The jumbo "BSG season 4.5 thread" [Spoilers!]

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:52 am

Scotland. Tyrol went to Scotland.

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:One question though: If they found the remains of a child (Hera) next to her parents, then how was she the future of the races? Or was she more of a figurehead of how things had to be in order to survive?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_eve

All humanity is descended from Hera. She was "the shape of things to come".

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:00 pm

he just said the islands off the northern continent didnt he?

Scottland eh?
[composite word including 'f*ck'] em then

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:35 pm

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:he just said the islands off the northern continent didnt he?

He specified the highlands.

According to RDM's podcast, Aaron Douglas got excited by the line and asked specifically if it could be the highlands. Being as Douglas is a Scottish name.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:19 pm

still not seen the final episode, been moving house, and this is the first time ive had the internet back, so ill DL the spisode via itunes...cant wait!

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:27 pm

just go to scifi.com. they have it right there under full episodes

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:12 pm

I think that US only?

The Last Autobot · Post by **The Last Autobot** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:12 am

Ive only watched a couple of episodes and Im more confused than Adam in Mother´s day

Can anyone of you point me where to find a good summary of the series or can anyone explain it in no more than 20 paragraphs?

Thnx!

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:03 am

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:I think that US only?

try that linkhttp://www.scifi.com/rewind/

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:59 am

The Last Autobot wrote:Ive only watched a couple of episodes

Of season 4.5 or of the series in its entirety?

The Last Autobot · Post by **The Last Autobot** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:15 am

Brendocon wrote:
The Last Autobot wrote:Ive only watched a couple of episodes
Of season 4.5 or of the series in its entirety?

Well Ive watched half the series actually, but nothing of the last season.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:02 am

There are many, many answers to many, many questions in the last season.

All will become clear.

Or alternatively, battlestarwiki.org - though be warned, it's dry and humourless to the point of pretentious banality.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:51 pm

still wanna know why six and baltar seem happy that hera apparently died as a child beside helo and athena.

"Shes M-Eve.. isnt that great?"

No.. the last scene we see of Hera is the family walking along happily bantering and planning thier future. Who knew they were about to be eaten or killed by primitive man?

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:50 pm

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:"Shes M-Eve.. isnt that great?"

No.. the last scene we see of Hera is the family walking along happily bantering and planning thier future. Who knew they were about to be eaten or killed by primitive man?

The point of being mitochondrial Eve means that she shagged a whole lot of primitive men first, I suspect.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:11 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote:
Optimus Prime Rib wrote:"Shes M-Eve.. isnt that great?"

No.. the last scene we see of Hera is the family walking along happily bantering and planning thier future. Who knew they were about to be eaten or killed by primitive man?
The point of being mitochondrial Eve means that she shagged a whole lot of primitive men first, I suspect.

um... eww?

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:13 pm

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:
Metal Vendetta wrote: The point of being mitochondrial Eve means that she shagged a whole lot of primitive men first, I suspect.
um... eww?

Because sex = gross?

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:15 pm

because they said "the remains of a child believed to be Mitochondrial Eve"

so yes if Hera was having lots of sex as a child.. then "eww"

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:20 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote:
Optimus Prime Rib wrote:"Shes M-Eve.. isnt that great?"

No.. the last scene we see of Hera is the family walking along happily bantering and planning thier future. Who knew they were about to be eaten or killed by primitive man?
The point of being mitochondrial Eve means that she shagged a whole lot of primitive men first, I suspect.

A whole lot of primitive men who were miserly about their Y chromosomes, no less.

And then her daughters survived to shag slightly less primitive men who were also as miserly about their Y chromosomes as their fathers.

And then their daughters survived to shag....

And then Ronald D Moore wrote a story about it all.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:23 pm

this conversation took a dark dark turn for the worse lol

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:40 pm

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:because they said "the remains of a child believed to be Mitochondrial Eve"

"young woman" wasn't it?

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:23 pm

Brendocon wrote:
Optimus Prime Rib wrote:because they said "the remains of a child believed to be Mitochondrial Eve"
"young woman" wasn't it?

one can only hope. Ill watch the ep again later to verify

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:35 pm

The line is "archaeologists believe they have found the remains of a young woman who may actually be mitochondrial Eve".

It's probably worth noting that it's in the third person of a news report and probably represents a journalist's spin anyway - the odds of discovering the actual mitochondrial Eve are so remote that I doubt any scientist would claim that.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:39 pm

at the same time, Baltar and Six (angel versions) wouldnt exactly get excited over something other than the discovery of Hera, would they? And Hera would be Mitochondrial Eve. The only thing that disturbed me was I thought they said a young child, between her father and mother.

Had kids screaming around me when trying to watch the ep to be fair.

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:38 am

Brendocon wrote:Helo having survived was a nice surprise after I'd written him off.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=20733

On BSG ECCC Panel, Tahmoh Penikett wrote:I protested the original ending for Helo. He was going to die. But I thought the fans would expect that. I wanted his story to be more surprising.

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:29 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestar ... :_The_Plan

Just in case as spoiler: "Tricia Helfer states that the disappearance of Shelly Godfrey in "Six Degrees of Separation" will be explained."

Yes!

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 12:36 pm

Boo!

I'd read that before. I like it as it is, especially on rewatch. :-/

Well, at least we know whatever the explanation is, it won't be fanwank in quality.

Post by **Best First** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:31 pm

Hello, my name is (not really) Best First and i am (yes really) behind on everything.

Finally watched the end of this. Did a rather superb job of avoiding spoilers with the exception of Sam being one of the final five but only caught that a few weeks before All Along The Watchtower (a fine choice and no mistake) kicked in so not the end of the world.

General ponderings run thusly;

Loved what they did with Tigh - and how it did, and ultimately didn't, affect his relationship with Adama. Their relationship was the best thing running through the final series for me.

The Coup episodes were phenominal - i was pretty much howling at the screens in parts of it - Adama's speech on the bridge when he was arrested almost bust my speakers. Poor old Felix though. Nice to see Zarek going out with a bit of humility even when every moment up to then had been characterised otherwise. Everyone seemed to ignore the fact that a lot of the fault for the divisions lay with Roslin for not manning up when they had to deal with the fatigue of Wrong Earth though.

After that i felt it flagged a little (only in comparison) - bit of contrivance about 1 keeping Ellen alive although it was nice to have him finally thrust forward as the real villain of the piece. That said his ascension was also rather rushed over, including the confusing mention of Daniel who i assumed was the guy at the piano until i saw the interviews.

The finale was brilliant though, including the ROTK type ending which i thought it fully earned. Struggled a bit with the Kara thing, i think it might have fit better if they hadn't presented such concrete evidence of her death - all the other psuedo religous stuff was a bit more intangible - that said i think they made the right call not explaining it - the whole thing whould have become too mechanical.

Love that Helo made it.

Just about willing to swallow the technology dumping - but its hard to imagine there were not pockets of people who re-invented things. I find it hard to imagine Cottle, for example, would not have a hard time repressing the urge to get some medical tech up and running to the extent possible if people were being killed by something he knew was easy to cure. You can throw your car away but it doesn't stop you knowing what a car is.

Glad Tori died - the skank. Saw her Cylonniness coming as she seemed pushed forward in prominance quite a bit. Guess she served a purpose in standing in contrast to the others who more or less stayed true to what they were.

Poor old Sam, bit harsh. But then maybe he knew that he would see Kara again soon.

Also glad Hotdog made it. Guess its possible he is the man who bought STDs to earth.

So, all in all, magical.

Now to start on the Soprano's...

Or maybe watch this from the start again hmm...

Not quite as good as The Wire tho.

edit -in terms of the Battlestar Wiki... this almost caused me to fold in half with laughter:

Doctor Gaius Baltar is a brilliant scientist, and the rightfully elected president of the colonies. His visions and insight result in him becoming a revered religious figure for the remnants of humanity. Though not without minor flaws, Dr.Baltar has acted selflessly on numerous occasions, and has saved the fleet multiple times.

Yes, that is just how it was portrayed.

Does Starscream know that his fangirls are cheating on him?

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 12:36 pm

I love that the whole genocide was just basically Cavil getting back at his parents.

The Plan is out on DVD (in the States) in October. Huzzah!

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 1:13 pm

Still haven't caught up on the Caprica pilot.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:58 pm

Trailer for The Plan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYV7WeaDP_8

Looks like Boomer was having hypnotherapy in season 1... which at least helps explain certain things.

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:25 pm

Frankly I tried watching the new BSG and - don't throw rock(lord)s at me! - found almost all the characters... pretty unsympathetic. And I can't really enjoy the series if there is no-one I can care about... I had the same troubles with Babylon5 (only person I liked was G'Kar)...

My question is, I only remember the old BSG vaguely (saw the movies and some episodes) and that I liked it. How many seasons is it, and is it good by today's standards?