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Tom DeSanto on Transformers the Movie
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by Impactor returns 2.0 » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:32 pm
DeSanto: "Yeah. Whether you're doing a small-budget documentary or you're doing a big crazy Hollywood summer movie, it's about 'what's the story?' It's always about what is the journey and are people going to care - what's it about, you know, because with something like Transformers at the end of the day you get to create some cool effects and have cars transform and give you some real great trailer moments, but if you don't care about the characters, that's the key. That's why there's an X-Men 2 and an X-Men 3 or there's Empire Strikes Back or Return of the Jedi - because you care about the characters. You know, there's a lot of great visual-effects extravaganza movies that make a lot of money, but there's not a continuing story to tell, and that come through great characters."
hmm...

- its that whole not caring about the characters bit that worrys me most.
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by spiderfrommars » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:44 pm
I think he makes a very good point actually.
Of course the downside is an increased human element, but thats to be expected. I just hope as much effort goes into the TFs personalities.
Where's the quote from?
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by Scraplet » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:48 pm
Is Tom DeSanto working on the movie, or were these comments connected to something else?
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by spiderfrommars » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:54 pm
He's also a producer I believe.
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by spiderfrommars » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:23 pm
Ah, moving to news then...

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by Predabot » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:23 pm
Am I the only one that thinks he's talking about the actual Transformers-characters?
E.g Bumblebee.

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by Brendocon » Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:21 am
I'm kinda missing his point.
He seems to be saying "the key to a franchise is having characters you care about and a continuing story" but at the same time, he's saying that not caring about the characters is important.
Maybe it's just my pre-coffee early-morning brain that's not getting it...
Grrr. Argh.
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by Bouncelot » Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:57 pm
Brendocon wrote:I'm kinda missing his point.
He seems to be saying "the key to a franchise is having characters you care about and a continuing story" but at the same time, he's saying that not caring about the characters is important.
Maybe it's just my pre-coffee early-morning brain that's not getting it...
Maybe when he says
if you don't care about the characters, that's the key.
he meant to write
if you care about the characters, that's the key.
That would make it make sense.
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by Metal Vendetta » Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:07 am
Bouncelot wrote:Maybe when he says
if you don't care about the characters, that's the key.
he meant to write
if you care about the characters, that's the key.
That would make it make sense.
It should probably read:
if you...care about the characters, that's the key.
I would have waited a ******* eternity for this!!!!
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by BB Shockwave » Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:56 pm
or, "If you care about the key characters, that's the story"

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by sprunkner » Fri Nov 25, 2005 7:54 pm
Or, in the case of TFs, "If you key the character, that's not much of a story."
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by Shanti418 » Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:50 am
Or, in
this case, thank God they finally took out Arcee.
Move scribe Roberto Orci writes:
I hope that all those who hate Arcee will be gracious to those who love her. And to all those who wanted to see her, you should know the decision was not based on a mere dislike of the character, nor an attempt to defeminize the franchise. The decision is, at this point, story driven.
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by Best First » Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:25 am
yay.

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by Legion » Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:09 pm
story driven
those two words are very promising!
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by Impactor returns 2.0 » Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:13 pm
They mean 'money driven' - boys dont buy pink toys. but yeah, story driven
