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Post by Best First » Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:25 pm

Get rid of everything after Revelation, including LSOTW

keep LSOTW, but be stuck with all the other guff as well?
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Post by Jack Cade » Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:31 pm

Inc. Max Dinos as well?
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Post by Hound » Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:32 pm

If the story could continue in the vein of Infiltration-Revelations then I would gladly give up LSOTW
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Post by Best First » Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:39 pm

Jack Cade wrote:Inc. Max Dinos as well?
would that really swing it either way?
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Post by Brendocon » Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:02 pm

Bye bye Wreckers. :(

[EDIT] Max Dinos isn't really tied to AHM, and in an ideal situation would have been published prior to Revelation.

LSOTW does, in a way, spin-off from the events of Awh Hell Megacarcrash. So, y'know. Blah.

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Post by spiderfrommars » Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:07 pm

Best First wrote:Get rid of everything after Revelation, including LSOTW
I gave up after Revelation, so in a sense I am living the dream.

Should I buy the Wreckers TPB?

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Post by Best First » Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:37 pm

No because i have already hunted you down and killed you for not having donme so already.

By which i mean HELL YES.

Agree about Max Dino's but i would sacrifice that as well to get rid of Ahh! Huge Monkey and the subsequent drudge.
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Post by Yaya » Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:39 pm

I would get rid of everything, even at the cost of LSOTW. I want my two years back.

With the corollary that Revelations goes too. Revelations was a rush job and I would have preferred Furman finish out what he started the way he intended (though likely it would have been in the usual anti-climatic fashion he has concluded his arcs with the past decade.)

Then, knowing what I know now about Rocherts, I would have given them the ongoing, or at least to one of those two guys.

I mean, looking back since Revelations, besides LSOTW, that Prowl bit by Roche, and the ongoing #4 with TC, there hasn't been much to write home about. I remember there was one issue of AHM I really liked, but I can't remember which. Which itself tells me it probably wasn't as good as I thought.

I bet IDW also wishes they could start back at Revelations.
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Post by Hot Shot » Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:58 pm

That's a difficult decision for me. I'd be given the option of taking the really bad with one of my favorite TF books, or have a steady stream of minis ranging from upper-mediocre to good.

I guess I'd give up Wreckers for the old continuity. It was only a matter of time until Roche got more writing duties, anyway.
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Post by Best First » Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:23 pm

JaJa raises a good point about Revelations, although while i can sacrifice LSOTW i am not sure i can sacrifice fully painted EJ Su goodness.

Hmm.
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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:42 pm

Yeah dump it, and Impy...
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Post by Yaya » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:18 am

Best First wrote:JaJa raises a good point about Revelations, although while i can sacrifice LSOTW i am not sure i can sacrifice fully painted EJ Su goodness.

Hmm.
I can rationalize in my head that EJ would have painted the real end to Furman's arc anyway.
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Post by Best First » Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:36 am

Yaya wrote:
Best First wrote:JaJa raises a good point about Revelations, although while i can sacrifice LSOTW i am not sure i can sacrifice fully painted EJ Su goodness.

Hmm.
I can rationalize in my head that EJ would have painted the real end to Furman's arc anyway.
yeah, i think this applies to Max Dino's as well.
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Post by Manchester Devil » Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:46 am

I'm more for ditching the guff and keeping LSOTW. I mean the references to the distaster known as AHM are vague anyway.

My solution would be for the so called 'purge' to come after the Decepticons were exposed and defeated on Earth by Prowl's team and the (new) Wreckers. Prior to said exposure and defeat, the Decepticon milk the occasion as Earth's saviours after defeating the Reapers and subtily controlling everything from behind the scenes in the story 'Invasion'. The exposure and defeat coming in 'Salvation'. All written by Simon Furman with art by EJ Su and Nick Roche.

(Ripping off Terminator? Nah. :oops: )

As for the traitor, surely Dealer in a 'My-death-is-only-the-beginning' plot with the Decepticon secret service would be the perfect candidate. After all, news of Dealer's betrayal would either be subject of rumour or becoming well known after the events at Ki-Aleta.

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Post by spiderfrommars » Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:02 pm

I see the Wreckers story was written by James Roberts ('bout time someone gave him a gig). What's Furman been up to?

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Post by Brendocon » Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:41 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:I see the Wreckers story was written by James Roberts ('bout time someone gave him a gig). What's Furman been up to?
I think he's been locked in a cupboard and given the movie tie-in stuff...

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Post by bumblemusprime » Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:21 am

Personally... I really liked Wreckers. Shattered my trousers and then framed the trousers liked it.

My attitude is kind of that life sucks, kicks you in the nuts, gives you hope, kicks you in the nuts again. Your ex dates your best friend. Your favorite comic is always going to get canceled. Your penis really is smaller than everyone else's. So on and so on. So I'll take what I can get because the alternative might not be as good as I hope.

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Post by Yaya » Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:55 am

bumblemusprime wrote:Personally... I really liked Wreckers. Shattered my trousers and then framed the trousers liked it.

My attitude is kind of that life sucks, kicks you in the nuts, gives you hope, kicks you in the nuts again. Your ex dates your best friend. Your favorite comic is always going to get canceled. Your penis really is smaller than everyone else's.
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Post by snarl » Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:55 am

bumblemusprime wrote: My attitude is kind of that life sucks, kicks you in the nuts, gives you hope, kicks you in the nuts again. Your ex dates your best friend. Your favorite comic is always going to get canceled. Your penis really is smaller than everyone else's. So on and so on. So I'll take what I can get because the alternative might not be as good as I hope.

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Ha!

It does feel like that sometimes.

So I'll probably nick that and pretend I thought of it.
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Post by Yaya » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:30 am

I might take some flak for this, but as good as LSOTW was, it wasn't perfect. I actually preferred Nick's Prowl and Kup stories more, as the writing seemed more calculated and controlled in these spotlights. Also enjoyed Furman's Shockwave spotlight more. Last Stand was quite manic. Which I think is fine, as it shows Nick can write in different ways.

One thing is certain. Rocherts were both able to achieve better characterization in the midst of a bloodbath of a story than McCarthy or Costa have been able to achieve in a decompressed year of drawn out story telling where action is sparse.
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Post by Jack Cade » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:33 pm

If the idea is we rewind and let Furman continue, I guess I'd go with that. If the idea is we simply rid the world of AHM and the Ongoing and stick with what we had up to Devastation/Revelation, everything thereafter cancelled ... nah. What would we have to talk about and hope for?
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Re: WOULD YOU RATHER...

Post by Denyer » Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:13 pm

Best First wrote:Get rid of everything after Revelation, including LSOTW

keep LSOTW, but be stuck with all the other guff as well?
I'd take Wreckers over anything else in the continuity, regardless of what else came along for the ride. Furman offered a decent beginning, but editing that allows for most of strong material to be hived off from the main book has been a problem all of the way through.

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