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Ooh, good call. I picked up the first 2 of the Order and it was fun and well written and drawn and everything, but there was a definite vibe of seeing it before, despite the very 'now' tone and setting. I think you just picked out the very book it's kind of aping.Hound wrote:Has anyone been reading The Order? It's one of the initiative books. Taking a bunch of high-profile humans and super-powering them. Very good too. Shame that X-Factor did it years ago with a lot more humour.
BF, Fell is excellent. Much better than Doktor Sleepless. It's also cheap as chips...as long as chips cost two quid round your way. Doktor Sleepless and that superhero book he's doing for Avatar that's such a Generic Warren Ellis FightPorn Comic Book that I've actually went and forgotten it's name are slightly poor. I'm finding Ellis increasingly frustrating these days, he's always been prolific and had some duds, but his meh books are merging more and more into one. Good job his great books tend to be better than most anything else!
Did you guys get Crecy? Some very transfans humour in that, I thought.
Have you read Lazarus Churchyard, sprunk? That's awesome. Did you like it?
Best book for me recently again is Iron Fist. This is why.
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I need to read LC, KingMob. But yeh, Fell was great. "Satan's going to be humping him in the binghole for the next thousand years. I love Jesus." I think the art went a long way. It's nice that a comic with black humor and over-the-top violence was portrayed in such a surrealistic way. More in the column, which should be up by the end of the week.
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Heh. My wife says the same thing--that me describing the art is always the best part. Crazy.
I found it hard to divorce my event fatigue from WWH--and it reads like quite an event, I think, in the sense of being a big popcorn blockbuster. But yeah, I do see that I sort of skimped on that. Rereading I can see that one more paragraph, on the writing, would have improved things. Next month?
Thanks for reading, though. Much appreciated.
I found it hard to divorce my event fatigue from WWH--and it reads like quite an event, I think, in the sense of being a big popcorn blockbuster. But yeah, I do see that I sort of skimped on that. Rereading I can see that one more paragraph, on the writing, would have improved things. Next month?
Thanks for reading, though. Much appreciated.
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Let's see what I'm digging now.
Suprisingly, the Annihilation stuff I'm digging, particularly Starlord and Nova. Fun stuff.
I'm really liking Thunderbolts, something I'm glad I picked up after considering passing on.
And Iron Fist ain't too shabby either. Nice little story Brubaker has going there.
Star Wars:Dark Times and Star Wars:Knights of the Old Republic are still fun for me. That Wheatley guy has got to be amongst the top three artists in comics. What a dream come true it would be if I could just see him pencil one, just one!, Transformers comic.
With World War Hulk, I'm there but not out of my seat. Going along for the ride, and somewhat enjoying it, but kind of a second tier property for me.
Finally, I have to say that even looking at things as objectively as possible, the stuff Furman is writing with Devestation beats out most of the crap I've read. My bro who isn't really a Transformers fan agrees that it's better than most.
Suprisingly, the Annihilation stuff I'm digging, particularly Starlord and Nova. Fun stuff.
I'm really liking Thunderbolts, something I'm glad I picked up after considering passing on.
And Iron Fist ain't too shabby either. Nice little story Brubaker has going there.
Star Wars:Dark Times and Star Wars:Knights of the Old Republic are still fun for me. That Wheatley guy has got to be amongst the top three artists in comics. What a dream come true it would be if I could just see him pencil one, just one!, Transformers comic.
With World War Hulk, I'm there but not out of my seat. Going along for the ride, and somewhat enjoying it, but kind of a second tier property for me.
Finally, I have to say that even looking at things as objectively as possible, the stuff Furman is writing with Devestation beats out most of the crap I've read. My bro who isn't really a Transformers fan agrees that it's better than most.
"But the Costa story featuring Starscream? Fantastic! This guy is "The One", I just know it, just from these few pages. "--Yaya, who is never wrong.
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Yeah, Devestation is just a genuinely good comic series (and IMO so were the forerunners) - noticable they are getting regular mentions on The Read Pile at CBR.
I think that's one of the reasons both DW and Megs: O dissapoint me - they felt like amautuer efforts, whereas the main continuity can sit alongside the big boys and fare well.
random comic wibblings:
Did anyone bother with JLA/Hitman by the way? I thought it was superb, fun, touching, and with killings. Yay.
Ultimate Spidey remains brilliant - its a nunnynunnifier.
One More Day i hate so much i may axe the main MU spidey titles from my buy list. Its sad how JMSs run has gone from sublime to dull to dreadfull (Chris Clairemont, if you ever want to see a compressed view of your career...)
WW:Hulk - been too long since issue 4 and it feels like the whole thing is losing steam, still intrigued tho, and a lot of the more reandom ties ins (Ghost Rider, Heroes for Hire, Punisher War J) have been fun.
FF is pretty fun at the moment. Pretty confident Millars run will be a) amazing and b) erratic in its shipping schedule.
X-men is totally back on form for my money - which given (TFs aside) that they were my way into 'proper' comics but got so bad i dropped them a few years back is really exciting for me. Even Gambit didn't annoy me this month - still, i hope he dies soon...
Post Cap Cap is terrific. Whoever thought bringing Bucky back would be a good idea? As long as the new Cap doesn't end up being taken down by the resurrected old cap in some Knightfall/USAgent style balls.... but Brubaker seems more nuanced than that.
Both Avengers titles... ok i guess, slightly lost momentum for me once Civil War hit. Liberal Avengers is slightly better but i enjoy the though bubbles in Neo-con Avangers. Intrigued by the Skrulls thing - my first skrull guess: Miriam Sharpe.
Thuderbolts - yep, great stuff - American Eagle is still my fav ething in it tho. yeah? Yeah? Yeah?
When's Excalibrrr #25 out - i might become interested once CC is off it (shame about Exiles, i see he has introduced Sage now - hah! Given the paucity of ideas this man has how long until her and psylocke lez up?)
Woo. Comics.
I think that's one of the reasons both DW and Megs: O dissapoint me - they felt like amautuer efforts, whereas the main continuity can sit alongside the big boys and fare well.
random comic wibblings:
Did anyone bother with JLA/Hitman by the way? I thought it was superb, fun, touching, and with killings. Yay.
Ultimate Spidey remains brilliant - its a nunnynunnifier.
One More Day i hate so much i may axe the main MU spidey titles from my buy list. Its sad how JMSs run has gone from sublime to dull to dreadfull (Chris Clairemont, if you ever want to see a compressed view of your career...)
WW:Hulk - been too long since issue 4 and it feels like the whole thing is losing steam, still intrigued tho, and a lot of the more reandom ties ins (Ghost Rider, Heroes for Hire, Punisher War J) have been fun.
FF is pretty fun at the moment. Pretty confident Millars run will be a) amazing and b) erratic in its shipping schedule.
X-men is totally back on form for my money - which given (TFs aside) that they were my way into 'proper' comics but got so bad i dropped them a few years back is really exciting for me. Even Gambit didn't annoy me this month - still, i hope he dies soon...
Post Cap Cap is terrific. Whoever thought bringing Bucky back would be a good idea? As long as the new Cap doesn't end up being taken down by the resurrected old cap in some Knightfall/USAgent style balls.... but Brubaker seems more nuanced than that.
Both Avengers titles... ok i guess, slightly lost momentum for me once Civil War hit. Liberal Avengers is slightly better but i enjoy the though bubbles in Neo-con Avangers. Intrigued by the Skrulls thing - my first skrull guess: Miriam Sharpe.
Thuderbolts - yep, great stuff - American Eagle is still my fav ething in it tho. yeah? Yeah? Yeah?
When's Excalibrrr #25 out - i might become interested once CC is off it (shame about Exiles, i see he has introduced Sage now - hah! Given the paucity of ideas this man has how long until her and psylocke lez up?)
Woo. Comics.
Sage? Ugh. Has he decided what her power is / how to write it yet?
Tempted to maybe pick up X-Men again. Was my main way into comics too, and [Astonishing aside] I dropped it for being shoddy beyond belief.
Only things I'm picking up at the mo are Astonishing, TF, Runaways and Buffy. Which are all obviously aces. I don't read crap comics. Well, apart from Megs Origin.
Waiting for the first Ellis Thunderbolts TPB. Fortunately I have a stack of TPBs to read whilst I wait (Ultimate Spidey, Fell, Jack of Fables).
Apparently IDW are sticking out a new Angel series (After the Fall) which is a Joss-approved pick up from the end of season 5. I am not convinced this is anything even remotely resembling a Good Idea.
Tempted to maybe pick up X-Men again. Was my main way into comics too, and [Astonishing aside] I dropped it for being shoddy beyond belief.
Only things I'm picking up at the mo are Astonishing, TF, Runaways and Buffy. Which are all obviously aces. I don't read crap comics. Well, apart from Megs Origin.
Waiting for the first Ellis Thunderbolts TPB. Fortunately I have a stack of TPBs to read whilst I wait (Ultimate Spidey, Fell, Jack of Fables).
Apparently IDW are sticking out a new Angel series (After the Fall) which is a Joss-approved pick up from the end of season 5. I am not convinced this is anything even remotely resembling a Good Idea.
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Oh, hell yeah. I mean, the way he whipped up on Bullseye out of the blue! It was certainly one of my favorite comic moments of the year, because it was totally unexpected. I was feeling sorry for Eagle, thinking "here goes another gruesome end for yet another Bullseye no-name victim". That's why I think Marvel is really hitting their stride, they are saying "to hell with the past and the cardinal rules of comics, **** is going to happen". It's almost like we're reading a What If? comic, except it's not. [/quote]Best First wrote: Thuderbolts - yep, great stuff - American Eagle is still my fav ething in it tho. yeah? Yeah? Yeah?
That's what I've heard. Gotta start picking this up, get the trade.Post Cap Cap is terrific.
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Let's see here......
New Avengers keeps on plodding along. The Hood stuff is good, but I'm anxious to get to the Skrullery.
Not saying I'm enjoying One More Day, but those delays are complete and utter b***s***. Everytime Quesada was asked about OMD, he swore on his mother's grave it was going to schedule. This comic was originally supposed to be WEEKLY in SEPTEMBER. Now we have to wait until December? THREE 616 Spidey comics in four months? Abysmal. As for the story, I'd bet money Loki is the little girl, and as long as MJ comes out the other side as Jackpot and Peter Parker gets put back in the secret identity bottle, I'll be fine, Spider Marriage or no.
Thunderbolts is a good read, but it's not knocking my socks off in this new arc thus far, though. I like the new directions of Penance and Norman, though.
OK, I'm not an X-Fan, but I'm on board for Messiah Complex.
Just got up to the identity of the Adversary in Fables. Damn fine book, that one.
Goodbye Y The Last Man! We Love You!
The only DC thing I'm reading right now is Brave and the Bold, which kicks ass. Oh, and I picked up JSA today, because I'm a sucker for Kingdom Come Superman showing up in DC continuity.
If you haven't got a chance yet, go pick up the Spiderman/FF TPB by Jeff Parker(Bone) and the late Mike Wieringo. Great story, great art, reasonable price. Gotta love it.
I'm also getting around to reading Peter David's run on Incredible Hulk. And Volume 2 of Rex Mundi.
I like WWH, but yeah, the excitement has died.
Civil War: Summer Event that because of delays, bled into the rest of the year.
World War Hulk: Summer Event that was planned from the get go to bleed into the rest of the year.
Cap: Best Book Out. Period. And the craziest thing is, most people on the Internet would agree with you.
I just feel like now that Marvel is making money hand over fist again, they're feeling too confident to worry about accountability when it comes to scheduling.
Us: "Comic Book X is two months late."
Them: "Well, you still bought it so sccccrreeeeewwwwww YOU!"
New Avengers keeps on plodding along. The Hood stuff is good, but I'm anxious to get to the Skrullery.
Not saying I'm enjoying One More Day, but those delays are complete and utter b***s***. Everytime Quesada was asked about OMD, he swore on his mother's grave it was going to schedule. This comic was originally supposed to be WEEKLY in SEPTEMBER. Now we have to wait until December? THREE 616 Spidey comics in four months? Abysmal. As for the story, I'd bet money Loki is the little girl, and as long as MJ comes out the other side as Jackpot and Peter Parker gets put back in the secret identity bottle, I'll be fine, Spider Marriage or no.
Thunderbolts is a good read, but it's not knocking my socks off in this new arc thus far, though. I like the new directions of Penance and Norman, though.
OK, I'm not an X-Fan, but I'm on board for Messiah Complex.
Just got up to the identity of the Adversary in Fables. Damn fine book, that one.
Goodbye Y The Last Man! We Love You!
The only DC thing I'm reading right now is Brave and the Bold, which kicks ass. Oh, and I picked up JSA today, because I'm a sucker for Kingdom Come Superman showing up in DC continuity.
If you haven't got a chance yet, go pick up the Spiderman/FF TPB by Jeff Parker(Bone) and the late Mike Wieringo. Great story, great art, reasonable price. Gotta love it.
I'm also getting around to reading Peter David's run on Incredible Hulk. And Volume 2 of Rex Mundi.
I like WWH, but yeah, the excitement has died.
Civil War: Summer Event that because of delays, bled into the rest of the year.
World War Hulk: Summer Event that was planned from the get go to bleed into the rest of the year.
Cap: Best Book Out. Period. And the craziest thing is, most people on the Internet would agree with you.
I just feel like now that Marvel is making money hand over fist again, they're feeling too confident to worry about accountability when it comes to scheduling.
Us: "Comic Book X is two months late."
Them: "Well, you still bought it so sccccrreeeeewwwwww YOU!"
Best First wrote:I thought we could just meander between making well thought out points, being needlessly immature, provocative and generalist, then veer into caring about constructive debate and make a few valid points, act civil for a bit, then lower the tone again, then act offended when we get called on it, then dictate what it is and isn't worth debating, reinterpret a few of my own posts through a less offensive lens, then jaunt down whatever other path our seemingly volatile mood took us in.
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>>>>New Avengers keeps on plodding along. The Hood stuff is good, but I'm anxious to get to the Skrullery.
I know, although as that seems to have potentially far reaching consqeuences i could do with the story just running in NA for a while before it hits the rest of the MU. Agree The Hood stuff is fun - the broke Deathlok!
>>>>Not saying I'm enjoying One More Day, but those delays are complete and utter b***s***.
One more delay! HA! i am clevererer.
>>>>Just got up to the identity of the Adversary in Fables. Damn fine book, that one.
word.
>>>>Goodbye Y The Last Man! We Love You!
hate to say it but kind of meandered for me for the last third. Still intrigued to see the conclusion. Very sad about the events of last issue...
>>>>If you haven't got a chance yet, go pick up the Spiderman/FF TPB by Jeff Parker(Bone) and the late Mike Wieringo. Great story, great art, reasonable price. Gotta love it.
Noted.
>>>>Cap: Best Book Out. Period. And the craziest thing is, most people on the Internet would agree with you.
The sky is hurtling towards us as i type.
>>>>I just feel like now that Marvel is making money hand over fist again, they're feeling too confident to worry about accountability when it comes to scheduling.
I don't buy that to be honest, by not sticking to their plans they will be messing with their cash flow which is no way to run a business. Whilst there are clearly some problems that need addressing i don't think there will be many people there thinking 'ah, its fine'.
They could be a bit smarted about the PR tho...
I know, although as that seems to have potentially far reaching consqeuences i could do with the story just running in NA for a while before it hits the rest of the MU. Agree The Hood stuff is fun - the broke Deathlok!
>>>>Not saying I'm enjoying One More Day, but those delays are complete and utter b***s***.
One more delay! HA! i am clevererer.
>>>>Just got up to the identity of the Adversary in Fables. Damn fine book, that one.
word.
>>>>Goodbye Y The Last Man! We Love You!
hate to say it but kind of meandered for me for the last third. Still intrigued to see the conclusion. Very sad about the events of last issue...
>>>>If you haven't got a chance yet, go pick up the Spiderman/FF TPB by Jeff Parker(Bone) and the late Mike Wieringo. Great story, great art, reasonable price. Gotta love it.
Noted.
>>>>Cap: Best Book Out. Period. And the craziest thing is, most people on the Internet would agree with you.
The sky is hurtling towards us as i type.
>>>>I just feel like now that Marvel is making money hand over fist again, they're feeling too confident to worry about accountability when it comes to scheduling.
I don't buy that to be honest, by not sticking to their plans they will be messing with their cash flow which is no way to run a business. Whilst there are clearly some problems that need addressing i don't think there will be many people there thinking 'ah, its fine'.
They could be a bit smarted about the PR tho...
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I agree with that to a large extent. My thinking is based upon the idea that they A, still make $ comprable to what they normally make on the book when it comes out, and B, make as much if not more $ on the TPB.Best First wrote: >>>>I just feel like now that Marvel is making money hand over fist again, they're feeling too confident to worry about accountability when it comes to scheduling.
I don't buy that to be honest, by not sticking to their plans they will be messing with their cash flow which is no way to run a business. Whilst there are clearly some problems that need addressing i don't think there will be many people there thinking 'ah, its fine'.
They could be a bit smarted about the PR tho...
You're right though, it's more about the shoddy PR. To me, the PR for the CW and OMD delays was identitical. The problem is, on OMD, your delays are being caused by an artist who is ALSO the EIC, and who spent the better part of 2007 pooh-poohing the 1,358 questions he got that said, "Hey, since you're the EIC, will this slow down or push back OMD's release schedule at all?"
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Not before February, for sure. ALthough I'm not entirely sure that there will be #25. In New Excalibur #24 it siad that it's the last issue of this series. It probably will mean that Cornell will start with Excalibur #1. Or maybe they'll just go with Wisdom solo series.Best First wrote:When's Excalibrrr #25 out - i might become interested once CC is off it (shame about Exiles, i see he has introduced Sage now - hah! Given the paucity of ideas this man has how long until her and psylocke lez up?)
Anyway, my biggest concern is that this new New Excalibur featured both Wisdom and Braddock. Pete is a given, but I have a nasty feeling that Claremont will take Brian to New Exiles, judging by solicitations. Would be shame. It's enough he doesn't let anybody else touch Psylocke and it's not like he can't bring one from an alternate universe like he did with the rest of the current cast in that book (Exiles = Claremont's dream team of X-Men, but from other worlds).
X-Men: Messiah CompleX, a one-shot that begins the cross-over just came out. That may be good jumping point.Brendocon wrote:Tempted to maybe pick up X-Men again. Was my main way into comics too, and [Astonishing aside] I dropped it for being shoddy beyond belief.
Enjoying many Marvel output now. X-Men, Ultimate... well, everything, The Order, Criminal, Powers, Avengers (The Initiative more than Bendis' tiltes), She-Hulk (though the jury's still out on Peter David), Thunderbolts, Annihilation: Conquest (though like with its predecessor, I'm mainly waiting for the main mini. Nova's great, though). WWH not so. The story is so-so, but I hate Romita. Or whoever this guy is who signs his ugly work with Romita's name since early 90s. WWH: X-Men though... might've been just long fight scene, but how cool was that, yeah?
The delays are annoying. They really hurt some of the series, like Thunderbolts, Astonishing or Runaways. They will still read good in TPBs, anyway. And now, there are three new Ultimate mini-series coming up. Will they be out on time? It needs to be reminded that previous three mini-series from that imprint are still not finished...
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