How good is X-2?

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How good is X-2?

It's so good, I didn't even notice that my pants were actually on fire!
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Cyclops got owned. X-2 is UltraGood!
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It was okey (I loved that Cyclops didn't get much screentime though).
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Cyclops ruined the whole thing.
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6%
 
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How good is X-2?

Post by Obfleur » Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:05 pm

I just saw the movie (last time I saw it was last year).
I think it's great.
I don't think I thought of it much the first time I saw it, but there's really not much action if you compare it to other actionmovies (or am I just talking out of my arse?).
It's more storydriven than actiondriven (if you can say that in english), even though it has it's fair share of action.
Lovely movie.

How much of the X-movies are true to the comics/cartoon though?

1. I thought mutations were "one of a kind". Wolverine and Yuriko Oyama (?) has the same kind of mutation (Ultrahealing or whatever you call it).
2. Strykers son, and his relationship to Xavier, Did this happen in the comic?
3. Strykers and Wolverines relationship?
4. Pyro "switching sides"?

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Post by Dylan » Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:15 pm

I like this movie. A lot.

And Cykes isn't that bad. He's just a prick. The world's full of 'em, there was bound to be a genetically superior prick out there.



edit: I'm actually not aware of the word's weight in the english language. Is it weak enough? Else I'll edit it.

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Post by Obfleur » Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:26 pm

I don't think he's a prick. I think he's a wimp. And he's boring :(

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Re: How good is X-2?

Post by Ozz » Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:27 pm

:)

I like that movie much. It's better than first part, has more plot.The action scenes are cool, especially Nightcrawler vs. president's bodyguards.

Good thing is, that having so many characters to choose, we don't have 50 mutants running constantly on screen. Movie is focused on few of them, others are put as neat cameos. We have new main characters, but they kinda replace old ones from first movie, so we don't get to many of them.
Obfleur wrote:1. I thought mutations were "one of a kind". Wolverine and Yuriko Oyama (?) has the same kind of mutation (Ultrahealing or whatever you call it).
I never heard why mutations should 'one of a kind', as you put it. There is more that one telepath in X-world, isn't it? :)
Obfleur wrote:2. Strykers son, and his relationship to Xavier, Did this happen in the comic?"?
X-2 is based loosely on graphic novel entitled 'God Loves, Man Kills'. In that comic, William Stryker is a reverend, and a very popular TV preacher. He once had a wife, but after she gave birth to a mutant-child, he killed them both. Then decided that mutants are unholy creatures and should be eliminated in the name of high and mighty Lord yadda yadda...
There was no earlier relationship with Xavier, he met him during the story.
Obfleur wrote:3. Strykers and Wolverines relationship?"?
I don't think so.
Obfleur wrote:4. Pyro "switching sides"?
Pyro's first appearance was as an enemy of X-Men. I don't know about him ever being on good side. Not that I read that much X-Men comics.
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Re: How good is X-2?

Post by Obfleur » Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:35 pm

Ozz wrote::)

I like that movie much. It's better than first part, has more plot.The action scenes are cool, especially Nightcrawler vs. president's bodyguards.

Good thing is, that having so many characters to choose, we don't have 50 mutants running constantly on screen. Movie is focused on few of them, others are put as neat cameos. We have new main characters, but they kinda replace old ones from first movie, so we don't get to many of them.
I agree a 100% :)
Ozz wrote: There is more that one telepath in X-world, isn't it?
I know nothing about the X-World. That's why I asked.

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Post by Denyer » Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:48 pm

You can assume everyone gets limited invulnerability, strength and healing factor enhancements unless it's critical to the plot... Wolverine and Sabretooth are at fairly similar power levels, though.

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Post by Master_Fwiffo » Tue Jul 06, 2004 12:09 am

Theres no 'Pretty good' option, so I had to pick 'It was Ok'.

Rather fun comic film, and much better than that choking awful Spider-Man (though I sill have hopes for the sequal)
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Post by IronHide » Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:23 am

Why is there no "It was a travesty and sucks harder than it blows" space?

Honestly.....

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Post by Obfleur » Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:54 am

IronHide wrote:Why is there no "It was a travesty and sucks harder than it blows" space?
Because this is a Happy-thread.

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Post by Dylan » Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:39 am

And we need more Happy-threads! :) :)

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Post by KingMob » Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:37 am

And X2 made me Happy. :)

oooh, X-questions and I'm a comic geek.....it's like John Leslie and a room full of hookers.

1) Mutations are definetly not unique. There are several extremely common mutations (usually ones that are dramatically or thematically useful of course, like super-strength, endurance, telepathy or ugliness. Also, super-healing has been making a strong showing recently.) which I suppose is part of the whole supposed evolution theory.

2) No, as Ozz said. Also, Stryker's kid, Jason 143, is based upon the character of Jason Wyngarde AKA Mastermind, who had no familial relationship to the original Stryker and no relationship to Prof X, either.

3) Made up for the movie. However I believe a 'Stryker' character was introduced into the Wolverine comics after the movie. It may have been in Ultimate X-Men, I don't really know or care to be honest.

4) Pyro is a villlain and always has been. And he's also been dead for a few years as well. He did have a connection to Mystique's group when they were employed by the government, but I think he was off on the sidelines at that point.


I happen to like Cyclops, but understand why he gets a lot of stick. Probably the best portrayal of Cyclops is in New X-Men.
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Post by Blacksword » Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:23 pm

The 'Stryker Character' in Ultimate X-Men was a rather unsavoury officer by the name of Col. John Wraith. The two have nothing in common aside from providing a face for the Weapon X program in their respective new continuities. In the Main Marvel Universe I don't belive there was ever one person identified as being the person behind Weapon X (or Weapon Plus by it's Morrison name), though there was a scientist who was in charge of the part of the program that gave Wolverine his bones.
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Post by Ozz » Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:48 am

I forgot to ask, and it was always bugging me: was that kid who changed the TV channels whith a blink of his eye ever in comics? If yes, does ha have some codename?

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Post by Obfleur » Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:54 am

Ozz wrote: If yes, does ha have some codename?
Yeah, it's "Remote controll".

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Post by Ozz » Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:18 am

:o

Smartass...

Erm...

Hmmm...

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Post by Brendocon » Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:20 am

:o

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Post by Obfleur » Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:43 am

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