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Post by Shanti418 » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:54 pm

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Shanti418 wrote:the "I haven't completly ruled us out yet" line is totallly evil.
And the best response probably: "Well, I pretty much have. For now, certainly." Not spite, just calmly and firmly indicating you're not going to be f*cked around with dangled carrots.
well, brillaintly, when i referenced it, she didn't remember saying it.

:eyebrow:

sigh.
Of course, my friend. Of course she didn't. They can do that, because they're women. :cry:

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Post by Señior's Covenant » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:02 pm

I don't really see why she would remember it. When someone has breaking-up-with-the-other on the mind it's usually just things they feel would make it hurt less that they say (even when it still hurts like a mf). Basically all this amounts to is she wasn't the one. The more you dwell on it, the more it will hurt. Time may wound all heels, but it also heals all wounds so just give it time good sir. Trust me, the faster you force yourself to move on the better you will be. Break routine or something. Go out and do something you would enjoy, but normally wouldn't do on a regular basis. Don't dwell on her, she's likely not dwelling on you. I feel like an arse for saying such, but it's likely. [/end simply reiterating some points made prior more than once in a simple attempt to remind BF of some advice given by others so he will hopefully not feel down]

As well, while since I stopped drinking I don't normally flat out recommend it, there's always just getting slobbering drunk for at least a week.
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Post by Denyer » Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:25 am

Shanti418 wrote:They can do that, because they're women. :cry:
Generalistic stereotypes are bad no matter which side of them you're standing on.

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Post by Shanti418 » Thu Jan 20, 2005 5:56 am

True, and I in no way was trying to intimate that all women emulate that sort of behavior. Rather, what I was trying to speak to is the enigmatic power that women hold over all men when said men have said woman in their heart. It's love. It causes you to do thing, even small things like focus in on a single statement while simultaneously letting the subject slip away with a few words when you confront her about it.

Still though, I understand your trepidation about stereotypes. I have a BA in Sociology, and while the school of thought that I was brought up in really seeked to view the world with the idea that all gender and racial stereotypes were false and only creations that we percieve to help us more easily understand our reality, I think that view is only good in a theoretical world, and the real world tends to be a bit more messy.


BTW, I really like your American History essays, esp. the New Deal one. It was quite interesting to read about American History and presumably what they teach you about American History from a different perspective.
American History here is basically smoothed over propagandistic deification of a patriotic sort, at least until you reach the latter portion of college. Good stuff, though. Your essay, not the propaganda.

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Post by Eline » Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:52 am

Shanti418 wrote:Rather, what I was trying to speak to is the enigmatic power that women hold over all men when said men have said woman in their heart.
This must be the same power that men have over women...

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Post by Denyer » Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:41 pm

Shanti418 wrote:I think that view is only good in a theoretical world
So long as we continue to meet and interact with people who don't cleave to the stereotypes, examination and contestation will be worthwhile... unless we want a world back that complains about uppity niggers or considers women chattel.

There're a few levels of that; as silently implied, collective and received opinion may be that women 'get away' with selective memories and changes of mind because of their gender. Indeed, it's easy to slip into considering an individual (or the individuals of our experience) as indicative of a whole. Hence all Scots are mean, all Welsh are sly, sheep-buggering thieves and all Americans arseholes.

One thing seems pretty certain: repetition ingrains things culturally. They don't improve unless we put in the effort to cudgel them out of usage.

Unfortunately this leaves standup comedians a bit stranded, but they'll cope...

...crap, where was I? Um, yeah: I know plenty of women who aren't two-faced, fickle self-justifiers who only register what they want to—certainly the majority of the time—and more than a few men who are. People in general are gits. Especially when it comes to looking at their own behaviour in relationships.
Shanti418 wrote:BTW, I really like your American History essays, esp. the New Deal one. It was quite interesting to read about American History and presumably what they teach you about American History from a different perspective. American History here is basically smoothed over propagandistic deification of a patriotic sort, at least until you reach the latter portion of college.
College being what sort of age? (We have secondary school 11-16, 6th form college 17-18, typically university 19-21.) Ours tends to be a bit blunt and unfocused until college, too, although it's in the national character to scourge politicians.

That essay's a really good example of why not to knock off 2000+ words the evening before an assignment, as it's basically an overview cribbed from three semi-credited texts with some personal opinion thrown in. With appalling sentence structure. Stick in some more conditional modifiers and I don't think there's much I wouldn't stand by, though.

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Post by Best First » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:49 am

so anyway... she finally moved out on sat.

Glad its done but as weekends go... pretty crappy.

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Post by Shanti418 » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:25 pm

That's the good thing about weekends: no matter how crappy or how great, there's only five days 'till the next one.

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Post by Best First » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:08 pm

would anyone mind if i archived this?
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Post by Kaylee » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:12 pm

So some day we cal all look back on it and laugh?

{starts walking away}

{turns round and looks back}

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!! :twisted:

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Post by Best First » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:12 pm

something like that...
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Post by Kaylee » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:16 pm

^_^

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Post by Obfleur » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:20 pm

Best First wrote:would anyone mind if i archived this?
Does this mean putting it in the Tomb of relics?
Can't believe I'm still here.

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Post by Best First » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:25 pm

yep.
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Post by Shanti418 » Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:34 pm

Sounds good. So looking back on this time in your life from the perch of 6 months in the future, Best, what do you think?
Best First wrote:I thought we could just meander between making well thought out points, being needlessly immature, provocative and generalist, then veer into caring about constructive debate and make a few valid points, act civil for a bit, then lower the tone again, then act offended when we get called on it, then dictate what it is and isn't worth debating, reinterpret a few of my own posts through a less offensive lens, then jaunt down whatever other path our seemingly volatile mood took us in.

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Post by Best First » Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:02 pm

i think i'm not going to make up my mind yet.

could be worse i suppose.

still wish we could have worked it out.
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Post by Pissin' Poonani » Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:14 pm

Try and apply 'Sod's law' to your problem. Work hard, indulge yourself, enjoy the company of your friends, date other women. Once you're happy and have moved on, it should be right about then that she'll want you back.

We all love you mate-not the same I know, but we're all here should you need to unload.

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