, that is why they call it faith.... logic/science can neither prove nor disprove God. The great thing about living in a true democracy is that you can either chose to believe in God or not and not everyone else is expected to believe the same.