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Post by Brendocon » Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:47 pm

AvX #5.

Er, okay then?

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Post by Hound » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:38 am

Brendocon wrote:AvX #5.

Er, okay then?
My thoughts exactly.

I am so sick of The Phoenix
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Post by Best First » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:46 am

Eh, yep.

Kinda went off a cliff there.

Not sure they have mastered the balance of keeping both sides sympathetic either - X-Men are def looking a tad deranged, even prior to Pheonix possession.

Cyclops is gonna die isn't he?
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Post by Brendocon » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:05 pm

YOU'RE OPPRESSING US! STOP OPPRESSING US!

Reasoned argument turned into annoying whining yay.
Cyclops is gonna die isn't he?
We can but hope.

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Post by Optimus Prime Rib » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:08 pm

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Post by Hound » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:48 pm

Cyclops has been brilliant ever since the whole 'no more mutants' thing started. It gave his character real purpose and his own identity. It's been a relatively natural (for Marvel) build up of his character to get to this point.

I don't think he will die, but I'm sure he will be taken of the table or a while. Maybe imprisoned or something. Pushed aside so that Wolverine can lead the X-Men in full *spit*
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Post by Brendocon » Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:47 pm

Hound wrote:Pushed aside so that Wolverine can lead the X-Men in full *spit*
So long as it's not drawn by Bachalo.

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Post by Shanti418 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:59 pm

Hound wrote:Cyclops has been brilliant ever since the whole 'no more mutants' thing started. It gave his character real purpose and his own identity. It's been a relatively natural (for Marvel) build up of his character to get to this point.

I don't think he will die, but I'm sure he will be taken of the table or a while. Maybe imprisoned or something. Pushed aside so that Wolverine can lead the X-Men in full *spit*
I think that's the exact thing though: they're kind of pushed him into this super duper, extra-hard-as-nails-makes-tough-decisions box. That was always his character, but now that's basically the only dimension of his character (post no more mutants). So killing him is kind of the only way to reset Cyclops (save the OMG what have I done? a la Stark in Civil War).

Whether by death or by dissolution however, I think Emma/Scott is done with, esp. given this. I think this is like the X-Men version of Dark Reign. That had the effect of mopping up all the stuff from the last several years for a new, classic status quo: Thor/Cap/Iron Man with friends in a Heroic Age! So here, Cyclops/X-Force/Utopia, even Hope....I could all see them coming off the board and moving back to a Prof X/X-Mansion status quo, with Phoenix Force effects (and perhaps Wanda helping clean up her mess?) creating new mutants in future births.
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Post by Brendocon » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:18 pm

YAY RESETS.

Let's make everything exactly the way it was back in the day, kids. Because progress is bad.

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Post by Brendocon » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:06 pm

Am I missing something, or was AvX:VS #3 basically half in a language I don't speak and I need to download a phone app to find out what they're saying?

Still, FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT etc.

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Post by Hound » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:03 am

The latest AvX was actually pretty good.

But god damn this series has cemented my hatred for Wolverine. His hypocrisy (even Beast is realising this and he is the master hypocrite of the X-Men) and his new found 'think of the children ********' seems to utterly fly in the face of what was once a fairly interesting character.

Now it turns out that Wolverine helped found the original X-Men or some ******** like that in the recently announced 'First X-Men'.
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Post by Brendocon » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:03 pm

Wolverine would be far less annoying if he weren't so over-exposed. At times it feels like it's not the Marvel Universe but the Wolverine Universe.

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Post by Best First » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:44 am

Hound wrote: Now it turns out that Wolverine helped found the original X-Men or some ******** like that in the recently announced 'First X-Men'.
Ugh. Just googled that. Wish i hadn't.
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Post by Brendocon » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:41 am

Having done similar, that can [composite word including 'f*ck'] off.

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Post by Hound » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:52 pm

Wolverine also invented burritos, wrote most of The Beatles best songs, discovered America and is actually Jesus
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Post by bumblemusprime » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:03 am

Hound wrote:Wolverine also invented burritos, wrote most of The Beatles best songs, discovered America and is actually Jesus
At first I read that as "He discovered America is actually Jesus."

And wrote the book of love.

And will stop the rain.

And will drive you home.
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Post by Hot Shot » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:24 pm

At first I read that as "He discovered America is actually Jesus."
It's funny, because the rest of the world is crucifying us. :P
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Post by Shanti418 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:42 pm

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At first I read that as "He discovered America is actually Jesus."
It's funny, because the rest of the world is crucifying us. :P
In this version, instead of cleaning the temple of moneychangers, he gives them tax breaks.
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Post by bumblemusprime » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:01 pm

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At first I read that as "He discovered America is actually Jesus."
It's funny, because the rest of the world is crucifying us. :P
In this version, instead of cleaning the temple of moneychangers, he gives them tax breaks.
You know, it has occurred to about one person in the history of American Christian rhetoric that "maybe 1st-century Roman Palestine is a bad context to make broad comparisons to 20th-21st century America."
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Post by Shanti418 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:59 pm

Back to comic news...

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/marvel- ... alpha.html

Don't. get. at. all. So you unmarried him, deaged him, have a "without Uncle Ben, no power/responsiblity schtick" in Scarlet Spider, have a teenage non Peter Park Spidey in Ultimate, and NOW you want to add a teenage sidekick to Spiderman a "Batman to his Robin" as if that's a good thing? What exactly is the point of that, and at what point do you ever actually get rid of this guy? Why are you going to piss all over your OMD spoils by forcing Peter into a position where he IS the mature, old voice of reason, restraint, discretion, etc against a young n'er do well? I mean SERIOUSLY.
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Post by Best First » Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:56 pm

I can't wait until they turn him into a Vampire
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Post by bumblemusprime » Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:46 pm

James Robinson on He-Man? Color me intrigued,

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=38505
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Post by Shanti418 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:22 pm

bumblemusprime wrote:James Robinson on He-Man? Color me intrigued,

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=38505
Oh yeah. Taking He Man totally serious? GENIUS.

So I'm thinking of starting to read a new series in trades. The nominees are....
1. BKV's Ex Machina
2. Terry Moore's Echo
3. Jeff Smith's RASL.

Anybody have an opinion? Bumble, I've got you down for a large neon sign flashing "RASL FTW" until you tell me otherwise.
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Post by bumblemusprime » Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:17 pm

Shanti418 wrote:
bumblemusprime wrote:James Robinson on He-Man? Color me intrigued,

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=38505
Oh yeah. Taking He Man totally serious? GENIUS.

So I'm thinking of starting to read a new series in trades. The nominees are....
1. BKV's Ex Machina
2. Terry Moore's Echo
3. Jeff Smith's RASL.

Anybody have an opinion? Bumble, I've got you down for a large neon sign flashing "RASL FTW" until you tell me otherwise.
I refer you to this erudite gent:

http://www.intergalacticmedicineshow.co ... rticle=034
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Post by Brendocon » Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:36 pm

Marvel NOW anybody?
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=39525

So it looks like the Regenesis roster split will be undone in under a year.

The notion of Bendis & Immonen doing a story where the original X-Men land slap bang in the current sounds both amazing and awful in equal measures. Will depend how long the series lasts as to how far over the shark that makes it.

Still, they made it about ten years before finding a way of bringing Jean back. That's quite impressive.

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Post by bumblemusprime » Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:27 pm

"It's 2012?"

"Yeah. Like, 2012."

"Whoa. 2012."

"Whoa."

"Yeah."

"What just happened? Did you see what just happened?"
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Post by Brendocon » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:07 pm

"So if this is 2012, how come our future selves only look like five years older? Ten, tops."

"Er..."

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Post by Shanti418 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:32 pm

Seems like a bunch of crap to me. Instead of some sort of single unifying idea of what should be done (which, for better or worse, DC DID have), they're throwing crap against the wall. "Hey Bendis, you trade place with Hickman, Hickman, you go over here where Bendis was, and let's put that guy that wrote XXXombies out front. And then let's bring back the original X-Men: we don't need to cyberpunch any continuity walls, we'll just have Mephisto take care of this one again. And Joe Q, maybe you want to f*** around with some character designs? Then let's release some comics for the new reader and call it "Point One," er, "NOW!""

As far as that picture: So we're adding Ultimate Cap and Ultimate Nick Fury, making Cyclops a LITERAL Cyclops, making Iron Man and Thor "more blacker," giving Hulk a robot sidekick (which is totally ridiculous unless it has like the soul of Bruce Banner in it or something)???

I will give them this though: they are totally all in on this "Everything we make in movie form turns to gold therefore here's Guardians of the Galaxy and Rrrrrooocket Raccoooonnn!" Because you know, after the Avengers, the wise-cracking Han Solo raccoon is their most bankable property.
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Post by Best First » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:37 pm

Quite like the look of some of that - Uncanny Avengers sounds like the mutts.

Can't quite buy into the concept that the current marvel U is worse than one where the Sentinels killed EVERYONE though.
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Post by Shanti418 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:49 pm

Best First wrote:Quite like the look of some of that - Uncanny Avengers sounds like the mutts.

Can't quite buy into the concept that the current marvel U is worse than one where the Sentinels killed EVERYONE though.

I don't know...on the one hand, the entire world ISN'T a despotic post Apocalyptic wasteland filled with death and sadness. On the other hand, Jubilee's a vampire, people leave their kids alone with Wolverine, and Beast is blue. So potato, poTATo. :P
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