In my humble opinion The Rerturn of Optimus Prime is a big pile of cheesey cack.
like if you ate nothing but Brie for a week and then did a poo.
The Cartoon sucks!
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Even as a little kid, and even when I've only read Marvel stories by Budiansky, I always preferred the comic universe to the cartoon. Why?
A few reasons:
-Shockwave was actually cool and logical, not a purple version of Soundwave
-Prowl was Prime's second-in-command, not a certain useless red autobot with Texan accent.
-Jetfire...
-GB Blackrock instead of say, Shawn Berger
-even RAAT and Circuit Breaker (Mmmm...) was better then Mr Arch-Evil (Naarg!)
-Sparkplug actually objected to his son being around 10 foot giant robots and didn't like the autobots... that felt more real, then them almost living in the Ark in the cartoon
-Grimlock and the dinobots weren't drooling idiots, though I know that some ( 'cough' Silverstreak 'cough') prefer this.
OK so that's why Comic>Cartoon... and that was pre-Furman.
I won't even go into detail about his stories...
A few reasons:
-Shockwave was actually cool and logical, not a purple version of Soundwave
-Prowl was Prime's second-in-command, not a certain useless red autobot with Texan accent.
-Jetfire...
-GB Blackrock instead of say, Shawn Berger
-even RAAT and Circuit Breaker (Mmmm...) was better then Mr Arch-Evil (Naarg!)
-Sparkplug actually objected to his son being around 10 foot giant robots and didn't like the autobots... that felt more real, then them almost living in the Ark in the cartoon
-Grimlock and the dinobots weren't drooling idiots, though I know that some ( 'cough' Silverstreak 'cough') prefer this.
OK so that's why Comic>Cartoon... and that was pre-Furman.
I won't even go into detail about his stories...
"I've come to believe you are working for the enemy, Vervain. There is no other explanation... for your idiocy." (General Woundwort)
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The whole arc post limited series, the "Autobots Are All Dead" arc with Ratchet and Optimus's head and everything PLUS everyone's favorite "Return to Cybertron" is what really differentiated the comic from the cartoon in the early days, IMO.
Cartoon? Well, they had girls who loved Powerglide. That was just bad.
Even when the comic DID go bad with cartoonesque stories, ie Skullgrin being a movie star, Micromaster wrestling, and Car Wash of Doom, they were at least campy if you took sufficient amounts of acid.
Cartoon? Well, they had girls who loved Powerglide. That was just bad.
Even when the comic DID go bad with cartoonesque stories, ie Skullgrin being a movie star, Micromaster wrestling, and Car Wash of Doom, they were at least campy if you took sufficient amounts of acid.
Best First wrote:I thought we could just meander between making well thought out points, being needlessly immature, provocative and generalist, then veer into caring about constructive debate and make a few valid points, act civil for a bit, then lower the tone again, then act offended when we get called on it, then dictate what it is and isn't worth debating, reinterpret a few of my own posts through a less offensive lens, then jaunt down whatever other path our seemingly volatile mood took us in.
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What was great about the US Marvel comic (and even better with UK) was the continuity that existed between issues. Events ocurring in one issue had ramifications in later issues. The first few arcs of the Marvel series were great in that respect. Even when things got crazy with Hasbro insisting that new toys be included in every issue, Budiansky managed to put together a cool culmination of long time storylines in issue #50 with the ultimate chapter in the Underbase saga. I think that the US issues lost steam after #50 until Furman came on board.
The cartoon, on the other hand had loose continuity . . . at least until after TF: TM came out and Season 3 catapulted us into the future (which really sucked if your dad wouldn't take you to see TF: TM in the theatre). New autobots and decepticons would just show up on earth without much explanation.
The cartoon, on the other hand had loose continuity . . . at least until after TF: TM came out and Season 3 catapulted us into the future (which really sucked if your dad wouldn't take you to see TF: TM in the theatre). New autobots and decepticons would just show up on earth without much explanation.