I have acquired teh Megs0rrzzz...

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Post by Kaylee » Tue May 29, 2007 1:40 pm

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Name: Megatron
Series: Masterpiece
Accessories: Nuclear fusion cannon/scope, handgun, ‘Kremzeek’ figurine, morning star, laser sword

Good:

Absolutely mind-boggling.

This is simply the Megatron figure you were wishing for when you were a small child and saw what the actual Megatron toy looked like. The robot mode is imposing, sturdy and with a surprising ability to find it’s own balance rather than just falling over.

Moreso, the designers actually managed to pull a proper, humanoid robot from the most unlikely of starting points. It involves some ‘cheating’ (more on that later) but sure enough, we start with a (n oversized) Walther P-38 handgun and end up with a photo-realistic Megatron- complete with moving fingers/thumbs, neck, hips, knees (which go the RIGHT way this time), toes, wrists etc..

The joints are mostly sturdy, although the transformation is incredibly fiddly and puts stress on joints which I am concerned about coping with it and thanks to the way his legs and feet are designed he was a way of ‘spreading’ to a solid pose rather than just keeling over.

The detail on Megatron is excellent- starting with a brushed-metal finish going to a matt-black effect on his handle in robot mode, complete with a brush-painted Decepticon symbol. Transforming him into a robot reveals a huge level of extra detail in the form of vents, painted features and general classiness.

The figure also features some nifty little side-extras, like the way his head squashes and retracts and the way his hip-vents fold and unfold.

All in all Megatron is an absolutely startling model.

Bad:

This figure is hugely unfortunate in one simple way- it can’t win. There is no way on Earth that an ‘anatomically correct’ Megatron could be derived from a handgun without some cheating along the way. This is done, cleverly, by the use of folding panels- they pop up to give the illusion of bulk in robot mode and fold down to make a smooth surface in gun mode.

This is a problem for me on two counts- firstly I can’t manage to transform the figure without popping off at least one hip-panel and one shoulder-panel. The fact they snap back into socket is great but doesn’t change the fact that I’ve just broken the robot mid-transforming.

The second problem is the same one I faced with Alternator Smokescreen: the more panels you put into a surface, the harder it becomes to line them all up just so that they slot together properly. I’ve not yet managed to make Megsy’s handle in gun mode actually sit together as it should- there’s always a joint about to give or poking up ruining the illusion.

The figure is freakin’ awesome, don’t get me wrong, but these are more than just niggles: I don’t like it falling to bits when I transform it and I don’t like the fact I can’t transform it right, even after four attempts.

Not helping young Megsy is his inherited joint weakness from his 1983 forerunner- I feel very worried that sooner or later I’m going to pop something that isn’t a ball-and-socket joint and that’s going to be an expensive mistransformation.

Finally his transformation is horrendously complicated, moreso even in my opinion than the afore-mentioned Smokescreen. There isn’t much to be done about this- fully articulated toes can’t just be tucked away, I appreciate they have to fold up and in properly, but Megsy takes me on average about 10-12 minutes to transform properly.

Overall:

Megatron is a positively incredible model, although sadly a model with some most irritating faults. There is little that could be done about them in my opinion and the designers obviously did their best. I would be tempted to say the faults are nit-picking, but they’re not. The figure is damn hard to transform at all (let alone properly), falls apart and feels very delicate.

That said, he looks perfect in both modes (when you get it right) and comes with a pleasing array of accessories.

The figure feels like it deserves a rating of excellent, but sadly its faults have to reduce it to a good.

Rating: Good.
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Post by Predabot » Tue May 29, 2007 2:32 pm

Excellent, Mr Lynch! :) And no baby-orange tip either. ^^

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Post by Kaylee » Tue May 29, 2007 2:55 pm

He's a fab little thing, but I've only dared transform him a few times due to his delicacy and he tends to fall apart during it :(

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Post by anna » Tue May 29, 2007 3:39 pm

how big is it? as big as 20th anniversery prime?
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Post by Kaylee » Tue May 29, 2007 6:07 pm

anna wrote:how big is it? as big as 20th anniversery prime?
He's pretty huge- I've added a piccy with a matchbox in it for scale. He's the same size as MP Prime :)

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Post by Scraplet » Tue May 29, 2007 10:32 pm

I want one!

Are there any problems with importing what some might say is a replica handgun into the country? I know the Americans are a bit twitchy with need for the orange tip and all that. Any probs?
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Post by Kaylee » Tue May 29, 2007 10:40 pm

Scraplet wrote:I want one!

Are there any problems with importing what some might say is a replica handgun into the country? I know the Americans are a bit twitchy with need for the orange tip and all that. Any probs?
None myself, it was bought from Trojan Toy Store, comes packed in robot mode and was clearly declared as a 'toy/model' on the customs packet :)

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Post by Hot Shot » Tue May 29, 2007 10:43 pm

Karl Lynch wrote:He's a fab little thing, but I've only dared transform him a few times due to his delicacy and he tends to fall apart during it :(
I know what you mean. The a clip on the trigger chamber snapped off within the first few hours of owning him. I was actually quite dissapointed. He has cheap plastic and very few metal parts. I can't speak for everyone, but I think he pales in comparison to MP-01.
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Post by Kaylee » Wed May 30, 2007 11:32 am

Hot Shot wrote:
Karl Lynch wrote:He's a fab little thing, but I've only dared transform him a few times due to his delicacy and he tends to fall apart during it :(
I know what you mean. The a clip on the trigger chamber snapped off within the first few hours of owning him. I was actually quite dissapointed. He has cheap plastic and very few metal parts. I can't speak for everyone, but I think he pales in comparison to MP-01.
Problem is he's a different kettle of fish- MP01 had a far simpler transformation and much fewer stress points, so they could get away with nice big chunky metal pieces. MP05 is ridiculously complicated (by necessity, nothing really to be done about that) and plastic components have more give in them than metal ones so that the stress points are less likely to snap. He's very much a compromise- freakin' awesome and yet not simultaneously. I think the moral is just treat him like a delicate model and try not to force any of his components.

Sadly I also now have my first gripe against MP04, Screamer is out of proportion :( Shame really because unlike some (most?) I actually really like his colour scheme/design.

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Post by Brendocon » Wed May 30, 2007 11:47 am

The feet on mine have started to develop rust spots. :(

I have an awesome shelf of MP Megs, MP Screamer and the Alternator versions of Rumble and Ravage. Trez bon.
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Post by Kaylee » Wed May 30, 2007 12:06 pm

Brendocon wrote:The feet on mine have started to develop rust spots. :(
Yikes! Sorry to hear that matey :(

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Post by Brendocon » Wed May 30, 2007 12:17 pm

I'm stunned... never had that happen with any TF ever... they're very small and faint, but it's definite oxidation of some sort...
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Post by Hot Shot » Wed May 30, 2007 12:45 pm

Brendocon wrote:I'm stunned... never had that happen with any TF ever... they're very small and faint, but it's definite oxidation of some sort...
I've got that problem on one of Meg's feet, too. It kinda looks like a tarnish or stain of some sort, and it's rough to the touch. As a matter of fact, it was like that when I opened it. Maybe the Chinese factory they were made in has a ceiling crack? :uhh:
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Post by The Last Autobot » Wed May 30, 2007 11:15 pm

Brendocon wrote:The feet on mine have started to develop rust spots. :(
Its an Antillia variant! :p

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Post by BB Shockwave » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:13 am

Excellent toy. Wish I had the money to buy one, as it is, I'm waiting to get another Overlord and trade for it (same way I got my MP-01).

I think the joint problems can be fixed with laquer. I used it pretty often on ball joints, they make them more rigid and harder to snap off. Of course I wouldn't use nail polish on an MP Megs, there is a special laquer they sell in model shops for this.

I'm glad I passed on Starscream, did anyone see the new Hasbro variation? Much better paint job, although it has battle damage sadly (why Hasbro thinks it's cool, I'll never know...)

Btw Karl, I heard the scope's laser pointer is extremely powerful, a guy who bought one told me it can light up objects very far away too.
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Post by Brendocon » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:33 pm

BB Shockwave wrote:I'm glad I passed on Starscream, did anyone see the new Hasbro variation? Much better paint job, although it has battle damage sadly (why Hasbro thinks it's cool, I'll never know...)
Aye, I saw it a week or so ago. Not overly keen, myself. Something about the scheme makes him look... well... I'm not sure. A bit malnourished, perhaps.
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Post by Kaylee » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:30 pm

BB Shockwave wrote:Btw Karl, I heard the scope's laser pointer is extremely powerful, a guy who bought one told me it can light up objects very far away too.
Mine is very bright but not focussed enough to work as a laser pointer, I think it's just to illustrate his fusion cannon more than anything :)

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Post by Cathy_Quinn » Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:57 pm

Yes, Karl loves his Megatron. Little does he know I broke it months ago and replaced it with a vegetable sculpture... ;)
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Post by Guest » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:50 pm

Well, that would explain the "bright and not focussed" aspect.

(I'm guessing you used a carrot for the "this is not a real gun" plug)

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Post by Cathy_Quinn » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:02 pm

Rebis wrote:Well, that would explain the "bright and not focussed" aspect.

(I'm guessing you used a carrot for the "this is not a real gun" plug)
Yeah it was cheaper than a Courgette :)
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Post by Shanti418 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:21 am

So now that I have a decent job and am looking to spend copious amounts of money on things that I certainly don't "need," is MP Megatron impossible to find without paying through your teeth? What would be more expensive, MP-05, or TFC 6, the Takara Bookstyle G1 Reissue? because I really want both.
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Post by Scraplet » Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:36 pm

Karl Lynch wrote:
Scraplet wrote:I want one!

Are there any problems with importing what some might say is a replica handgun into the country? I know the Americans are a bit twitchy with need for the orange tip and all that. Any probs?
None myself, it was bought from Trojan Toy Store, comes packed in robot mode and was clearly declared as a 'toy/model' on the customs packet :)
Update: I ordered mine from Trojan in December. Still not received. They ignore my emails. They refuse to confirm if it was even dispatched. They have £85 of my money. Avoid these money grabbing c***s at all costs.

And I justified buying it after I sold (almost) all my childhood G1 toys on ebay to clear my overdraft and made an upexpected profit :(

Bastards. :x
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