The Cartoon sucks!

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:37 pm

My GOD!!! Are you people Transformers fans or not?
Of course the G1 eps were rubbish - it was 1984. They should at least be fondly remembered for making a toy line into a character line (along with the comic of course). How many actual characters (and I'm talking personality here) are in the most recent shows? Nope, I can't think of one either. It goes like this:
G1 Pre Movie: Could have been MUCH worse.
Movie: A better version of the cartoon, but not my a great deal.
Post Movie (S3): It's so BAD! (and not in a 'good' way).
Post Movie (S4: Headmasters): The ultimate toy advert.
Victory and other Jap stuff: Not seen alot of it so I can't comment. The Takara english dubs were AWFUL.
Beast Wars: Hated by many, but you never knew you had it so good at the time...
Beast Machines: The crown is slipping...
RID: Nice art and animation, characters losing - well - character. Oops! Here come those two-frames of transformation animation. Decepticons just a joke. Megatron sits on his ass all day.
Armada: It's got bloody kids in it. Grr. Saving the day? GRR!!!
Energon: PLEASE! TURN IT OFF!!!
Cybertron: Well, here's hoping...

Did I miss anything?

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:57 pm

BW Second and BW Neo

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:00 am

I did say I missed alot of Jap stuff...

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:16 am

I liked Masterforce. Though many people hate it... thematically it's pretty similar to Beast Machines, and considering that many people hate BM for similar reasons to MF. I don't mind either... apart from the bridge between BM1 and 2. That was horrid.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:24 am

Never saw Masterforce. Beast Machines isn't really that bad, I suppose. It just monkeyed around with Primal's pesonality to much, if you'll excuse the pun. And the art style was kinda weird. And the transformations lere lacking. And the character designs were bugger-all like the early toy releases. And Nightscream looks like Micheal Jackson. Okay, perhaps I didn't like it too much, but it did reference G1 alot, so that's okay.
I wonder how the TF sparks felt when they were restored at the end of BM and discovered their pristine mechanical planet was now covered in salad? It'd be like you and me waking up one day to find the entire Earth permeated with gravy. I'd be out with the lawnmover quicksmart.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:31 am

Autobloke wrote:if you'll excuse the pun.

What pun? Primal was an ape, not a monkey...

Post by **Best First** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:21 pm

Autobloke wrote: Of course the G1 eps were rubbish - it was 1984.

lots of cartoons made around that timehave aged fine. D & D, Ulysees 31 for example. Time of manufacture has nothing to do with quality.

They should at least be fondly remembered for making a toy line into a character line (along with the comic of course)

Something both the tech specs and comics did better. so why bother.

G1 Pre Movie: Could have been MUCH worse.

i'm stuggling with how? Make them all pink?

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:26 pm

more fem-bots? in pink.
oh Arcee...

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:10 pm

Pink? How very sexist. Why not yellow? Or lavender? They could even have a air freshener smell.
And Brendocon? Don't be pedantic.

The Last Autobot · Post by **The Last Autobot** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:46 pm

The Japanese g1 shows were pretty decent imho.

Headmasters: Liked the action, and the masters personality were correctly handled.

Masterforce: The least Tf like tf show, although you care for the characters and their motivations. Metalhawk transform!

Victory: A more intergalactic view of the war. Victory Saber!

Zone: Predaking in half. Dai Atlas transformation.

Post by **Best First** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:09 pm

Autobloke wrote:Pink? How very sexist.

where do i associate it with gender?

And Brendocon? Don't be pedantic.

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:54 pm

Autobloke wrote:My GOD!!! Are you people Transformers fans or not?
Of course the G1 eps were rubbish - it was 1984.

Comic was done in the 80's as well. Just while we're putting it out there stuff.

Autobloke wrote:They should at least be fondly remembered...

I fondly remember the cartoon. Still doesn't mean it's not crap. It sucks, but I still like it... ...kind of the same situation microwave dinners.

Autobloke wrote:Beast Wars: Hated by many...

...loved by so many more.

Autobloke wrote:And Brendocon? Don't be pedantic.

I never thought I'd see or hear anyone ever tell another person that.

bobaprime85 · Post by **bobaprime85** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:13 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:more fem-bots? in pink.
oh Arcee...

Behold - the last lines of dialogue from DW's G1 #11!

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:17 pm

Autobloke wrote:And Brendocon? Don't be pedantic.

Wow... you asked for your pun to be excused.

I observed that it wasn't actually a pun, therefore implying that excusing you isn't actually necessary.

Plus I used the "wink" posticon, which we humans use to denote humour. Observe:

In the cartoon, Megatron was a convincing villain with well-thought out and effective plans.

See? Humour.

I'm pedantic, yes, it's part of who I am, and I really don't appreciate people who waltz onto the board and tell me how to behave. Especially when I'm actually making a joke.

Post by **Best First** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:45 pm

yeah!

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:53 pm

*loads shot-gun*

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:25 pm

Hey, what's a discussion forum without a little fire?
Besides, I don't think I've come across a single comment about the G1 cartoon that implies anyone liked it very much, so how can everyone be so up in arms about a few honest opinions? If I really hated it then I wouldn't have seasons 1-4 on DVD or three different releases of the movie.
Yeah, the cartoons are a bit sub par, but I'm certainly NOT going to miss an episode of one if I can ever help it - and that's something I'm sure we can all agree on.
Also, I have to admit that my eyes pass over most of the emoticons without even noticing them, so if humour was meant I'm sorry it didn't register with me.
So chill people - I'm a TF fan - which makes us all brothers (or sisters) in this not so happy world we inhabit.

Post by **Best First** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:23 pm

Autobloke wrote:Hey, what's a discussion forum without a little fire?
Besides, I don't think I've come across a single comment about the G1 cartoon that implies anyone liked it very much, so how can everyone be so up in arms about a few honest opinions?

er... they aren't?

But... you like your discussions with 'a little fire' so even if tey are why ya bivvered?

I'm certainly NOT going to miss an episode of one if I can ever help it - and that's something I'm sure we can all agree on.

why?

Also, I have to admit that my eyes pass over most of the emoticons without even noticing them, so if humour was meant I'm sorry it didn't register with me.

uh-huh...

So chill people - I'm a TF fan - which makes us all brothers (or sisters) in this not so happy world we inhabit.

probably miss this then, eh?

chill yourself.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:29 pm

*applies ice bag to crotch* nice and frosty!

Post by **Best First** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:30 pm

dude! its smal enough already...

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:32 pm

Best First wrote:dude! its smal enough already...

Jessica been gossiping again?

Post by **Best First** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:42 pm

she told me last night in the hotel room...

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:46 pm

Best First wrote:she told me last night in the hotel room...

That check bounced by the way. And you still have to sign the model release form for our website. bangatransfanshotwife.com

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:52 pm

bang! a transfan shot his wife?

Police!

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:53 pm

Yikes. Glad I didn't register the Mrs. for that!

Covenant: Sweetie, this is Best First. Don't mind the square head. You need to go with him for a bit.

Mrs. Covenant: ¿Qué es esto?

Covenant: Nothing, babygirl. I just signed you up for a little program, that's all.

Mrs. Covenant: ¡Ayúdeme!

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:09 pm

Brendocon wrote:bang! a transfan shot his wife?

Police!

ROFLMAO you rock sometimes Brend.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:10 pm

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:sometimes

This I take issue with.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:27 pm

Brendocon wrote:
Optimus Prime Rib wrote:sometimes
This I take issue with.

heres a tissue

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:36 pm

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:04 am

What the hell does pedantic mean?

Egg egg