The New Takara Reissue is...(brace yourself)

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:27 pm

A two-pack of Kup and Wheelie! WHEELIE!!! WHEELIE IS BEING REISSUED!

http://www.tfw2005.com/gallery/album01/charandwheelie

'Tis the first sign of the Apocalypse!!!

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:13 pm

w-w-Wheelie?

Oh... My... GOD!
MY EYES!
The horror. THE HORROR!!!

At least they sweeten the bitter pill with Kup though...

But: Kup + Wheelie. Why? When did THEY ever hang out?

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:03 pm

Holy crap. Prepare for a boxset of Throttlebots and Firecons next.

With all the good characters that have yet to be released, this is a bit of an insult.

*places preoder*

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:07 pm

I already have Kup, Wheelie, and all the Throttlebots and Firecons - so I don't need to buy these, thank God.
...
(looks about to see if the coast is clear)
...
(also places preorder)

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:24 am

Yea, this is complete balls. I mean, Wheelie? Are they seroius? And while Kup was a cool characte, his transformation and toy are boring, boring, boring. I mean, Blurr or Scourge would have been soo much cooler. I don't want to buy a toy that I can remember being bored with as a kid!!!

(puts on wig,sunglasses, and trenchcoat)

(places pre order)

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:43 pm

There will forever be a number missing on my shelf of TFC reissues.

Probably.

Possibly.

Maybe.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:30 pm

At least the Char figure is blue instead of the green of the G1 US version. Might ease the pain a bit.

Post by **Best First** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:34 pm

hmm.

don't mind really.

Would much prefer the non random appraoch though.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:32 pm

Professor Smooth wrote:At least the Char figure is blue instead of the green of the G1 US version. Might ease the pain a bit.

You got a green one? My UK G1 one was blue - I'd have thought they'd have been the same. Or was yours a Targetmaster one or something?

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:47 pm

The Uk one was a greeny blue colour. Bit nasty

The fact this one is show accurate makes it more appealing, I wish they would make him Targetmaster Kup though, like they did with Hot Rod.

And then release the dinobots, Swoop first.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:18 pm

SWOOP!!! SWOOP!!! SWOOP!!!

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:35 am

You're right, Hound: I WOULD rather have a crappy little Nebulon than Wheelie.

I don't think they'll ever release the Dinobots. I can't see them releasing just one (except of course the Grimster), and I can't see them getting 5 seperate releases or one big release, a la the Predaking reissue.

I mean, is the purpose of TFC to release old popular characters in pristine condition (Megatron, Skids, Astrotrain), or to release old, obscure character repaints like Soundblaster/Riccochet (sp, I know)?

Post by **Best First** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:43 am

i think in assuming theer si some plan behind it all you may be making a mistake...

Post by **Denyer** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:48 pm

Who reckons Blurr will arrive at some point, though?

If/when Takara get around to Dinobots, they'll have to ditch the current box size. Wouldn't entirely rule out a box set, if the Predaking set sold. And it did as far as I recall.

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:17 pm

I just can't help but think, that from a business point of view at least, there is potentially a hell of a lot of money that could be made from rereleasing the Dinobots. They were clearly some of the best G1 toys and are still incredibly popular characters.

So I will never rule it out on that point alone.

I guess that Takara has to pad the line out with the odd piece of crud to sustain interest in the line by not releasing all the good figures at the start..

and I think Rodimus will be next..

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 5:40 pm

Denyer wrote:Who reckons Blurr will arrive at some point, though?

If/when Takara get around to Dinobots, they'll have to ditch the current box size. Wouldn't entirely rule out a box set, if the Predaking set sold. And it did as far as I recall.

If Blurr ever was released, he should be BOTH normalG1 AND a Targetmaster. He could have his Nebulan and original gun, plus a little plug-in adapter so he can hold his smaller original gun. That'd be something new, and avoid them releasing two versions of him and screwing us over at a later date.

Also, the guy that owns the import shop I go to had loads of Predakings at £120 a go - they sold unbelievably well. He only has one left now, I think.

I couldn't afford to buy one.

Darth Aux · Post by **Darth Aux** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:50 am

Sorry to rain on everyones parade, but I'm sure the Dinobots were originally made by a Mexican company and then Tak/Has made them in much the same way as the Deluxe Insecticons, Jetfire and Shockwave I believe (Correct me if any of those points are wrong)

But if I'm right and for once I'm sure I am, no Dino's. Swoop would be SWEET! I'd actually break my no more TF's rule to get him.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:44 pm

Darth Aux wrote:Sorry to rain on everyones parade, but I'm sure the Dinobots were originally made by a Mexican company and then Tak/Has made them in much the same way as the Deluxe Insecticons, Jetfire and Shockwave I believe (Correct me if any of those points are wrong)

But if I'm right and for once I'm sure I am, no Dino's. Swoop would be SWEET! I'd actually break my no more TF's rule to get him.

I'm fairly certain that the original Dinobots were originally made by Takara as part of the Diaclone line. There were versions in Mexico that used similar molds, but these were simply knockoffs from the mid-80's.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:53 pm

I think the Prof's right. He deserves tenure here.

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Sun May 01, 2005 7:26 am

Speaking of Predaking, and looking at your sign, Prof, bigislandtoys sells loose ones for only 15$... Why bother with a reissue?

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Sun May 01, 2005 7:40 am

BB Shockwave wrote:Speaking of Predaking, and looking at your sign, Prof, bigislandtoys sells loose ones for only 15$... Why bother with a reissue?

Different colorscheme? Uh...that's about it. I haven't bothered with many of the reissues to begin with so I'll have no trouble passing this one up.

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Sun May 01, 2005 7:55 am

Professor Smooth wrote:
BB Shockwave wrote:Speaking of Predaking, and looking at your sign, Prof, bigislandtoys sells loose ones for only 15$... Why bother with a reissue?
Different colorscheme? Uh...that's about it. I haven't bothered with many of the reissues to begin with so I'll have no trouble passing this one up.

Really? Haven't noticed the color difference... what exactly? Though I'd be happy to even have a full predaking, not to bother with a reissue. I only have a loose Rampage so far.

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Sun May 01, 2005 12:56 pm

Hound wrote:Holy crap. Prepare for a boxset of Throttlebots and Firecons next.

SWEET.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Sun May 01, 2005 4:43 pm

BB Shockwave wrote:Haven't noticed the color difference.

Me neither.

Post by **Denyer** » Mon May 02, 2005 12:29 am

Darth Aux wrote:But if I'm right and for once I'm sure I am, no Dino's.

The Dinobots were already reissued in the Classic Heroes line and in Generation 2—it likely wouldn't make a shred of difference even if you were correct...

Takara originals:
http://diaclone.net/orid/diadino/d086.html
http://diaclone.net/orid/diadino/d087.html
http://diaclone.net/orid/diadino/d088.html
http://diaclone.net/orid/diadino/d089.html
http://diaclone.net/orid/diadino/d090.html

(Also some pics of the Italian 'Trasformers'...)

Early knockoffs:
http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/ ... lock1.html
http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/ ... lock2.html
http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/ ... Slag1.html
http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/ ... Slag2.html
http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/ ... udge1.html

Recent knockoffs:
http://diaclone.net/orid/diadino/dinosp/index.html

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Sun May 15, 2005 2:28 pm

Hound wrote:
So I will never rule it out on that point alone.

I guess that Takara has to pad the line out with the odd piece of crud to sustain interest in the line by not releasing all the good figures at the start..

and I think Rodimus will be next..

Yup. It's like the BBC's reissues of Doctor Who on DVD. Classics interspaced with the dross. It's a long term business to maximise the whole line hence no "Genesis of the Daleks", "Seeds of doom", "Survival", "Inferno" etc.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Sun May 15, 2005 9:24 pm

Those dino knockoffs are kinda cool. I'd like to have the green Grimlock with the neon chest. And perhaps the gold one. Ah, sod it - I'd like them ALL (for the novelty factor of course).

inane_nobody · Post by **inane_nobody** » Mon May 16, 2005 6:23 am

g2 grimlock looks the best. not like the *yawn* dinobots were really much in the first place.

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Mon May 16, 2005 3:28 pm

Still the one before, Perceptor, is a great reissue.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Mon May 16, 2005 4:47 pm

What's up with trying to graft gaudy wings onto Sludge? Silliness.

You know, maybe Takara just has a few storage sheds FULL of unsold Wheelies, and they're just looking to do some late spring cleaning.