Do you like President Bush?

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:43 pm

Just out of interest does anyone like Bush - I dont want to create a topic where everyone stick the boot in if you dont like him, but merely just a quick poll to find out.

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:23 pm

IS the poll connected with the title of the topic. Because I prefer a little Bush to shaved.....

Seriously. I hate the man. He is either a stupid, evil and purposely ignorant man who gets everything he wants and thats more money and power or a dumb, narrow minded and ignorant man who is utterly blind to the ways of the world and lets some very evil people use his presendency to get more powerful because they are his friends.

Either way he is a bad president and I hope for Clinton for 2008.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:38 pm

The only people he appears to help are the oil companies, the weapons companies and the super-rich. The needs of everyone else seem to fall outside his remit.

I don't really hate Bush as an individual. I just feel sad that people voted for him.

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:48 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote:
I don't really hate Bush as an individual. I just feel sad that people voted for him.

I feel sad people voted for him twice.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:06 pm

Its a telling poll that about 15 ppl have voted but 50 ppl have viewed the topic...

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:08 pm

I've looked at this thread at least five times - so it's more like 45

I just voted for "Dont know".

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:13 pm

Obfleur wrote:I've looked at this thread at least five times - so it's more like 45
I just voted for "Dont know".

thats interesting it itself as there are not to many 50/50 feelings when u talk to ppl, they either back Bush or not.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:00 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:
Obfleur wrote:I've looked at this thread at least five times - so it's more like 45
I just voted for "Dont know".
thats interesting it itself as there are not to many 50/50 feelings when u talk to ppl, they either back Bush or not.

Well, I've only heard of all the bad stuff he's been doing - and I dont know if thats because A) He only does bad stuff. B) People dont talk about the good stuff he does, because people hate him.

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:12 pm

Obfleur wrote:
Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:
Obfleur wrote:I've looked at this thread at least five times - so it's more like 45
I just voted for "Dont know".
thats interesting it itself as there are not to many 50/50 feelings when u talk to ppl, they either back Bush or not.
Well, I've only heard of all the bad stuff he's been doing - and I dont know if thats because A) He only does bad stuff. B) People dont talk about the good stuff he does, because people hate him.

do you think that c)people hate his because he only does bad stuff?

honestly, i can't recall the last thing i heard that he did that i thought "oh, that's a good call"... admittedly, a lot of the media i ingest tends to be playing on his "bad" side, but still...

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:07 pm

Legion wrote:
Obfleur wrote:
Impactor returns 2.0 wrote: thats interesting it itself as there are not to many 50/50 feelings when u talk to ppl, they either back Bush or not.
Well, I've only heard of all the bad stuff he's been doing - and I dont know if thats because A) He only does bad stuff. B) People dont talk about the good stuff he does, because people hate him.
do you think that c)people hate his because he only does bad stuff?

Well yeah. But I am not interested in politics, I never read the news paper - so the only information I get about Bush is basically from Transfans.
And everybody here hates him.
And since everyone hates him, theres noone here to defend him/tell me if he has done anything good - thus I "only get one side of the argument", and I dont want to base my.. oh ****, snakes on a plane!

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:04 pm

Obfleur wrote:oh ****, snakes on a plane!

good point, well made! couldnt have put it better myself!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:12 pm

Jetfire wrote:
Metal Vendetta wrote:
I don't really hate Bush as an individual. I just feel sad that people voted for him.
I feel sad people voted for him twice.

And 4 years later, they voted for him again.

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:11 am

Rebis wrote:
Jetfire wrote:
Metal Vendetta wrote:
I don't really hate Bush as an individual. I just feel sad that people voted for him.
I feel sad people voted for him twice.
And 4 years later, they voted for him again.

Anybody watch Simpsons series 6 with that episode "Sideshow Bob Roberts"?

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:59 pm

No. I don't like him.

Cause he talks funny and his hat looks like rubbish.

Oh, and that thing with starting several wars, and whining about that the UN should be scrapped...

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:19 pm

Jetfire wrote:
Rebis wrote:
Jetfire wrote: I feel sad people voted for him twice.
And 4 years later, they voted for him again.

Anybody watch Simpsons series 6 with that episode "Sideshow Bob Roberts"?

Was it where Homer doesn't go to vote?

"Marge, you honestly think my vote counts?"

-Newsreader: "Bob was elected with one vote"

Homer: "D'oh!"

Seriously. Bush must have done some good things for americans, otherwise why would they re-elect him? But me, from here in Central Europe only see the way he handles foreign affairs, which he does pretty much like a Paladin with an intelligence score of 6 (to speak in AD&D). "We'll hunt down the evildoers and punish them for their evildoings". Bah.

of course, as Monty Python already put it in 1971, "the general public ARE idiots"-

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:44 pm

Bush has done nothing but harm every person in the US who's not (what I would call) incredibly wealthy. If you don't clear at least a few million dollars per year, you've been taken for a ride. Why do people vote for him? Because the voting public in this country is polarized to a degree that I find myself unable to express at the moment. It no longer matters what a politician's stance on the issues are. The only things that matter are what party their running on, and apparently, what their faith is.

You will not find a supporter of President Bush who is not:
a) wealthy
b) religious
c) ignorant

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:12 pm

Professor Smooth wrote:
You will not find a supporter of President Bush who is not:
a) wealthy
b) religious
c) ignorant

I think you'll find at least one.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:14 pm

Jetfire wrote:
Professor Smooth wrote:
You will not find a supporter of President Bush who is not:
a) wealthy
b) religious
c) ignorant
I think you'll find at least one.

Please explain.

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:23 pm

I bet that out of 6 billion people there is at least 1 person in the world who is a Bush supporter and isn't wealthy, religious and ignorant.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:04 pm

Hmmm....

Wealthy: Most definitely so. It's like Gore in 2000, speaking about how Dubya's proposed tax cuts would go only to the top percentile of people. It didn't resonate with voters because A) a lot of people think THEY'RE in the top percentile of people, B) If they're not, they plan on being so at some point in their lives, and they'd like lax taxes when they get there, and C) Conservative/Protestant/Capitalist frames say that wealthy people are such solely based on their strength of moral character and ability, so why SHOULD they be punished? They're the best our society has to offer!

Religious: Clearly not all Bush supporters are religious, but fiscal conservatives can't be the biggest Bush supporters, because Bush is about as far away from fiscal conservatism as you can get. Can you be a not so religious person and support Bush? Certainly, just as you could opposed gay marriage and/or abortion on non religious grounds. It's just not the most popular way.

Ignorant: Well, we're all ignorant of something. I would hasten to say the majority of Americans don't know that the US funded Turkish atrocities against the Kurds in 1999, at the NATO was bombing Serbia to fight "ethnic cleansing". Most Americans don't know that the Japanese find our use of the term "Ground Zero" to describe the WTC site extremely offensive and flippant. Seriously, ignorance is measured in degrees.

So in conclusion, can there be a Bush supporters who isn't wealthy, religious and ignorant? Sure. Can there be a Bush supporter who isn't wealthy, religious, OR ignorant? Not so sure.

I'm poor, godless, and all knowing, and I don't like 'em, so there you go.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:22 am

^this

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Everyone has to do this.

Go to google, type in failure and instead of clicking the normal search, click the I'm Feeling Lucky one.

Its the greatest.

Oh, and this is completely on topic with President Bush

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:35 am

ha ha ha that's great.

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