I hate BT Grimlock.

inane_nobody · Post by **inane_nobody** » Sun May 08, 2005 11:32 pm

nah, he's awesome, but wheeljack is better.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Mon May 09, 2005 10:33 am

inane_nobody wrote:nah, he's awesome, but wheeljack is better.

Ah, problem solved then.
Actually I agree, but I've already got Grimlock, and Wheeljack just isn't different enough for me to warrant another purchase.

And in case anyone misunderstood my previous post - I meant hunt down the people buying the repaints - not hunt down the repaints (and buy them *shudder*).

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Wed May 11, 2005 8:12 am

I luvs my BT Grimlock, I think he looks tops.

Dislike transforming him intensely, though, in particular his arms. I also tend to remove his 'roof/arse-plate' when in bot mode.
Disappointing, but not crap.

Only repaint I'm getting is Shockers/Laserwave fellow. Oh, tell a lie, I may get 'Decepticharge' because I've not bothered with Overdrive. Not really a fan of that design.

Post by **Best First** » Wed May 11, 2005 1:52 pm

i think i will flog most of my BT...

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Wed May 11, 2005 6:21 pm

Best First wrote:i think i will flog most of my BT...

(offers cat 'o' ninetails). I think you're being a bit too harsh though.

Well, it HAD to be said.

inane_nobody · Post by **inane_nobody** » Sun May 15, 2005 5:51 am

Best First wrote:i think i will flog most of my BT...

you could just like give them to me. it amazes me...best transformer line since g2 and people still complain...

Post by **Best First** » Sun May 15, 2005 7:05 pm

inane_nobody wrote:
Best First wrote:i think i will flog most of my BT...
you could just like give them to me. it amazes me...best transformer line since g2 and people still complain...

you have no idea of the reasons behind my contemplating selling them.

besides if i were t give them awa t would probably be tso omeone who's contibutions to topics were a little more notewrothy than:

"i don't share your opinon

"

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Sun May 15, 2005 8:32 pm

I share your opinions. GIMME! (not offering anything in return though)

Actually, I'm not too sure how valid my posts really are (hugs blankie and sucks thumb).

inane_nobody · Post by **inane_nobody** » Mon May 16, 2005 6:31 am

Best First wrote:
inane_nobody wrote:
Best First wrote:i think i will flog most of my BT...
you could just like give them to me. it amazes me...best transformer line since g2 and people still complain...
you have no idea of the reasons behind my contemplating selling them.

besides if i were t give them awa t would probably be tso omeone who's contibutions to topics were a little more notewrothy than:

"i don't share your opinon "

yeah, i'm so sorry for disagreeing with you...please forgive me, your lordship!!!! god knows, i'm not entitled to my own opinion, mein fuherer

.

Post by **Best First** » Mon May 16, 2005 12:55 pm

inane_nobody wrote:
Best First wrote:
inane_nobody wrote: you could just like give them to me. it amazes me...best transformer line since g2 and people still complain...
you have no idea of the reasons behind my contemplating selling them.

besides if i were t give them awa t would probably be tso omeone who's contibutions to topics were a little more notewrothy than:

"i don't share your opinon "
yeah, i'm so sorry for disagreeing with you...please forgive me, your lordship!!!! god knows, i'm not entitled to my own opinion, mein fuherer .

where do i say you can't agree with me?

If i didn't think you were entitled to your opinion surely i would ban you or delete your posts?

so really your little attempt at suggesting your somehow being persecuted for your opinion is rather basless isn't it? I was merely commenting that your post appeared to have little, if any, content of interest.

Your sarcasm could do with some work as well - assuming you have a logical target, rather than accusing someone of something they haven't done (which tends to undermine you from the start), you might want to aim for something a bit more witty or punchy, rather than something predictable and bereft of humour. Also using exclamation marks in such a fashion is, as the 'comedian' David Baddiel commented in about his only good routine ever, akin to signing your post 'Love ****'. Good luck next time though.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon May 16, 2005 3:44 pm

inane_nobody wrote:
Best First wrote:
inane_nobody wrote: you could just like give them to me. it amazes me...best transformer line since g2 and people still complain...
you have no idea of the reasons behind my contemplating selling them.

besides if i were t give them awa t would probably be tso omeone who's contibutions to topics were a little more notewrothy than:

"i don't share your opinon "
yeah, i'm so sorry for disagreeing with you...please forgive me, your lordship!!!! god knows, i'm not entitled to my own opinion, mein fuherer .

So, what you're actually saying is "you're not entitled to disagree with my opinion - and my opinion is that I'm entitled to disagree with your opinion."

I never get tired of that argument... it's almost as funny as Jim Davidson.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Mon May 16, 2005 4:54 pm

Best First wrote:
you have no idea of the reasons behind my contemplating selling them.

besides if i were t give them awa t would probably be tso omeone who's contibutions to topics were a little more notewrothy than:

"i don't share your opinon "

Various opinions and entitlements aside, AND aside from your secret homemade mix of reasons and inspirations for selling them, you DO think BT/Alt is a pretty solid line, don't you? If you were into that kind of thing, I mean, and by that kind of thing, I mean collecting TF.

And KingMob, Overdrive is a GREAT design, in terms of simplicity and efficiency. Just like Meister was an evolution of the Smokescreen mold, Overdrive is an evolution too.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Mon May 16, 2005 5:00 pm

Best First wrote:Also using exclamation marks in such a fashion is, as the 'comedian' David Baddiel commented in about his only good routine ever, akin to signing your post 'Love ****'. Good luck next time though.

Argh!!! I'm guilty of this on a regular basis!!!
...
!!!

!!!

Post by **Best First** » Mon May 16, 2005 5:00 pm

i liked BT at first, as the line goes on i find myself becoming rather tired of some very similar transformations, not to mention the repaints/remoulds.

standouts for me have been:

Meister
Hound
Sideswipe

Nice concept, bit bored of it now tho.

Post by **Denyer** » Tue May 17, 2005 1:50 am

The only toyline I've ever tried collecting as a set was 'new' MOTU... and that was just the original characters available through normal US/UK retail channels, which still got unwieldy at twenty-something figures.

After that experiment I've settled back into the maxim that cherry-picking is good. Smokescreen captured the initial wow factor of a design and has been used for a whole array of very similar releases, and Grimmers is a big fanboy thing. A few issues with the quality control but I like the reinvention.

The lack of thinking "oo, want" with any immediacy about other stuff (as with, say, RM Convoy) is discouraging, and the lack of stuff on shelves is ruling out impulse purchase. Windcharger is in the category of stuff I'd consider more seriously if I saw in a sale. Rather suspect Argos will be left with more Silverstreaks and Swindles, though—they certainly haven't made exciting choices with their selection of Alternators to stock.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Tue May 17, 2005 5:06 am

Yeah, my store has had two Swindles, a Ravage, and three Windchargers sitting there for weeks. I wish someone would just buy them up already so they'd put out the Shockblasts.

inane_nobody · Post by **inane_nobody** » Tue May 17, 2005 5:49 am

Best First wrote:
inane_nobody wrote:
Best First wrote: you have no idea of the reasons behind my contemplating selling them.

besides if i were t give them awa t would probably be tso omeone who's contibutions to topics were a little more notewrothy than:

"i don't share your opinon "
yeah, i'm so sorry for disagreeing with you...please forgive me, your lordship!!!! god knows, i'm not entitled to my own opinion, mein fuherer .
where do i say you can't agree with me?

If i didn't think you were entitled to your opinion surely i would ban you or delete your posts?

so really your little attempt at suggesting your somehow being persecuted for your opinion is rather basless isn't it? I was merely commenting that your post appeared to have little, if any, content of interest.

Your sarcasm could do with some work as well - assuming you have a logical target, rather than accusing someone of something they haven't done (which tends to undermine you from the start), you might want to aim for something a bit more witty or punchy, rather than something predictable and bereft of humour. Also using exclamation marks in such a fashion is, as the 'comedian' David Baddiel commented in about his only good routine ever, akin to signing your post 'Love ****'. Good luck next time though.

well, kid...you're blown. especially since nothing in this thread i have said was supposed to be witty or funny. seems like you got a little to much anger towards somebody you've never even met. ever consider such stress relievers as therapy, acupunture, trepanation?

inane_nobody · Post by **inane_nobody** » Tue May 17, 2005 5:50 am

Brendocon wrote:
inane_nobody wrote:
Best First wrote: you have no idea of the reasons behind my contemplating selling them.

besides if i were t give them awa t would probably be tso omeone who's contibutions to topics were a little more notewrothy than:

"i don't share your opinon "
yeah, i'm so sorry for disagreeing with you...please forgive me, your lordship!!!! god knows, i'm not entitled to my own opinion, mein fuherer .
So, what you're actually saying is "you're not entitled to disagree with my opinion - and my opinion is that I'm entitled to disagree with your opinion."

I never get tired of that argument... it's almost as funny as Jim Davidson.

so, you either have not read, or do not understand what i have said?

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Tue May 17, 2005 7:40 am

Shanti418 wrote:And KingMob, Overdrive is a GREAT design, in terms of simplicity and efficiency.

Um..yeah. That's as may be. Still don't like it though. Aesthetically being the main reason if one is needed. There is no "oo want" (to quote Denyer) feeling generated in me at all by looking at that figure, and I've checked out both the Alt and the BT. Quite the opposite in fact.

Are we gonna be having 2 parallel conversations about the exact same thing with the same themes in this thread, I hope not, surely there has not been a website yet designed that can hold so much irony!

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Tue May 17, 2005 8:12 am

As far as two threads pontificating on BT, or two (technically three) where inane_nobody and Best bat each other around?

Post by **Best First** » Tue May 17, 2005 8:18 am

inane_nobody wrote:
Best First wrote:
inane_nobody wrote: yeah, i'm so sorry for disagreeing with you...please forgive me, your lordship!!!! god knows, i'm not entitled to my own opinion, mein fuherer .
where do i say you can't agree with me?

If i didn't think you were entitled to your opinion surely i would ban you or delete your posts?

so really your little attempt at suggesting your somehow being persecuted for your opinion is rather basless isn't it? I was merely commenting that your post appeared to have little, if any, content of interest.

Your sarcasm could do with some work as well - assuming you have a logical target, rather than accusing someone of something they haven't done (which tends to undermine you from the start), you might want to aim for something a bit more witty or punchy, rather than something predictable and bereft of humour. Also using exclamation marks in such a fashion is, as the 'comedian' David Baddiel commented in about his only good routine ever, akin to signing your post 'Love ****'. Good luck next time though.
well, kid...you're blown. especially since nothing in this thread i have said was supposed to be witty or funny. seems like you got a little to much anger towards somebody you've never even met. ever consider such stress relievers as therapy, acupunture, trepanation?

mmm, yes, i'm 'blown'...

so i have too much anger because i mock your rather embaressing response to being disgreed with the rather hysterical:

"yeah, i'm so sorry for disagreeing with you...please forgive me, your lordship!!!! god knows, i'm not entitled to my own opinion, mein fuherer

"

yeah, i see. I note also that the points that your sarcasm is weaker than a vegetarian and you had no original point go uncountered - concession accepted.

well argued son.

I also like your attempt to paint me as angry, good tactic! No one wil spot that - on the contrary i am filled with amusement when reading your posts. Thankyou.

Post by **Denyer** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:02 pm

Denyer wrote:Windcharger is in the category of stuff I'd consider more seriously if I saw in a sale.

And I did. Bit of a brick and the plastic doesn't seem quite of the quality of earlier Alternators, but the design is nifty. Not fiddly either.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:01 pm

Windcharger's head looks nowt like him.
And yes - cheap placcy.

Post by **Denyer** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:46 pm

Autobloke wrote:Windcharger's head looks nowt like him.
And yes - cheap placcy.

Windcharger was originally a featureless slab... I'll cope.

It even makes a measure of sense that he doesn't come with a gun, having the magnetic powers...

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:13 pm

I think toys should just come with a three year old kid. If you don't like the toy at least you know someone who can properly destroy it.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:02 pm

sprunkner wrote:I think toys should just come with a three year old kid.

That would get Michael Jackson collecting TFs.
Actually, I think Windcharger was supposed to be an Omnibot update, and the head was based on that. So, I'll take back my earlier moan - could have given him a new bonce though...

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:19 pm

Regardless, the design is STILL nifty, esp. the feet.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:20 pm

But no gun cannon.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:31 am

At least you can buy one on the Internet.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:12 pm

Not overly bothered now - he's safely back in his packaging. It just irked me at the time.