DC #3 / RID 23

[Computron]

Cybertron art is still poor, Lost Light art is better.

Plotwise things are better. The story certainly moves at a quick pace. Guessing the Titan was an Ore Resurrection bomb. Not sure why it mattered that Starscream had to set it off.

Ultra Magnus got some good character development in.

Overall still meh but better than last issue.

[snarl]

That one was alright. Barber's dialogue didn't even get on my tits. Stuff happened, decent pace.

Not a fan of how Prowl is being written.

[bumblemusprime]

I'm disappointed in this. The Dead Universe has become the Unicron of IDW. Off we go again to Nova Prime and Galvatron. There's a lot they could be doing with the MetroTitans, and I hoped the Knights of Cybertron would figure big into this. Instead we're rehashing plotlines that Furman created five years ago, and Costa and Abnett resurrected in 2011.

There's good moments, and dumb moments. The art is suddenly terrible--Milne and Griffith are quite conspicuous in their absence. I so looked forward to MTMTE every month and now it's just being roped into a dull, dull story.

[Mr_Tigg]

I'm disappointed in this. The Dead Universe has become the Unicron of IDW. Off we go again to Nova Prime and Galvatron. There's a lot they could be doing with the MetroTitans, and I hoped the Knights of Cybertron would figure big into this. Instead we're rehashing plotlines that Furman created five years ago, and Costa and Abnett resurrected in 2011.

There's good moments, and dumb moments. The art is suddenly terrible--Milne and Griffith are quite conspicuous in their absence. I so looked forward to MTMTE every month and now it's just being roped into a dull, dull story.

Cheer up. Roche next issue

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I didn't mind it. Felt a little closer to 'The Death of Optimus Prime' in terms of quality. Kinda agree though that they need to lay the Dead Universe to rest - seems to me that Barber is pulling the overall plot strings, with Roberts providing back up. After all, what's going on now seems a more natural continuation of RID's story rather than MTMTE. Should really be the other way round - Roberts is the one bringing fresh, game-changing ideas to the table.

[Yaya]

Well, not sure where you guys saw any improvement in this issue from the last. To me, it was as dull and forced as anything we've seen from Barber thus far.

So Starscream triggered the Metrotitan bomb that reincarnated dead Cybertronians via an UltraEnergon ore wave so that Shockwave could have himself a Megatron spacebridge to allow Nova Prime and Galvatron to return from the Dead Universe, the same Dead Universe that Prime and company just entered and will most assuredly return from, likely without the need of a spacebridge. What fun! It all makes so much sense! Can't wait for what out-of-the-blue surprises will come next.

Seriously, the problem I have with Barbers writing is that everything is so forced. Nothing follows any logic. For example, the Metrotitan is needed to create an ore wave bomb and only Starscream can trigger it. Why? None of that is in any way predictable, surprising, or follows any sort of logic that would make the reader think "Ohhh, okay, I see, cool". It's like Barber is perpetually saying to us "just go with me on this one" over and over. Like I'm back in a kindergarten sandbox and the kid next to me is making things up with every sentence in his imaginary sandbox world, where logic is neither necessary nor desired.

And why does this Scoop guy know everything and where did he come from? I can only think of one explanation. He must be some new Hasbro toy and Barber is following Hasbro mandate. Am I right?

[Hound]

The Scoop, Waspinator, Dreadwing and Goldfire stuff feels so heavy handed. It must be Hasbro mandate. Roberts has got off lightly really as his toy-related stories have been spotlights or they have taken an issue that focuses on the character heavily (Skids). Maybe Barber is taking the brunt of it so that MTMTE escapes unscathed.

[Mr_Tigg]

Well, not sure where you guys saw any improvement in this issue from the last. To me, it was as dull and forced as anything we've seen from Barber thus far.

So Starscream triggered the Metrotitan bomb that reincarnated dead Cybertronians via an UltraEnergon ore wave so that Shockwave could have himself a Megatron spacebridge to allow Nova Prime and Galvatron to return from the Dead Universe, the same Dead Universe that Prime and company just entered and will most assuredly return from, likely without the need of a spacebridge. What fun! It all makes so much sense! Can't wait for what out-of-the-blue surprises will come next.

When did they say Nova Prime and Galvatron were in the DU? Don't remember that. Although come to think of it, they haven't actually specified where either of them are - I thought they were both dead? So is Shockers teleporting them back from the afterlife to be resurrected by his new swanky ore?

It's majorly jarring how grovel-ly Galvatron is now. What happened to -tion Galvy who was dead set on rebellion? He killed Nova Prime for pities sake! I just don't see how he could go back to being a lame-o subordinate.

[Best First]

Yeah i'm in the "no real improvement over last month" camp.

Worst was definitely the utter lack of explanation for SS triggering the titan bomb.

I suppose there may be some link to his previous awakening of a titan. Maybe he wears Sex Panther - a this stage this seems a reasonable suggestion.

It's like eating a meal with some boring relatives - you are kinda greatful for every course that passes as you get closer to the end but that's about the extent of my enthusiasm at present.

[Jack Cade]

I'm kind of enjoying it - I mean, it's moving along, and the Lost Light scenes are full of wit. But the idea that this constitutes a jumping-on point for new readers is a joke - this series probably more than any other requires some pretty solid grounding in the whole of IDW's output to date, and even then you've got to do a bit of detective work to understand how the pieces all fit together. It doesn't help that we're yet again left unsure as to whether something with no apparent explanation (eg. Starscream activating the Necrotitan) is part of the mystery that will later be solved, or just something that's going to be swept under the rug.

Prowl is still being written ridiculously badly, even post-Prowlestator. Has he got another mind control device on him?

[Best First]

the next part is out already!

it's certainly licking along of nothing else - latest issue the best so far i think, because it's very LL focussed.