The World's Greatest Democracy

Post by **Best First** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:17 am

http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange ... 46,00.html

Mother ****ing ***!

George Bush should be killed. A lot.

And the rest of these ****s. Screw terrorism (booga booga!), these morons are the real threat.

Post by **Kaylee** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:12 am

It's painful. Not that it justifies it to any degree, but AFAIK the US President is essentially a puppet to big industry anyway most of the time. They're often the ones who fund campaigns and have a huge level of influence. Money talks I suppose.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:17 am

Damn money. It seems to be the be-all and end-all these days. I was only thinking this yesterday, so this is a surprise to find this topic that kind of reflects that.
As for Bush, didn't he (or was it Bush Snr) have links to the Bin Ladens too? Despite his 'moron' image, I just don't trust Bush - or ANY politicians, really - to do the right thing for their country - which is the point of their position, isn't it?

Post by **Kaylee** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:25 am

That's just it- bush isn't a moron. He might not be an effective leader in many respects, but that doesn't mean he's not cunning and devious.

His attitude to homosexuals for example.

Many think he's just an ignorant homophobe. He isn't.

People who've workeed closely with him have reported that Bush does't care about us- neither for nor against. We're so utterly insignificant we don't even appear on his radar.

To him all we are is an issue which wins voters. Kick us a bit and the religious right starts hailing victories for common sense.

He's very devious and very very bad imo.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:44 am

I know where you're coming from - I did write it was 'moron' IMAGE. It probably makes people underestimate him alot.
Although, to be not bothered either way about a chunk of the country is a bit dumb on his part - gay people still vote (unless he stops that

).

Post by **Best First** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:47 pm

When i say moron i mean in the sense that if you prioritise retaining power over not ****ing up the planet you are an idiot.

I am sure he has aspects of intelect but he lacks, you know, the complete package.

Perhaps a better term would have been c***.

Post by **Kaylee** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:50 pm

I know where you're coming from - I did write it was 'moron' IMAGE. It probably makes people underestimate him alot.
Although, to be not bothered either way about a chunk of the country is a bit dumb on his part - gay people still vote (unless he stops that Rolling Eyes ).

Salright sweets, I picked up on your wording I was backing you up ^_^ You're quite right that he is nowhere near as dumb as he looks.

The merging of the Republican party with the Right and Religious right was an absolutely brilliant move. Enough people all together who, if thrown enough of the right sort of attitudes and token gestures, will happily queue up to vote for you, hopefully giving you the edge over the other lot.

Long as the Republicans keep mentioning 'God' at difficult moments, don't ban handguns and continue to stand up for attitudes which really went past their sell-by date in the 70s I think they will continue to garner support.

Vast tracts of the US aren't populated by Religious nut-jobs, but most people there are Christian and they also feel comfortable having what they seen as the status quo reinforced as the right thing to do- i.e. gay rights should be curtailed, foreigners are to be mistrusted, the US is something everyone should always be proud of, the government will always do the right thing.

All this leaves the Democrats, with their base of left-wingers, progressivists and homosexuals, trying to think of a way of appealing to these people without sounding like left-wing extremists or incompetant governors. Something like the exact opposite of what the Conservative party face here in the UK, but with a far narrower gap between the two in terms of votes.

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:33 pm

Best First wrote:George Bush should be killed. A lot.

And then some.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:38 pm

Just how dumb (or should that be bigotted?) are these people that vote for Bush? It's no way to run a country - but always ends up that way.

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:41 pm

its ******* disgusting...

Post by **Kaylee** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:49 pm

I think a big part of it is people try to work on the principle of utilitarianism, i.e. which leader brings the least amount of suffering?

Like that Simpsons ep where sideshow bob runs for mayor?

"Well he did frame me... but I'm aching for that upper class tax break!"
"I don't agree with his Bart killing policy, but I do agree with his Selma killing policy!"

I think it's literally something like that.

"Well he did lie to us over Iraq, but Iraq is now a democracy!
I don't agree with his stance on homosexuality, but I'm pleased with my $300 tax refund!
I disagree with his views on stem cell research, but he's done well securing the future of our oil industry (by invading Iraq)" etc. etc.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:51 pm

Unfortunately, no-one gets to power by not pandering to these people. I'd love to be a politician and try and correct these errors, but the people behind the scenes who make a lot of money from Bush etc would conspire against me so they can get their cash-cow back.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:20 pm

Best First wrote:When i say moron i mean in the sense that if you prioritise retaining power over not ****ing up the planet you are an idiot.

See, but here's the messed up thing: you have to look at it from his point of view. And his point of view as an evangelical Christian is, "God created Earth for man to use, so for us NOT to rape its resources would be going against God's desires. Armageddon WILL happen, so the concept of "conserving or preserving" is ridiculous and unnessecary, as we'll all be in God's Kingdom by the time that stuff becomes a factor."

Seriously. It's more screwed up here then you guys could ever imagine. If the world were a car where the US has been in the driver's seat since WWII, I would please implore for someone to take the keys away from us and go sit in the back for awhile, because we've lost it.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:47 pm

To paraphrase Get Your War On:

"Who cares if we **** up the world, it's only, like 800 years old, right?"

****ing Christian monkeys

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:59 pm

Bush is a c##t.

This is the 1050th bit of information which confirms it.

Earth is going to hell, in part due to this selfish, ignorant, stupid, narrow minded, power grubbing, arrogant wanker and the most ignorant voters in the entire universe.

Clinton for 2008.

That is all.

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:27 pm

Go [composite word including 'f*ck'] yourself Bush! Yay!

*Drops pom-poms and starts to dance.*

*Stops and realizes he was holding pom-poms.*

*Leaves.*

Nebbie · Post by **Nebbie** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:59 pm

*whacks head repeatedly on desk*

Karly, is that room for rent still open?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:01 pm

Heard on the radio that Bush claimed the US spends more on climatic research than anywhere else.

Yeah, but George, I don't think big fat wads of pay-off to make leading scientists in their fields say "Global Warming is a load of crock! Here's some ice cubes I made earlier!" counts, really.

Oh, and Bush==Palpatine, only he's not as good at acting.

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:02 pm

Rebis wrote:Oh, and Bush==Palpatine, only he's not as good at acting.

And he can't wield a light-saber as expertly.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:16 pm

Señior's Covenant wrote:
Rebis wrote:Oh, and Bush==Palpatine, only he's not as good at acting.
And he can't wield a light-saber as expertly.

Or support himself when standing on the dais.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:25 pm

Shanti418 wrote:we'll all be in God's Kingdom by the time that stuff becomes a factor

Not ALL of us.

I don't believe in it. Still, at least that means I won't go to Hell either.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:16 am

Well, Bush doesn't care about you, then, you HEATHEN!!!!

Post by **Best First** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:36 am

Jetfire wrote:Bush is a c##t.

This is the 1050th bit of information which confirms it.

Earth is going to hell, in part due to this selfish, ignorant, stupid, narrow minded, power grubbing, arrogant wanker and the most ignorant voters in the entire universe.

Clinton for 2008.

That is all.

Yeah, that'll make a huge difference.

"I believe the puppet on the left is more in line with my opinions..."

Post by **Kaylee** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:32 am

Puppet?

Vote Balok for USA 2008!

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:25 pm

Clinton in 2008 will stop the bleeding.

Get rid of corporations running the government, turn our country back from an oligarchy to a democracy, spend more money on schools and health care than bombs and missiles?

That's going to take a revolution.

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:45 pm

Shanti418 wrote:Well, Bush doesn't care about you, then, you HEATHEN!!!!

Yeah, Bush doesn't, but it's namely because Autobloke doesn't have enough oil for him to take interest.

...yet.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:57 pm

Señior's Covenant wrote:Autobloke doesn't have enough oil for him to take interest.

...yet.

I'm working on it, but I only get a tablespoonfull each time.
I'll be glad when all the oil runs out, then those billionare arabs who spend millions on jewel-encrusted butt-wipers and rediculously tall buildings will be less annoying.

wideload · Post by **wideload** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:43 am

Best First wrote: Yeah, that'll make a huge difference.

"I believe the puppet on the left is more in line with my opinions..."

unfortunately that pretty much sums up the problem in a lot of places

IronHide · Post by **IronHide** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:08 am

Jetfire wrote:
Clinton for 2008.

You're off your f'in wheel if you think that Hillary is anywhere near a sound candidate. I'd glady re-elect Bush then have that in the office.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:26 am

Don't worry, I think he meant GEORGE Clinton.

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