Holy ******* ****, IDW has screwed their ******* head on!

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:02 pm

# IDW announced after #125, there will be two brand new ongoings. Transformers: Robots in Disguise by John Barber and Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye by James Roberts. These will not be a series reboot and will pick up after the events of Chaos.

# Mike Costa’s run will come to an end with Chaos. Everything he’s been building to will culminate with this arc. This was the story he had to tell and it was time to hand off the Transformers to new creative teams. He however, will stay on Cobra.

At the very end of the panel, Chris Ryall pulled the rug out from under us and showed us the last slide. “FURMAN & WILDMAN. TRANSFORMERS #81. 2012.” The room went CRAZY. Ryall said that they’ve been listening to fans on Twitter and fan polls, fan petitions and are giving us what we want. The plan is to publish #81 through #100, wrapping up everything Simon Furman had planned.

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Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:39 pm

[composite word including 'f*ck']!

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:20 am

Sent a PM to Ryall suggesting printing in this style, ala 80's:

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... -81/21967/

I think it just makes sense and I hope IDW would at least consider it. It would help in rekindling the 80's spirit of the story, I think. The sleek and pristine print style of today might be a little jarring if the aim is to take us back to the good old days.

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:33 am

Okay, I don't blame myself for being too excited to check the news forum first.

Post by **snarl** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:34 am

Don't see why we need to have it coloured in that 80s style. The UK comic was coloured nicely back in 1986

Post by **Best First** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:56 pm

yeah - nostalgia is fully painted Geoff Senior art, not dot matrix

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:07 pm

Maybe for Brits. For Mericans, it's dot matrix. And Yamatov colors running outside all the lines.

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:39 pm

Nostalgia also includes figures with terrible articulation and crappy transformations, without ball-joints so that every time a limb popped off, it was broken for good.

Since we're calling for the good old days.

Sunyavadin · Post by **Sunyavadin** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:10 am

HELL no. We actually had some professional artists on UK comics back in the 80s who could actually do real colouring...

DJ_Convoy · Post by **DJ_Convoy** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:31 am

To be fair, the UK comics were colored with a completely different process than the American comics. Nel Yomtov might not be everyone's fav colorist, but some of that comes down to the coloring process; not his skill or lack thereof.

Sunyavadin · Post by **Sunyavadin** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:33 am

True, true. Bottom line was, for one reason or another we got better art than the american readers were lumped with. But seriously, a lot of the pencillers were vastly superior too.

DJ_Convoy · Post by **DJ_Convoy** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:07 am

Well, TFUK was a big success that lasted a long time... very,very successful for Marvel UK. Their top book, for years, I believe! I think our book was pretty hot at first, but failed to burn up the charts after the first couple of years. It always did pretty well... until the end, of course.

I'd imagine it was easier/more justifiable to assign a Geoff Senior (who was a big deal and clearly a top Marvel UK artist- he drew pretty much every book in the range at some point) there... much as it made sense to assign an old workhorse like Frank Springer or Herb Trimpe or Jose Delbo to the book here. I'm loathe to say artists on either side of the pond were "better," as Frank Springer, to name a name, was likely a "better" artist* than anybody on either book... but it was a difficult book to draw for and not a great showcase for him. Jose Delbo was much more talented than you would've ever known from a 22 page monthly book that featured new, different characters every month, produced during the most conservative editorial reign Marvel US ever had. He wasn't a bad artist... he was a reliable artist who didn't make a lot of waves. I guess it probably made sense to put a guy like that on a book that also didn't make a lot of waves. They weren't gonna put the guys who drew X-Men on it, you know? They needed them on X-Men which sold three times as much as Transformers.

Ultimately, I think Marvel US was much more concerned with putting out a reliable, professional comic as opposed to putting out an artistic statement. I think Marvel UK had more of a "screw it, let's do the best we can" attitude, and struck a real chord with TFUK, and therefore was able to have a little more variety, a little more experimentation... and art that was sometimes suited much better... but sometimes art that wasn't suited as well.

It's sort of apples and oranges when you consider how and why the books were produced, and the differences therein. I don't think it's quite fair to say one book or the other had better artists, necessarily. One book was top of the sales charts (for a long time, but remember toward the last third of the run a lot of newbies and less popular artists drew the book) in the UK and the other was, uh... comfortable in sales in the US, and probably couldn't draw the top tier talent.

That being said, Geoff Senior is an artist I love dearly (certainly my favorite Transformers artist), and I've bought an unforgivable amount of lame comics just 'cause he had a hand in 'em.

*in a fine art sense

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:31 pm

Oh, Dragon's Claws...

We're all familiar by now with the fact that TFUS sold better than Marvel would have liked to admit, and it was more editorial shortsightedness that ended it. Funny enough, Andy and Baskers became major workhorses for Marvel in the mid-90s. They drew various Ghost Rider titles, GI Joe, Spider-Man titles, Spider-Man 2099, and a good number of others.

If only G2 had done as well as TFUK, Marvel probably wouldn't have been tapping Derek Yaniger to do other stuff at the same time.

You know, there have been times in the last week where I have been feeling a little glum.

And then I remember.

Rocherts have their own ongoing.

Simon and Andy are wrapping up the Marvel continuity.

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

Post by **Best First** » Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:19 pm

Why the glumness Sprunkle?

Not to go all GD...

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:56 am

Eh, catch me on Facebook and I can explain the whole damn mess.

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:26 am

Why would you want to make #81 insanely 80's retro when it would have been a 90's comic if it had happened?

Sunyavadin · Post by **Sunyavadin** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:04 pm

Very good point, a 90s style would be appropriate.

As long as they didn't go all Rob Liefeld.

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