Bush / Kerry

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:00 pm

BB&F was hilarious. Dead Ringers was pretty good, though the KKK stuff at the end was weak and unpredictable...

[edit] sorry, I meant predictable. Not unpredictable. Bah.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:07 pm

Brendocon wrote:"There is no evidence to link a young Michael Moore to the shooting of JFK, but can the fact that you are watching these two pieces of footage side by side really just be coincidence?"

Anyone else spot the blatant Red Dwarf footage?

Oh, and I think Bush will "win".

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:34 pm

I understand your pessimism, Best, but I have to, I want to believe that we Americans will pull our head out of the sand long enough to elect John Kerry.

Here's MY pessimism:

1) If Kerry wins, all the progress that people have made over the last four years towards being politically active, and organizing because Bush so blatantly pissed everyone off, will be lost because Joe Schmoe will think, "Ah, that's good, we got Bush out of office. I can go back to watching TV and playing with myself again and not bother with politics." And that's not good, because the US in particular (economy, iraq, terrorism, cultural civil war) and the world in general (povery, war, genocide, pollution, globalization, oncoming enviromental catastrophe) has got a LOT of problems and Kerry only slows or stop the US's bleeding.

And my optimism:

2) If Bush wins, our country is going to be so completly screwed and disjointed in four years that the US will be absolutely forced to look at its gluttenous, overconsuming, wasteful, privledged, morally bankrupt self in the mirror. And we might actually see some REAL change.

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 9:37 pm

Shanti418 wrote: And we might actually see some REAL change.

That, sadly, very sadly, would be the best thing for the country.

bobaprime85 · Post by **bobaprime85** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:36 pm

Shanti418 wrote:
2) If Bush wins, our country is going to be so completly screwed and disjointed in four years that the US will be absolutely forced to look at its gluttenous, overconsuming, wasteful, privledged, morally bankrupt self in the mirror. And we might actually see some REAL change.

Four more years of Bush? I'm having trouble getting through four more minutes!*

And my pessimistic side worries that in four more years there won't be anyone capable of running against the dictator-in-chief. [/]100%bitterness

*Copyright Michael Moore

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:39 pm

If Bush wins, I have a hard time NOT seeing Hillary Clinton as the next President, barring some massive escalation of the "War on Terror" which would lead Joe American to think that he couldn't trust a woman in these militaristic times.

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:07 am

bobaprime85 wrote: dictator-in-chief.

*Yellow flag*

Referee: Ignorance on the play, 85 Offense, 10 yards and loss of respect.

wideload · Post by **wideload** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:19 am

If Bush wins, I have a hard time NOT seeing Hillary Clinton as the next President, barring some massive escalation of the "War on Terror" which would lead Joe American to think that he couldn't trust a woman in these militaristic times.

I totally agree. I think it would be a great idea to have hillary as president. Do you think she would hire me as an intern?

Dark Link · Post by **Dark Link** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:20 am

Bush has won. The American people have proven they do not want to be liked by the rest of the world and are content with being hated by all.

wideload · Post by **wideload** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:39 am

Bush hasnt won yet. Cali gets a ton of electoral votes and hasnt been counted yet. Also florida is still undecided

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:52 am

wideload wrote:Bush hasnt won yet. Cali gets a ton of electoral votes and hasnt been counted yet. Also florida is still undecided

Cali is Kerry. Not a swing state. FL is showing Bush up by ~5% with ~50% reporting. Ohio showing Bush up by ~5.5% with 14.3% reporting.

Dark Link: Being liked by the rest of the world is not a primary concern of most Americans. This is not a popularity-with-the-world contest.

wideload · Post by **wideload** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:54 am

Florida is still totally undecided. The big urban centres have not been counted yet. I know cali is kerry, I meant it hasnt been counted in the total yet so it makes bush's lead look bigger than it is.

edit that looks like florida is probably going bush

Dark Link · Post by **Dark Link** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:09 am

Leatherneck wrote:

Dark Link: Being liked by the rest of the world is not a primary concern of most Americans. This is not a popularity-with-the-world contest.

Say that when you run out of allies and get ****** up by terrorists cause Bush burned too many bridges.

Post by **Computron** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:01 am

Leatherneck wrote:

Dark Link: Being liked by the rest of the world is not a primary concern of most Americans. This is not a popularity-with-the-world contest.

It is when they start shooting at us.

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:18 am

Computron wrote:
Leatherneck wrote:

Dark Link: Being liked by the rest of the world is not a primary concern of most Americans. This is not a popularity-with-the-world contest.
It is when they start shooting at us.

For some reason, I don't see any major military powers, save China, shooting at us.

Like us or not, the rest of the world depends far too much on America.

Florida is firmly Bush, nearly 90% reporting. Ohio has Bush up around 52.5% with a 5% lead, 50% reporting. And MICHIGAN! Up 55-45, 27 reporting.

I am not counting my chickens before they hatch... I am not counting my chickens before they hatch... I am not counting my chickens before they hatch... I am not counting my chickens before they hatch...

Post by **Computron** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:23 am

Leatherneck wrote:
Computron wrote:
Leatherneck wrote:

Dark Link: Being liked by the rest of the world is not a primary concern of most Americans. This is not a popularity-with-the-world contest.
It is when they start shooting at us.
For some reason, I don't see any major military powers, save China, shooting at us.

Which explains the peace reigning over Iraq, and the complete lack of Islamic fundamentalist terrorism?

Redstreak · Post by **Redstreak** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:26 am

Better switch that MI number, bucko...it's totally swung the opposite way: Kerry 54%, Bush 45%.

wideload · Post by **wideload** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:41 am

could ohio be the new florida?

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:44 am

Dark Link wrote:
Leatherneck wrote:

Dark Link: Being liked by the rest of the world is not a primary concern of most Americans. This is not a popularity-with-the-world contest.
Say that when you run out of allies and get ****** up by terrorists cause Bush burned too many bridges.

wait didnt that happen already?

Post by **Computron** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:05 am

Oh my ******* goodness.

4 more years of Bush.

Why? Why does America hate itself?

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:11 am

Calm down Compy, breathe, and relax.

Post by **Computron** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:17 am

As an American, I'd like to apologize to the rest of the world. I am sorry that the majority of people in this county are complete idiots who cannot understand what Bush's actions have done to America and the world. I tried hard to get people to vote. Many people who weren't going to vote went (and voted for Kerry) because efforts of people like myself. Nonetheless, we were unable to push back the bounds of ignorance.

I deeply regret this shortcoming, and sincerely fear what lies ahead.

Taken from Fark.com

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:21 am

I really find it shocking and distasteful that my opinions and personal beliefs classify me as an 'idiot'. I know that you didnt personally write that letter Compy, but it still bothers me that people cant just say "Ok.. My opinions didnt prevail today, but that doesnt mean I should give up." Rather our society has become too reliant on name calling and tantrum throwing.

Post by **Computron** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:24 am

http://www.suntimes.com/output/roeper/c ... oep02.html

50 reasons.

Master_Fwiffo · Post by **Master_Fwiffo** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:29 am

Computron wrote:As an American, I'd like to apologize to the rest of the world. I am sorry that the majority of people in this county are complete idiots who cannot understand what Bush's actions have done to America and the world. I tried hard to get people to vote. Many people who weren't going to vote went (and voted for Kerry) because efforts of people like myself. Nonetheless, we were unable to push back the bounds of ignorance.

I deeply regret this shortcoming, and sincerely fear what lies ahead.

Taken from Fark.com

Boo-Fing-Hoo. Since everyone who votes republicans MUST be an idiot, and everyone who is right wing MUST be ignorant, and anyone who doesnt conform to YOUR worldview MUST be stupid....
Arnt democrats supposed to be the party of tolerance for others beliefs? Hrm?

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:32 am

Its nice to know that people have the time to make lists like this.

Post by **Computron** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:33 am

Master_Fwiffo wrote: Arnt democrats supposed to be the party of tolerance for others beliefs? Hrm?

I respect your right to have an opinion.

I don't necessarily respect that opinion however.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:35 am

at least youve been nice to me about it

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:43 am

You've just witnessed the final nail in the coffin of America as a "superpower". In twenty years, Bush's current economic policies will have landed us up a creek of poo looking up at China.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:25 am

Quit whining.. McCain in 08!!!!

I think McCain is dreamy lol

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