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Post by saysadie » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:17 pm

I think her part was technically supposed to be done before they went in... and they needed the extra bod inside?

I can't rightly remember, it's been a couple of weeks.
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Post by bumblemusprime » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:43 pm

saysadie wrote:I think her part was technically supposed to be done before they went in... and they needed the extra bod inside?

I can't rightly remember, it's been a couple of weeks.
I read this out of context and tried to make a dirty joke. All I could get was vague images of robots on an operating table.

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Post by Guest » Mon Aug 09, 2010 11:19 pm

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saysadie wrote:I think her part was technically supposed to be done before they went in... and they needed the extra bod inside?

I can't rightly remember, it's been a couple of weeks.
I read this out of context and tried to make a dirty joke. All I could get was vague images of robots on an operating table.

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Post by Obfleur » Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:08 am

saysadie wrote:I think her part was technically supposed to be done before they went in... and they needed the extra bod inside?

I can't rightly remember, it's been a couple of weeks.
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If I remember correctly she wasn't the one who "built" any of those levels (Leo did, right?).
And she didn't exactly do anything in there. She wasn't responsible for any of the kicks, she didn't carry a gun, she didn't have any special information, etc... She kissed Joseph Gordon-Levitt (or he kissed her), but does that really count? It's not like that kiss was part of the plan or anything.

She did manage to sell a few tickets to Juno-fans though!
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Post by Brendocon » Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:16 pm

Obfleur wrote:If I remember correctly she wasn't the one who "built" any of those levels (Leo did, right?).
Opposite. Her job was to design the levels. Leo couldn't do it because if he knew the layout, then so would the murderous projection of his dead wife. Ergo he needs somebody else to do it for him. He won't let her tell him the layout, and when he finds out about the shortcut in the snowbase, Moll uses it to follow Murphy.

She's also an exposition cipher. Explaining how it all works to her (so she could do the job) does the job of explaining it to the audience.

The reason she went in to the dream was basically to keep an eye on him, what with her extra knowledge of how ******* unstable his mind is. And obviously give an excuse for further exposition whilst necessary.

My main gripe with her was the character being called Ariadne. Snapped me out of it a bit.

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Post by Shanti418 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:52 pm

Yaya wrote: Inception is a ******* masterpiece. That's all there is to it. I saw it again, and the number of ways this movie can be interpreted is genius, IMO. The more I think about it, the more I like it, which is very rare these days.

So yeah, Ill say it again. One of the greatest movies of the past decade and Nolan's best film yet. And I might just say it again just to incur a condescending comment by BF about my patronizing stance in the matter. Wait for it....wait for it....

And The Dark Knight is one of the most overrated movies in history. Batman Begins was better.
I think the problem that BF or anyone else has in the matter is not your hyperbolic opinions, which are distracting (but at this point predictable), but the idea that your explanation of why Inception is the best movie of the decade is the above paragraph, which could be shortened by saying "Why is Inception a masterpiece? Because it's great."

When it comes down to it, I'm not sure I could say the cinematic trippiness was heads above Memento. I'm not sure I could say the twist ending (if you want to call it that) was above The Prestige, and I'm sure the examination of obsession was not heads above The Prestige or TDK.

Granted, I'll give Inception marks for having all of these in significant amounts, and being a better rounded movie, but in terms of a mind f*** movie, I still enjoyed the aforementioned Memento and Prestige more, and in terms of heist flicks, I think the Ocean's movies were more interesting (although admittedly, it didn't have its c**k stuck in The Matrix like Inception, so it's not as flashy). And that's not even getting into things like The Departed. City of God. No Country for Old Men. LOTR. It's a great movie. Nolan's best? Arguably, but I disagree. Decade's best? Now you're dreaming.

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Post by saysadie » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:51 pm

I'd say it was a good movie. It wasn't great, but it was good. On the higher end of "good". The scene where Arthur was supposed to do a bunch of stuff in three minutes while floating about in zero gravity annoyed me- it still doesn't seem possible that he could have done all of that (what was it... secure his floating buddies, take them to the elevator and set off a bunch of charges to get the elevator moving in addition to fight off two/three bad guys, right?) in the time he had.

It was definitely heads above what I've seen come out recently, however. Though I've just recently re-watched WALL-E and I still say that was better.
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Post by snarl » Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:05 pm

I thought Inception was ******* brilliant.

Sussudio and Land of Confusion are both also good things.
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Post by Yaya » Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:22 pm

I said one of the best movies of the decade.

I'm sure there were better one's, but I'd have to have a list in front of me with all the past decades movies

Certainly, the LOTR were better, probably the best of the decade. Probably some Pixar flicks were better. Yeah, the Prestige is up there, but I still like Inception better.

The Dark Knight? No way. Not even in the same league.
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Post by snarl » Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:19 pm

Wait, did you just say the Prestige is better than Dark Knight?

Behave son.

The Soundtrack for Inception is effing good too.
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Post by inflatable dalek » Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:53 am

I saw half an hour of Avatar on my brother's fancy pants HD TV (which, based on the odds and sods I've seen is a format that seems only to exist to make the world's most expensive effects look the same as a quick cash in Asylum film).

I don't mind big dumb stupid action films, but any film that took a decade to make demands having more to it than "Hey, lets stick this stuff from Aliens on the planet with the rebel base on it from Star Wars and paint everything else blue".

At least in Aliens there's no delusions towards being a tree hugging native American parable where the guys with guns are bad. No, big guns are ******* awesome and the aliens are psychos who bleed acid. A lack of unkillable monsters is really where Cameron's been going wrong lately. Certainly Titanic would have been more fun if David Warner had been an super robot. With acid for blood.

Though these days Titanic at least makes me smile in that it very nearly convinced the world Billy Zane was a star. But now he's only really remembered for two things:

1: Being one of far to many men who've done it with Kelly Brook but who haven't been me [Bastard].

And

2: Making us all realise the really cool stuff we all loved about The Phantom (the black panther, the evil elder brother, the ability to let ten beasts enter him at once) was completely made up for Defenders of the Earth and the comic version is actually a bit crap.

Poor Billy Zane. :(

EDIT: Though thinking about it, the whole having slept with Kelly Brook thing probably fills his dreams more than the failure of The Phantom. So he's still a bastard.
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Post by Guest » Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:09 am

inflatable dalek wrote:Certainly Titanic would have been more fun if David Warner had been an super robot. With acid for blood.
I believe that originally in A Night To Remember, David Warner was intended to be a super robot with acid for blood, but Kenneth More poo-pooed the idea of an upstart 16-year-old having a more memorable role than him, and so all Warner's scenes were dropped.

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Post by inflatable dalek » Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:16 am

Rebis wrote: I believe that originally in A Night To Remember, David Warner was intended to be a super robot with acid for blood, but Kenneth More poo-pooed the idea of an upstart 16-year-old having a more memorable role than him, and so all Warner's scenes were dropped.
Yep. Though luckily More was ignored by the director when he demanded Kate Winslet get her tits out. It just wouldn't have been feasible.

Well, not without sending the Warner robot (fun fact, Warner actually is a super robot with acid for blood. That's why no one will ever remind him of Secret of the Ooze because he'll rip their face off) into the future to grab her fully formed cleavage.

Mr. McG, if you're reading and want a better plot for Terminator 5 than the last one, that's on the table. Just make me an offer.
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