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Post by spiderfrommars » Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:02 pm

So the TVM's Season 26? Oh dear.
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spiderfrommars wrote:Full's Circle's wicked. The ones directed by Peter Grimwade seem to be good 'uns.
The ones he wrote on the other hand...
Mawdryn Undead? :(

And Planet of Fire at least looked nice. ;)

As for Time Flight... is it just me or is the first episode fairly decent? After that it goes... well, ****.

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Post by inflatable dalek » Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:17 pm

Bouncelot wrote:He does? :???: The only time I can think of him saying something like that is when he thought that fans would eventually end up calling it Season 27.
I should clarify- On all official BBC documentation this was Doctor Who Series 1 (and on the Christmas Invasion preview on the DVD the crew are in rather sweet Doctor Who II T-shirts), and Rose is episode one. But RTD's said it's much easier for everyone else to call it series 27 and episode 69somthingorother to avoid confusion.

[quote="spiderfrommars]So the TVM's Season 26? Oh dear.[/quote]

Nah, the 26th run is the final BBC year back in 1989, ending with Survival. The TV Movie doesn't count as it's own season anymore than The Five Doctors is series 21.
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Post by spiderfrommars » Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:26 pm

Isn't Five Doctors sort of Season 20?

Everything needs a place! ;)

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Post by inflatable dalek » Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:39 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:Isn't Five Doctors sort of Season 20?

Everything needs a place! ;)
Stricktly speaking it's a one-of between seasons special. Though in a hyperthetical boxset it would probably go in with 20 as it would nicely fill the four episdoe gap there left by the loss of the Dalek story. :)
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Post by Jetfire » Sun Dec 25, 2005 9:26 pm

Bouncelot wrote: Well, at least they agree that stuff between 1977 and 1987 is crap.
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Post by inflatable dalek » Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:09 pm

Did anyone catch the TV Movie on UK Gold over Crimbo? I love the fact it was originally hacked to pieces by the beeb for being to violent (even on the video...), but now it gets shown at ten in the mourning unedited.
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Post by spiderfrommars » Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:26 pm

Whats the chance of an RTD multi-doctor story?

I'm thinking: zilch.

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Post by inflatable dalek » Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:43 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:I'm thinking: zilch.
Davison, McCoy and Baker2 would be up for it at least... (And from the Beebs point of view, geting Mr. ITV Davison into one of their shows again would be a nice coup).
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Post by Bouncelot » Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:35 pm

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spiderfrommars wrote:I'm thinking: zilch.
Davison, McCoy and Baker2 would be up for it at least... (And from the Beebs point of view, geting Mr. ITV Davison into one of their shows again would be a nice coup).
But it really doesn't fit RTD's stated style. On the other hand, Sarah Jane and K9...

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spiderfrommars wrote:I'm thinking: zilch.
Davison, McCoy and Baker2 would be up for it at least... (And from the Beebs point of view, geting Mr. ITV Davison into one of their shows again would be a nice coup).
I'm thinking McGann as the most obvious contender. Certainly deserves it.

McCoy's in good nick. Baker2 and Davison seem to have let themselves go a bit tho!

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Post by inflatable dalek » Sat Dec 31, 2005 11:52 am

spiderfrommars wrote: McCoy's in good nick. Baker2 and Davison seem to have let themselves go a bit tho!
It's odd how much younger McCoy looks when wearing the costume (as on last years Children in Need...). Davison has an advantage in that he's not really been of our TV screens in the last twenty years, so we're more used to how he looks now, poor old Colin would be a bit of a shock though. But then, Pertwee and Troughton were hardly spring chickens when they last appeared.
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Post by Legion » Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:13 pm

Davidson and McCoy could pull it off i think, Davidson's not changed too much apart from thinning on top, so a bit of a wig might be in order (same as McCoy really). ColDoc would be a shock to the kiddies tho i think. Shame really as i've warmed to his version a hell of a lot lately (helped in no small way by his Big Finish portrayl). TomDoc is never going to happen again, ever. McCoy would leap at the chance. Davidson would be interested i think, if it was a good enough story. Not sure where McGann stands on it. He's willing enough to do the audios, so who knows.

Don't think there's much of a chance of one happening anytime soon. I think RTD's going to concenrate on Tennant for a while, who knows tho, maybe nearing the time of Tennant's future departure he might think about slipping one in. Maybe by then EccsDoc will be up for a bit of a cameo too. ;)

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Post by Bouncelot » Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:30 pm

Who is this "Davidson" of whom you speak? I think Colin could get away with it if he went on a diet and wore a wig.

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Post by Legion » Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:01 pm

Bouncelot wrote:Who is this "Davidson" of whom you speak?
Bah, didn't you know Peter had changed his surname? He'd got fed up with people getting it wrong...
Bouncelot wrote:I think Colin could get away with it if he went on a diet and wore a wig.
It would certainly help, but i think the poor chap is looking his age now. It would be like TomDoc putting on a wig and pretending he was 30 years younger.

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Post by inflatable dalek » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:11 pm

Bouncelot wrote:Who is this "Davidson" of whom you speak? I think Colin could get away with it if he went on a diet and wore a wig.
Why Peter Davidson of course, the chap Doctor Who: A Marvel Monthly proudly proclaimed had replaced Tom Baker in the role. Surely the official magazine wouldn't make a mistake? :eek:

i think they'd have to give Colin pleanty of advanced notice about his diet... Unless they pass it of as being down to the same Pie Eating Anomally that so badly affected Troi and Riker in the last episode of Enterprise...
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Post by Legion » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:22 am

inflatable dalek wrote:Unless they pass it of as being down to the same Pie Eating Anomally that so badly affected Troi and Riker in the last episode of Enterprise...
To be fair, that only affected Riker... however am amazed they squeezed Troi back into one of those old 'figure hugging' uniforms see as her breasts seem to have magically* doubled in size. ;)



*or not so magically...

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Post by inflatable dalek » Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:17 pm

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inflatable dalek wrote:To be fair, that only affected Riker... however am amazed they squeezed Troi back into one of those old 'figure hugging' uniforms see as her breasts seem to have magically* doubled in size. ;)
yes, but Riker's were bigger...
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Post by Legion » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:40 pm

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Legion wrote:To be fair, that only affected Riker... however am amazed they squeezed Troi back into one of those old 'figure hugging' uniforms see as her breasts seem to have magically* doubled in size. ;)
yes, but Riker's were bigger...
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Post by inflatable dalek » Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:36 am

Just caught Curse of Fenric on UK Gold- Though I've seen it with the DVD comentary this was the first time I've properly watched the broadcast version... Boy it benafits from the extensions made to the VHS/Shinny disc editions. Charecters just seemed to jump all over the place with no rhyme or reason...
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Post by spiderfrommars » Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:46 pm

Yeah, the Special Edition is swish.

I'm quite for the idea of buttering up old episodes to make 'em look nice and shiny.

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Post by inflatable dalek » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:05 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:I'm quite for the idea of buttering up old episodes to make 'em look nice and shiny.
The the CGI in the Ark In Space DVD is generally awfull, the modern day version of using a washing up liquid bottle. And they don't even replace the worst shoot, the Wriim crawling over the hull...
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Post by Legion » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:57 pm

yeah, they did a much better job in dalek invasion of earth, much nicer.
but they did too good a job of cleaning the eps up in places, you can now quite blatently see that background daleks are cardboard cutouts, whereas before you couldn't really make 'em out that clearly! :lol:

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Post by spiderfrommars » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:58 pm

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spiderfrommars wrote:I'm quite for the idea of buttering up old episodes to make 'em look nice and shiny.
The the CGI in the Ark In Space DVD is generally awfull, the modern day version of using a washing up liquid bottle. And they don't even replace the worst shoot, the Wriim crawling over the hull...
Yeah, that was a waste of time. Best to keep any CGI shots subtle, or not to bother at all if you're keeping nasty shots like that one in.

But it gives stuff like Revelation of the Daleks a nice presentation.

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Post by Denyer » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:45 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:I'm quite for the idea of buttering up old episodes to make 'em look nice and shiny.
Sometimes, yeah. It's better (IMO) if the original version is also on the disc, to avoid the kind of revisionist tosh Lucas has been purveying...

And it can be done awfully, as with Red Dwarf.

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Post by Legion » Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:12 pm

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spiderfrommars wrote:I'm quite for the idea of buttering up old episodes to make 'em look nice and shiny.
Sometimes, yeah. It's better (IMO) if the original version is also on the disc, to avoid the kind of revisionist tosh Lucas has been purveying...

And it can be done awfully, as with Red Dwarf.
very true, and i think in all Who cases, they are! which is nice.

don't ever ever mention the travesty that was committed to Red Dwarf ever again... :(

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Post by spiderfrommars » Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:44 am

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spiderfrommars wrote:I'm quite for the idea of buttering up old episodes to make 'em look nice and shiny.
Sometimes, yeah. It's better (IMO) if the original version is also on the disc, to avoid the kind of revisionist tosh Lucas has been purveying...
Problem is, Lucas just got it so wrong.

Interesting that Spielberg's made the original version of ET available as well as the souped up one.

With Doctor Who it seems respect is paid at all times to the originals, and CGI effects are only available when you select an option in special features (personally I'd prefer it if they played the CGI effects automatically and you had to select to watch the original but there you go).


I thought they could have done a better job with Web Planet tho. The picture looked great but they kept in bugs bumping into cameras and all that noise as they ran across the stages. I found it very very hard to suspend disbelief.

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Post by Legion » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:04 pm

Heh, i got Web Planet for Xmas... i'd never seen it before that. It's a brave little story. Fails in the realism department really, but hey.
spiderfrommars wrote: I thought they could have done a better job with Web Planet tho. The picture looked great but they kept in bugs bumping into cameras and all that noise as they ran across the stages.
I think those sort of changes would be considered too much of an interference with the episodes.
Next thing you know they'd be hiding Katy Manning's knickers and redubbing Hartnell's fluffed lines! ;)

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Post by inflatable dalek » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:08 pm

If you had any belief left to suspend by that point in The Web Planet you're a better man than I Sir.

The new ending to Earthshock is my favorite adition so far- anythings better than a lightbulb going fzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt to represent the end of the dinosaurs and the death of a regular.
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Post by spiderfrommars » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:43 pm

inflatable dalek wrote:If you had any belief left to suspend by that point in The Web Planet you're a better man than I Sir.
Suspending disbelief's never been a problem for me. :)

"The spaceship looks like a model." Well maybe thats because the spaceship does look like a model.

"The monster looks rubber." Well maybe because that species of monster looks rubbery.

But with the Web Planet with my best will in the world I can't see beyond the men dressed as bugs hobbling around stages.

I think the vaseline effect is cool and I really respect the ambition on show. But a few nips and tucks on the DVD could have helped sell the idea more, bringing it closer to the original vision (or something).

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Post by inflatable dalek » Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:49 pm

The real problem is that William Harnel clearly can't be bothered to suspend his disbelief either... He's rarely that strong on his lines but in TWB he's off his tree.
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