Superman. Terminator. James Bond.

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Who would win?

Superman
5
36%
James Bond
7
50%
The Terminator
2
14%
 
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Superman. Terminator. James Bond.

Post by Metal Vendetta » Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:03 am

I recently picked up a copy of Jeremy Clarkson's book I Know You Got Soul (don't, incidentally) and at the end of the chapter where he muses on which spaceship has most "soul", out of the blue he confidently asserts that in a stand-off between 007, Supes and Arnie, the British superspy would be the clear winner. And at first I dismissed him out of hand, partially because of some of the xenophobic content of the previous chapters and partially because he also dismisses sci-fi fans broadly and disparagingly in this one, but then I got to thinking, what if he is right after all? The Terminator is easily disposed of with explosives and perhaps an industrial press or a big pool of molten metal, and Superman can't kill a human - both boons in Bond's favour.

So who rules the roost in this crossover rumble? And it goes without saying that Batman would whup them all...
I would have waited a ******* eternity for this!!!!
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Re: Superman. Terminator. James Bond.

Post by Obfleur » Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:09 am

Metal Vendetta wrote:The Terminator is easily disposed of with explosives and perhaps an industrial press or a big pool of molten metal,
So's Bond, dude :o
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Post by Legion » Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:54 am

Supes is a bit of a chump.
Bond would outsmart him.
Terminator, whilst nearly unstoppable by conventional means, is only a robot and can be destroyed by employing enough force.

Batman vs Bond would be much more of a challange.

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Post by spiderfrommars » Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:37 am

Superman has this one covered.

I still want to see Bond vs Bauer.

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Post by Batman » Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:44 am

Superman's a pansy. All you need do is out-think him. I've proven it myself.

I could take them all. Terminator, Bond, Bauer, even Dangermouse. Well, maybe not Dangermouse, but then who could?

I'm Batman. And I can kick your ass.
I'm Batman.

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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:22 pm

how is this even a poll when u have James Bond - U might aswell stick Batman in there and really kill it off! :lol:
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Post by Predabot » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:09 pm

I don't see how Superman could not win? :o

That power-source of his is mighty potent...

Bond might be tricky, but if it's Golden Age or [gasp!] Silver Age Superman he'll outsmart him in the end.

As for Terminator.. meh. He's beaten those nancy machines before, he can do it again. :oops:

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Post by Metal Vendetta » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:19 pm

I msut confess I'm struggling to picture quite how Bond would take down Superman - thoughts?
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Post by Brendocon » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:22 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote:I msut confess I'm struggling to picture quite how Bond would take down Superman - thoughts?
Kryptonite bullets?
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Post by Metal Vendetta » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:23 pm

Yeah, that would do it.

Or he could borrow Batman's kryptonite gauntlets and smack him into submission.

Superman's going down, whichever way.
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Post by Obfleur » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:27 pm

God, I hate Bond.
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Post by Brendocon » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:51 pm

Predabot wrote:I don't see how Superman could not win? :o

That power-source of his is mighty potent...
Yeah but stick him within a hundred yards of a lump of green rock and he's anybody's bitch.
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Post by spiderfrommars » Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:59 pm

Obfleur wrote:God, I hate Bond.
Have you seen Casino Royale?

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Post by Obfleur » Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:06 pm

No, I have not.
I've heard it's "Not so Bondish"?
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Post by spiderfrommars » Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:30 am

If you liked Bourne Identity and other recent thrillers you might like it.

Or maybe spy films just aren't your thing. :)

Daniel Craig has been nominated for a Best Actor BAFTA award for it, which goes to show we're not talking about just another Bond film here.

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Post by Obfleur » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:30 pm

I really liked Identity (but Supremacy was pure ****) :)

I guess I'll pick up the Bond DVD once it's released. If spidey recommends it, its gotta be good.
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Post by spiderfrommars » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:27 pm

Obfleur wrote:If spidey recommends it, its gotta be good.
Well, I don't know about that. ;)

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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:54 pm

Bond rocks - where as Bourne identity and toms MI series try to copy bond and miss out the 'cool factor' which is bond.
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Post by BB Shockwave » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:26 pm

Imagine a Bond movie where Lex Luthor is the villain! :)Or better yet, the president of the USA...

With some tech help from him, Bond'd easily kill Supes. Heck, even the Joker almost killed Supes a few times, and he's a guy with no super-powers except being crazy as a horse. Or worse.

Of course, in the end Lex'd kill off Bond with some timed poison capsule he drank in his Martini... :D

Terminator cannot even go close. Supes destroyed far thougher alien robots (Brainiac, his own Superman robots, Cyborg...) so a simple robot from the future (and without built-in weapons...) wouldn't stand a chance.

Bond'd have trouble dispatching a Terminator, though.
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Post by Metal Vendetta » Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:54 am

Kinda related, and utterly brilliant:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86ltDTU1R8A

Check out these guys' other films too - there are sequels to this one, and a whole load of other great stuff :)
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Post by Obfleur » Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:47 pm

I watched it at work (no sound) and it was totally brilliant.
Just watched it at home with sound - and now it's beyond brilliant :)
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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:57 pm

Bond rocks - yes?
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Post by wideload » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:38 am

Terminator wins this one hands down... he can travel through time and turn into liquid metal.

He travels to when bond is a toddler, at this point he is unable to operate complex spy devices or seduce women for top secret info. The terminator kills Bond.

He travels to where sups was a kid and before he got his powers. Kills the Kents, impersonates them (just to show he can... he is after all made of liquid metal...liquid metal), then the terminator kills Supes.

Without Sarah Conner or Arnie to protect them, both are sitting ducks. QED

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Post by Shanti418 » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:49 pm

Bond rocks, Bourne sucks.

But I don't see any way around the mathematical fact that Terminator<Bond<Superman
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Post by Brendocon » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:52 pm

wideload wrote:Terminator wins this one hands down... he can travel through time and turn into liquid metal.
No, she can't. :o
He travels to where sups was a kid and before he got his powers. Kills the Kents, impersonates them (just to show he can... he is after all made of liquid metal...liquid metal), then the terminator kills Supes.
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Post by wideload » Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:56 pm

R we talking about the terminator from terminator 3 then... She can still immitate people. Besides the point. A toddler aged bond is no match for her.

I did forget about supermans time travelling abilities though. Although there has been some debate over wether he simply needs to spin in a circle counterclockwise (a la 60s comics) or actually spin the Earth the wrong way ( a la superman movie). Superman would also need some kind of warning either from a wizard from the future or some computer operated by another superhero that detects some kind of temporal disturbance. Either way I think the terminator might be so dumbfounded at the retardedness of the science involved in that his brain would probably explode......

I officially change my answer to superman winning by spinning around like an idiot and traveling back in time to defend his child sefl or two travelling to the future to stop the terminators.

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Post by Predabot » Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:53 pm

He's already done the part where he travelled into the future to stop the Terminators, in Superman Vs Terminator.

He even terminated the entire Skynet, burning out all machinery on the planet. :o

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Post by Legion » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:50 am

there's been a superman vs terminator crossover?
damn ive missed that.

bet its not as good as the robocop vs terminator one tho, i liked that one, it actually almost made sense too! ;)

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Post by Obfleur » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:56 am

Sense schmense!
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Post by Legion » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:49 pm

Obfleur wrote:Sense schmense!
sense is much underrated or so i gather.

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