Preacher

Post by **Best First** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:51 pm

ok, i just finished rereading this from start to finish.

having done so i realy don't think there is a better advocate for the medium than this - its provocative, funny, creative, affactionate and just would not work anywhere near as well in any other form.

Watchmen is classic but nowhere near as evocastive for me, although Dark Night comes closer in the emotional stakes, but is less accessable for anyone not familiar with comics.

So if i were to try and conevrt someone to comics this is what i would hand them.

You?

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:46 pm

I agree totally. That's the strength of the comics medium: its ability to evocatively tell stories that otherwise would not be PC or mainstream or economically feasible to tell.

Movies can do it on the same level today, with CGI, but those cost millions of dollars. Here, an artist and a writer can do it for pennies on the dollar.

I definietly think Preacher is up there for me, although the ending was a biiiiiiitt wanky. Just a tad, though.

As for recommending it to other people...depends on the people, sadly. Some people wouldn't be able to look past the assfacing, morbidly obese Church figures, and fish/human copulation.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:58 pm

Watchmen and Preacher were what I recently used to get a mate into comics.

Love 'em both, but the former gets under my skin just a little bit more (the Black Freighter stuff is damn creepy). In fact its downright genius and is a comic as art.

Preacher's more like a good character driven actioner. With vampires. And its so funny. Never lets up. It made me go and watch Unforgiven for the first time which I'm grateful for.

I like them both a fair bit more than Dark Knight Returns.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:59 pm

Sandman and Preacher opened up a whole new world of comics to me.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:02 am

Preacher and Martha Washington for me.

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:37 am

For accessibility leading into a damn good comic, I think I'd have to agree on Preacher.

Preacher, Transmet and Hitman have done me proud in getting people reading comics over the years. We3 did well in that regard also.

DKR is after Watchmen for me by some way. I think I prefer 300. Still awesome though. The Batman things helps with the accessibility; I've met a few people who started reading comics with Arkham Asylum.

And then there's Sandman.

Post by **Best First** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:10 am

i need to give sandman another go - i got a bit put off it by the fact that all the people whi banged on about it at university were, what's teh word?

Tw*ts.

Looking back however i suspect this reflects on them and not the material though.

My problem with eatchmen is i find it clever and interesting but in some ways (to me) it doesn't have much heart. Its quite a cold cruel book and that doesn't really float my canoe.

i love DK, however much like Starwars i can't help but feel it is a tad tainted by its more recent incarnation.

I don't know much about Martha Washingtn?

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:58 am

Best First wrote:My problem with eatchmen is i find it clever and interesting but in some ways (to me) it doesn't have much heart. Its quite a cold cruel book and that doesn't really float my canoe.

Conversely, that's a big part of what I love about it. It's a book about a bunch of bastards, most of whom are seemingly convinced that everybody else is more bastardly than them, and therefore it's okay to be a bastard. So long as you're being a bastard for the good of the world.

Or that's part of what I drew from it anyway.

You're right, though. Very little in the way of positivity or upliftingness to it... which is kinda fitting considering the end.

Not read Preacher or DKR yet. They are both on my list of things to hit when I've actually got some money, though.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:17 pm

I've never tried, but I always assumed that DKR or Watchman would be less accessable to newcomers because in DKR's case, it's amplified by an understanding of the DCU, or at least the big 3, and in Watchman's case, it's amplified by an understanding and appreciation of the superhero genre in general.

I've also avoided Sandman, b/c of the aforementioned "T*at" factor. Although I read Endless nights, and that was good.

I've used Y: The Last Man to get two of my friends and my ex girlfriends into comic books.

Martha Washington is a dystopian political satire of America and American corporations, done by Frank Miller and Dave Gibbons. It was one of those books I remember reading about in a comic book magazine when I was a kid that I thought sounded awesome but I could never find, that now, thanks to the magic of Amazon and eBay, is easily accessible. It's like V for Vendetta, only through an American lens, with a Reaganesque President.