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Post by Predabot » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:29 pm

The reason Ultimate X stopped coming out completely is apparently because Arthur Adams has is taking an unspecified length of paternity leave whilst helping out his wife with their new kid.

The wee child was born around the time when issue #3 came out, if I recall correctly.

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Post by Best First » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:07 pm

allow me to be clearer - red hulk is for c*nts
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Post by Brendocon » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:50 am

They're not seriously still dragging out this Red Hulk ******** are they?

At least tell me they've said who it is.

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Post by Professor Smooth » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:06 am

Brendocon wrote:They're not seriously still dragging out this Red Hulk ******** are they?

At least tell me they've said who it is.
Yep. A few months ago.

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Post by Brendocon » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:27 am

Aha. Well, that makes thematic sense in the grand scheme of things. Can't help but suspect it was all a bit **** in the execution, though. Because I have faith in Jeph Loeb.

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Post by Professor Smooth » Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:08 am

Brendocon wrote:Aha. Well, that makes thematic sense in the grand scheme of things. Can't help but suspect it was all a bit **** in the execution, though. Because I have faith in Jeph Loeb.
Because of the never-ending nature of comic books, I kind of dislike it. A change like that simply can not stick. Nor can a character like that stay dead. So, years from now, you'll either have the character doing something and in the back of your mind, you'll be be thinking, "This guy used to be a red version of The Hulk." Or worse, another character will bring it up, and he'll just go, "Urgh, don't remind me."

It's necessary, of course, but the incredible amount of major life (and WORLD) altering events that characters have to just "get past," takes a toll on longtime fans. And those are fans that none of the publishers of said long-running series can afford to lose en masse.

That said, is anybody reading Highland Laddie? I can't put my finger on why, but I'm loving the hell out of it!

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Post by snarl » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:55 pm

I read that!

Just because it's a boys spinoff.

I love the coarse language and all the killings (It's wins Predator 2 for killings) but also really like the Hughie / Starlight stuff.

I'm "gay" for things like that.

Which is probably how I managed to read pretty much all of Ultimate Spider-Man in about 5 days.

tbh though, I've had enough of the buildup and Hughie's mates, I just want the ******* ruck to start. Which has to be issue 4 really, doesn't it?

*also, on your point about the long termness of superhero / TF comics, and them never having closure, I agree.

With TFs, if they set a ******* 50 / 60 issue limit, they've got more than enough ******* time / characters to do something good and avoid the old "oh, yeah, I had my robo-cock shot off by that bloke, but although it really hurt at the time, it's all water under the bridge now.

Case in point: Time Wars.

"Yeah, so loads of our buddies are dead and that... thanks for saving the day, even though we're sworn enemies...

So...

I'll let you go, we can have a cigar - [composite word including 'f*ck'] all our dead mates, never like em anyway... we never mention it and we can start kicking [composite word including 'f*ck'] out of each other again next week?"

That's basically what Prime says to Shockwave isn't it.
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Post by Best First » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:17 pm

more or less qord for word i believe
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Post by bumblemusprime » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:21 pm

Marvel has brought back Thunderstrike.

******* Thunderstrike!

I used to read this book. DeFalco's not bad on plot, though all of his dialogue seems to have been copted from bad comic cliches that even Furman wouldn't touch in 1988. Ron Frenz's artwork is really pretty damn cool.

But for [composite word including 'f*ck']'s ******* ****** sake, why the [composite word including 'f*ck'] would Marvel bring back ******* Thunderstrike and we still haven't gotten a revived Spider-Man 2099 by Peter David?
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Post by Best First » Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:25 pm

This is quite a good list;

http://www.empireonline.com/features/30 ... have-read/

not perfect, but not bad, i agreed with about 75% of it.
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Post by bumblemusprime » Sat Dec 11, 2010 2:26 pm

Had way too much fun with this one:

http://www.intergalacticmedicineshow.co ... rticle=040
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Post by Shanti418 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:20 pm

bumblemusprime wrote:Had way too much fun with this one:

http://www.intergalacticmedicineshow.co ... rticle=040
Indeed. Not sure how much traffic your site has, but I guarantee you that epic poem deserves to be seen by every fanboy on the Net. I always wondered why painting Easter Eggs on St. Patrick's Day resulted in a small temporal explosion.
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Post by bumblemusprime » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:40 pm

Pass it on, sir. Start emailing it around and spread the rumor that it was written by Grant Morrison.
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Post by Yaya » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:08 pm

bumblemusprime wrote:Had way too much fun with this one:

http://www.intergalacticmedicineshow.co ... rticle=040
Nice.

Particularly enjoyed Quakes rocked the core of the space-time continuum
(You know, nothing rhymes with "the space-time continuum.")
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Post by Yaya » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:39 pm

Professor Smooth wrote:Darkwing Duck's 4-issue mini-series concluded this week. Amazingly. Considering everything that happened by the end of the book, I'm wondering if a title change might be in store for future issues.

Awesome Darkwing Duck lines:

I am the termite that devours your floorboards
I am the raspberry seed you can’t floss out
I am the itch you cannot reach
I am the hairball that clogs your drains
I am the smoke that smokes Smoked Oysters
I am the ten dollar service charge on all returned checks
I am the low ratings that cancel your program



And Jack, I'm still reading 20th Century Boys. I think I'm enjoying more than anything I read in the past ten years and it's Urasawa's best work, IMO.
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Post by bumblemusprime » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:56 pm

Yaya wrote:
bumblemusprime wrote:Had way too much fun with this one:

http://www.intergalacticmedicineshow.co ... rticle=040
Nice.

Particularly enjoyed Quakes rocked the core of the space-time continuum
(You know, nothing rhymes with "the space-time continuum.")
Someone pointed out to me that "ad infinitum" might have done the job. I'm not sure if I should have avoided the obvious "nothing rhymes with" joke now. I mean, it made Yaya laugh, but he's Yaya... ;)
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Post by Jack Cade » Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:56 am

Can't wait to get started on 21st Century Boys but want to finish Pluto first.

Good stuff there, Bumblemus! Kept your metre much better than most spoof poems and threw in some clever rhymes too!

'Ad infinitum' has the wrong rhythm. You want something like 'compendium' or do a cheeky 'onto 'em'.

'Albumem' (ie. egg white)?
'Won't you, mum'?

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Post by bumblemusprime » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:43 am

ha ha ha ha!

I'm glad you thought the meter worked. I am terrible at hearing iams. I know that my iams are off all over in here, but "The Night Before Christmas" isn't in perfect pentameter. A lot of perfect pentameter covers a few small flaws.
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Post by Jack Cade » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:17 am

'Perfect' metre is very rare, and also kind of boring because it betrays the artificiality of the piece. Most poets break up a steady flow of iambs or trochees with the odd anapest or dactyl, or something like it, to maintain something of the illusion of the unpredictable patterns of regular speech. Singers/lyricists do it too!
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Post by Yaya » Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:36 pm

"But the Costa story featuring Starscream? Fantastic! This guy is "The One", I just know it, just from these few pages. "--Yaya, who is never wrong.

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Post by Best First » Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:26 pm

Bat-iman!

Actually - that sounds wrong.

What a load of right wing balls.

Anyway - more importantly, is everyone reading Uncanny X-Force? Cus it is ****ING BRRRRRILLIANT.

That is all.
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Post by Yaya » Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:29 pm

Best First wrote:Bat-iman!
:lol:

That made my day.
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Post by Optimus Prime Rib » Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:19 am

Best First wrote:Bat-iman!

Actually - that sounds wrong.

What a load of right wing balls.

Anyway - more importantly, is everyone reading Uncanny X-Force? Cus it is ****ING BRRRRRILLIANT.

That is all.
Need to pick up #4 when I get paid. Also I am pissed that I cant find/catch up on X-23. Those two were my hope for all things Marvel Mutant.

Love me some Uncanny X-Force.

Cant decide what is my favorite part about it. Its kind of a toss up between Fantomex and Deadpools reasons for being there (money, but remember, its different when Fantomex does it) and the Psylocke and Angel/Archangel relationship
Her comment about his "amazing luck with women" was awesome.
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Post by Best First » Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:08 am

I only got #3 yesterday as it sat at the post office for a while.

The one pagers on each of the Horsemen were ace as were they way they were taken down.

Agree about Psylocke's comment.

And yeah DP and Fantomex in one place. Kingly.

Yaya - you can have that one :)
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Post by Professor Smooth » Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:54 pm

Hickman's Fantastic Four has been a great read. It's maybe the first time I've really "bought" Galactus.
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Post by Sunyavadin » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:56 pm

Yeah, the moment I saw Deadpool and Fantomex in the lineup in the final few pages of Second Coming, I added it to my standing order.

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Post by Best First » Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:12 pm

Professor Smooth wrote:Hickman's Fantastic Four has been a great read. It's maybe the first time I've really "bought" Galactus.
i've enjoyed it but i think he is a bit self indulgent in places - his story telling is clever and but in a way that i am not entirely sure always suits a monthly book.
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Post by Predabot » Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:11 am

Anybody reading Hickman's S.H.I.E.L.D? Every issue literally fills me with glee, of the good kind! :D Every time I read a new issue I see a new plot-detail, or figure out an old plot-point. Nuance upon nuance, cleverness and ambition at every turn.

Best mainstream book out there!

Put Hickman on bloody Marvel Cosmic, and watch the sparks fly faster than tachyons.
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Professor Smooth wrote:Hickman's Fantastic Four has been a great read. It's maybe the first time I've really "bought" Galactus.
i've enjoyed it but i think he is a bit self indulgent in places - his story telling is clever and but in a way that i am not entirely sure always suits a monthly book.
This actually sounds very similar to some of the critique that I have heard mentioned against Grant Morrison, on various online resources. I'd say there is a bit of Morrison-inspiration visible in Hickman's work, which is probably why he has become my fav' among the break-out writers of Marvel/DC comics in recent years.

I think I can sort of see what you mean, but I will have to courteously disagree with you. The cleverness is a bit different, and at times much greater than what most readers of traditional monthly U.S-style comics are used to, that is true.

But that does not mean that he is not highly, highly suited to be on a long-running series, and spinning his magic. Hickman is simply doing a NEW type of monthly comic. One that expects a little bit more of its readers, that encourages the reader to delve deeper into the stories, and stick out trough all the nuances, and eventually reap quite the reward for his efforts.

He doesn't write down to the reader, he writes very, very highly up, and encourages you to take a leap and keep up. :)

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Post by Yaya » Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:08 am

Predabot wrote:Anybody reading Hickman's S.H.I.E.L.D? Every issue literally fills me with glee, of the good kind! :D Every time I read a new issue I see a new plot-detail, or figure out an old plot-point. Nuance upon nuance, cleverness and ambition at every turn.

Best mainstream book out there!
Well, I'm glad somebody understands what the hell is going on in that title. Cause he lost me around the time when Galileo was copulating with an alien...on panel. If ever there was a 'WTF' moment in a comic, that was it.

I have to go with BF on this, he's gotten too self-indulgent. Needs to reign things back in. In the case of S.H.I.E.L.D., he needs to stay off the drugs. In Fantastic Four, he needs to tighten up the plot lines up a bit. He starts too many dangling threads and just keeps adding to them.

He's obviously a brilliant writer, but needs to get back to Earth so the rest of us can enjoy it.
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Post by Predabot » Fri Jan 28, 2011 3:46 pm

Yaya wrote: Well, I'm glad somebody understands what the hell is going on in that title. Cause he lost me around the time when Galileo was copulating with an alien...on panel. If ever there was a 'WTF' moment in a comic, that was it.

I have to go with BF on this, he's gotten too self-indulgent. Needs to reign things back in. In the case of S.H.I.E.L.D., he needs to stay off the drugs. In Fantastic Four, he needs to tighten up the plot lines up a bit. He starts too many dangling threads and just keeps adding to them.

He's obviously a brilliant writer, but needs to get back to Earth so the rest of us can enjoy it.
It's actually pretty simple to understand, once you get into Hickman's mindset.

The organization of SHIELD with Nick Fury is created by the former organization of SHIELD that was founded by Imhotep in ancient Egypt, trough an imagination-suggestion machine, that effects the subconscious of whoever it is directed at. This machine is featured in the background of nearly every issue, it's one of the ways that old shield controlled the world.

Old shield in itself is the result of a temporal paradox, wherein the shiny glowing man that appears troughout all of history to ask geniuses to join SHIELD ( such as Imhotep) is actually the grown and fully evolved Leonid, the kid that serves as the readers PoV. The reason SHIELD cries out" THIS IS NOT HOW THE WORLD ENDS!!" and always have faith that they will save the world, is because they KNOW that the Earth isn't doomed yet. Adult Leonid exists on a multi-temporal level, that has no doubt occured after he grew old enough to live until the End of the Universe ( which I suppose means Leonids best pal is Mr Immortal from GLA...).

Leonid himself is the son of Galileo and a female Deviant ( genetically unstable human off-shoots created by Celestials). I'd say some of his weird cosmic powers are the result of Galileo's dabbling with the Deviants forbidden quantum-magic.
Leonid was however taken from the 18th century at the point in time when Galileo killed his mother and the Deviant colony, by Night Machine/Nikola Tesla.

( I had him figured out as Nikola Tesla by #2 because of his moustache and the fact that he was the only multi-super genius from history that was missing from the story, and of course the fact that he is powered by some type of tesla-generators)

Tesla then brought him back home to the 40's, and raised him. Tesla was of course instructed to do so by the adult Leonid, since had he been raised by Galileo and the corrupted SHIELD, the world would have ended in chaos.

I could go on with even more story-details, but I'm guessing everybody has had quite enough by now...



I think I must have a differently organized brain than the majority of peeps online, because it does appear as if I belong to a minority that can actually see the patterns in Hickman's writing.

I think I've got an idea why that is tho, but it's going to sound very self-indulgent and self-gratulatory, but who gives a sh*t?

When I read Hickmans stuff... it's like we think in a similar way. I'm involved in world-building of a comic here in Sweden, ( got a couple of my first stories on their way to become real comics, yay!) and some of my ideas, regarding use of non-linear time and space in the story-telling, theoretical science and metaphysics, and what I myself call "inept quantum-theory" are actually similar to some of Hickman's own ideas.

Reading his comics, is therefore incredibly inspiring. The man is cooler than school!

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