STARWARS EPISODE III TRAILER!!!!

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:36 pm

What the hell is up with all the flashy lights, and bleepy-sounds and stuff?
The new Star Wars Movies are like a rave disco or something.
What happenes to all that technology, cause everything isn't shiny and bleepy in the old movies.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:17 pm

Jetfire wrote:Han Solo was as posistive as the next guy in Jedi. Obi Wan in Phanton and Anakin in 'clones' were more cynical than "Smily Han" in Jedi.

I don't buy that. Yes Han was definitely watered down in ROTJ (or more specifically, his relationship with Leia was) but he was still typically cynical and could eat Anakin and the Phantom Menace Jedis for breakfast.

In ROTJ:

"Tell that slimy piece of worm ridden filth, he'll get no such pleasure from us!"

To Chewie: "Great... always thinking with your stomach."

To Luke:"Then I'll do it real quiet like!"

To Leia: "Could you tell Luke, is that who you could tell?"

"Great, I've been out of it for a little while and everybody's getting delusions of grandeur!"

His patronising attitude when Luke says he's taken care of everything.

Plus every single line of dialogue to Threepio.

And its not just his cynicism we're missing. No-one in the new movies is as cool as Han, simple as.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:23 pm

spiderfrommars wrote: No-one in the new movies is as cool as Han, simple as.

They wouldn't have that problem if Lucas had taken me up on my offer to play Chewie in the prequels. He could have saved a bundle on make-up costs, too...

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:33 pm

Han rocks!

Auntie Slag · Post by **Auntie Slag** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:55 pm

Has anyone read the bit about how some woman wrote the Empire Strikes Back, and she either died or was fired or something. Lucas kept the script, gave it to Kasdan or somebody who then gave it to somebody else who then went on holiday and then invented the question mark (Dr. Evil)?

Um... but whoever ended up fiddling with the script to produce the ESB we know, actually kept all this woman's Han and Leia stuff intact. To me it seems like all their best lines therefore had nothing to do with either Lucas, Kasdan, Gerschwinger, Nerdlinger or the tooth fairy.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:08 pm

Was this woman's name Gertrude Perkins, perchance?

Auntie Slag · Post by **Auntie Slag** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:34 pm

That tall, ginger haired rutting welshman with a beard like a rhodedendron?

Yes, that's her.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:58 pm

Brend isn't Welsh, is he

Auntie Slag · Post by **Auntie Slag** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:00 pm

Certainly is. He used to terrify the Jones's suffolks with his close harmony singing.

Commander Shockwav · Post by **Commander Shockwav** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:27 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:So as a big SW fan from birth, why do I watch the new films and feel nothing for them?

I can watch the old films, I think the old films even look better, they have some sort of grit to them, the characters just seem more fun, more interesting and alluring. the action sequences whilst not as big as recent films still have more character to them.

And finnaly the script just seems much better, how many lines do ppl quote from the old films and not the new ones? they seem etched in my memory for good reason, the new films is going on about meticholrines or somthing - **** that.

Lucas get my money because I got to the cinema in vain hope that the each new film might be as good as the old 3... it hasnt even come close yet.

And Han-Solo is fantastic.

I have to agree with practically everything you have said above.

I think the biggest problem with these new movies where Lucus really screwed up is that he failed to give us any endearing characters or characters that really kept our attention. The problem has never been about special effects.

There is no Han Solo. There is no Alec Guiness. Even Mark Hamill exuded more emotion and character than the robotic performances of Natialie Portman, Ewan McGreggor (in the first one, at least), Samuel Jackson, etc. Hell, even Yoda acted so damn tight, it was like they all had sticks shoved up their Jedi asses. I was like "Please, somebody, smile or tell a witty joke, please!"

I think Lucus failed to understand this and kept trying to make this better by adding more and more breath taking special effects. I think this was his biggest mistake.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:44 pm

Auntie Slag wrote:Has anyone read the bit about how some woman wrote the Empire Strikes Back, and she either died or was fired or something. Lucas kept the script, gave it to Kasdan or somebody who then gave it to somebody else who then went on holiday and then invented the question mark (Dr. Evil)?

Leigh Brackett. She died after writing her draft. I think she deserves credit for a lot of the Han/Leia stuff, but I think Kasdan's pretty good with the one liners (as Raiders of the Lost Ark proved). But both were served by a great storyline - in those days Lucas' ideas were great.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:47 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:Leigh Brackett.

Not Gertrude Perkins, then? A shame. I'm sure the signatures would have matched, had we not burnt the manuscript.

"You are so blind! You so do not understand! You weren't there at the beginning - You don't know how good it was, how important. This is it for you, this jumped up, firework display of a toy advert!"

??

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 5:31 pm

Isn't that last quote from 'Spaced'? the first one of the 2nd series as I recall.

PowermasterPrime · Post by **PowermasterPrime** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 7:49 pm

That's from BlackAdder the 3rd is it not?

Post by **Best First** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:19 am

spot on Dave...

"I've had a few things to work through"

"With your girlfriend?"

"No. George Lucas."

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:06 pm

FInnaly got to watch it - I could help but be excited by it - sent a tingle through my spine - pant wetting!

Please be good!

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 7:52 am

The yellow text that starts off each movie.

angloconvoy · Post by **angloconvoy** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 3:57 pm

eps 1 and 2? Balls. Seriously. Ep 1 was just a poor rehash with ropey racial stereotyping, Ep 2 lookined like panto for the start, then had ropey love story intercut with boring and flimsy politics (and Jar Jar was made responsible for the emperor's rise, thus imparting that spacky fool with more power than anyone else in the series) plus terrible acting, and I'm relatively sure that some of these guys can act. The second one was just barely saved as entertaining fluff by some good action, but I could never call it a good film. And the first one? The highlight was the darth maul batlle at the end, which they intercut with bollocks anakin looking for the big button on his ship that said "plot device".

I've not watched the ep 3 trailer yet, but given the way Lucas operates these days, Im guessing those of you who think its going to be any good are prime examples of the triumph of hope over experience.

Oh, and I don't buy the, its ok vader is small, he's a young man theory, cause he's mean to be getting cyborged up by then. And his mechanical bits wouldn't grown naturally. Maybe Lucas will bulk him up usuing CGI? And paint him pretty colours so the kis don't get too scared.

I'll still go to the cinema and see it though. *sighs*

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:39 am

Mindless ape. I bet you conplain about all these brainwashed teens running about thinking that they are so "Kwel" as well

Anyways:

Get them while their hot

Nebbie · Post by **Nebbie** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:53 am

Oh hell yeah!!

The only reason I like Star Wars is the lightsaber battles anyway! Oh, and Natalie Portman's hot.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:30 am

I wouldnt kick her out of bed..

Post by **Best First** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:09 am

i'm terribly sorry - i've just cum.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:20 am

New issue of Empire has info and pics from the new movie if anyone's interested.

Post by **Best First** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:29 am

yeah - Mcgregor looks kind of cool.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:35 am

I think that they should completely overhaul Episode III.

They should...

- get rid of the aliens and lasers
- shuffle the cast
- set it all on board a tiny ship
- let Joss Whedon write it
- call it Serenity
- release it in September

... oh wait...

Post by **Best First** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:09 am

Brendocon wrote:I think that they should completely overhaul Episode III.

They should...

- get rid of the aliens and lasers
- shuffle the cast
- set it all on board a tiny ship
- let Joss Whedon write it
- call it Serenity
- release it in September

... oh wait...

dude you gotta stop nicking my material...

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:18 am

Best First wrote:dude you gotta stop micking my material...

Micking?

Mick
verb
Pilfer unashamedly.
Derived from "Brad Mick."

I don't Mick. I "draw inspiration from" when it's appropriate. Besides, you don't see me complaining that every man and their uncle is riffing off my "mad brick" line, do ya?

Post by **Best First** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:57 pm

i see that all the time. all the time.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:34 pm

Brendocon wrote:
Best First wrote:dude you gotta stop micking my material...
Micking?

Mick
verb
Pilfer unashamedly.
Derived from "Brad Mick."
I don't Mick. I "draw inspiration from" when it's appropriate. Besides, you don't see me complaining that every man and their uncle is riffing off my "mad brick" line, do ya?

none of my uncles have used Mad Brick..

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:11 pm

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:
Brendocon wrote:
Best First wrote:dude you gotta stop micking my material...
Micking?

Mick
verb
Pilfer unashamedly.
Derived from "Brad Mick."
I don't Mick. I "draw inspiration from" when it's appropriate. Besides, you don't see me complaining that every man and their uncle is riffing off my "mad brick" line, do ya?
none of my uncles have used Mad Brick..

They have, they just don't use it when your around.....