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Post by Shanti418 » Tue Jul 05, 2005 10:40 pm

Not really, but what are you gonna do? I certainly don't want to have to drive them everywhere.


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Post by Autobloke » Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:43 pm

My sister wanted to learn to drive, so we put her in the driver's seat of her boyfriend's mini. As it's a such a crap motor, we could push it down the road without taking the handbrake off.
My sister didn't know what was happening (the engine was still switched off) and screamed her head off.
How we laughed. :lol:
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Post by Cyclone_X » Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:26 pm

Autobloke wrote: So, do we like the idea of female drivers? (leaves question slightly ambiguous)
yes I do like it, it's something new yet also something back to basics (original Microman toys)

and even though Ichikawa wont write the BTA stories, it still makes somewhat sence that they have human drivers (friends, undercover agents, ...) (and: Spike, Buster, ...)

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Post by Shanti418 » Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:52 pm

Autobloke wrote:My sister wanted to learn to drive, so we put her in the driver's seat of her boyfriend's mini. As it's a such a crap motor, we could push it down the road without taking the handbrake off.
My sister didn't know what was happening (the engine was still switched off) and screamed her head off.
How we laughed. :lol:
That reminds me of the time I was riding a friend's bike, and he conveniently forgot to tell me the brakes didn't work. I found out when I went full speed into a wall and nearly lost my balls on the bike's metal bar.

EDIT: Hey, I can say balls? Righteous!

Anyway, to get back to the subject, Skids GOOD! Let's hope they don't try and make a Decep outta this mold. I don't think any self respecting Decep would stand to be in a Scion.
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Post by Cyclone_X » Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:45 pm

Shanti418 wrote: Let's hope they don't try and make a Decep outta this mold. I don't think any self respecting Decep would stand to be in a Scion.
so far the only one sheduled as a Toyota is Broadcast (aka Blaster), but then again, its just for the BTA series
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Post by Shanti418 » Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:16 pm

Got a link I could check out?
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Post by Autobloke » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:50 pm

Shanti418 wrote:Let's hope they don't try and make a Decep outta this mold.
Were there any Decepticon vans?
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Post by Shanti418 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:22 pm

I certainly can't think of any, aside from 1/2 of Battletrap and perhaps some obscure repaint I've never heard of.

What Decepticon would be willing to have a van as an alt-mode? At the very least, you'd have to stick a gun on the roof or something to satisfy them.
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Post by Cyclone_X » Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:54 pm

Shanti418 wrote:Got a link I could check out?
http://tfarchive.com/community/showthre ... adid=31415
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Post by Shanti418 » Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:15 pm

Cool, thanks.
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Post by KingMob » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:11 am

oooh, that's actually quite nice...in robot mode anyway.
Cheers for the links.

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Post by Aaron Hong » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:04 am

Shanti418 wrote: Let's hope they don't try and make a Decep outta this mold.
What if it was Soundwave? He needs a new toy.
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Post by Shanti418 » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:18 am

Well, there's this Cybertron/GF Soundwave floating about, although pictures of him have been banned a la Primus.
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Post by Autobloke » Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:32 am

The blue's too dark. And where's his trademark white and red stripes? What's the point of remaking a character and then dropping his distinctive apps?
Still, I bet ReproLabels is rubbing its hands at the new possibilities...
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Post by Cyclone_X » Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:35 am

what is it with you G1 freaks that NEED the exact same decals on totally different cars?

and BTW: this skids is handpainted (see the metrallic windows :p), not yet the production model
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Post by Autobloke » Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:53 am

Then why bother calling it 'Skids' at all? Why not 'Generic Blue Van-a-tron'?
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Post by Cyclone_X » Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:12 pm

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it's not because it's the same character that it has to be exactly the same, if so, then they should have gotten the G1 skids car in 1/24 scale and not this Toyota, and same for all others, Lambor MUST be a lamborgini, teh blasphemy!! :roll:

for BTs and Alts I expect realistic cars without autobot or decepticon logos in alt mode (because they do are 'Robots in disguise', and Hasbro failed that part in RiD)

if YOU personnaly WANT it to look like the original toy (if you want to stay conservative and die hard G1 fan) then do what you want, but dont blame HasTak for such minor 'losses' in details
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Post by Shanti418 » Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:31 pm

Yeah, considering Meister/Jazz and Tracks, Has/Tak's record on making bland car modes to help ReproLabels get money is well documented.
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Post by Autobloke » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:58 pm

Cyclone_X wrote:if YOU personnaly WANT it to look like the original toy (if you want to stay conservative and die hard G1 fan) then do what you want, but dont blame HasTak for such minor 'losses' in details
I don't want it EXACTLY the same, I'm just saying that it was one of those things that made a blue van into a character. How many TF fans would have moaned if MP Prime had been an orangey-red and not the colour he's always been? 'But Optimus is RED' they'd winge. And lots of people would nod their heads and agree.
Look at the arguements about Bumblebee not being a VW Beetle in the movie. Frankly I don't care what car he is, as long as he's still small and yellow.
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Post by Shanti418 » Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:07 pm

Autobloke wrote: Frankly I don't care what car he is, as long as he's still small and yellow.
*searches around frantically looking for joke before Autobloke gets back*
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Post by KingMob » Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:11 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought Masterpiece Prime wasn't actually part of the BT line? I thought MPOP was a Masterpiece toy and therefore supposed to be as accurate to the general conception of G1 Optimus Prime as possible within the limits of something that's super-designed to be an 'ultimate' modern collector's toy.
IIRC, there'd be no chance of him being Orange. Or white or anything else, they weren't trying to re-envision him in modern form, just recreate him in a form as accurate to the G1 concept as possible. Which is different to what they are doing in the Alt/BT line. Anyway, someone somewhere probably has some complaints about his appearance anyway.
OmG He N0T G0T TeH WHITe STR1PeS 1n R1GHT PLACE 0r MAN-B00BS An HAS Gr3Y GUN1!1!! WhY D0 TEHY KaLL H1M OPTIMUS PRIME OMG!11 HATEZ0000RZZZ or whatever.
I wonder if people like that hang out with the TRUKK N0T MUNKY and T-REX N0T KARR brigade, or if they disagree over those things as well...?
Wouldn't surprise me. The number of people who seem to look to take offence at something which simply differs from their own opinion seems to rise every day.

Personally, I had forgotten Skids had red/white stripe decals and I've got the figure on display! :oops: They've honestly never stuck in my head as integral to his character. Sorry, mate. But yeah, reprolabels will be able to sort you out, and their stickers will presumably be incredibly G1 accurate; imagine if BT/Alt Skids did come with stripes similar to G1 Skids, they'd probably end up not being exactly right and would have left Skids fans dissatisfied anyway. There's always a bright side. :)

I'm still a bit iffy on the alt-mode. But I do like him.

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Post by Autobloke » Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:05 pm

Y'see, now I'm being made out to be some rabid accuracy freak.
I was using the MP Prime thing as a loose example, but if you want to be picky - how would everyone have reacted if Alt/BT Grimlock had been bright pink?
I completely understand that it can't be exactly the same as the G1 version - and I wouldn't want that - I can get the reissue if I'm THAT worried.
I don't understand the negative reaction to my opinion that the Skids figure was lacking in the points that would've made him more Skids-like.

I like the figure, and would buy him regardless of what he looks like.
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Post by Denyer » Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:34 pm

Pretty sure that that Skids is hand-painted.

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Post by Autobloke » Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:45 pm

Denyer wrote:Pretty sure that that Skids is hand-painted.
Yeah, I shouldn't pass judgment on unfinished and unfinalised stuff.
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