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Over the last 25 years the Transformers have appeared in media from the exquisite to the scribbled and been licensed to the responsible and the... Pat Lee. Discussion of all the branches of TF media within!

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Post by Yaya » Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:08 pm

"But the Costa story featuring Starscream? Fantastic! This guy is "The One", I just know it, just from these few pages. "--Yaya, who is never wrong.

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Post by Hound » Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:28 pm

[composite word including 'f*ck'] me.

Aren't previews supposed to excite people?

Shouldn't they be wetting your appetite to actually go out and buy the thing?
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Post by Kaylee » Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:19 pm

That comic has to physically taste better than it reads.

Num num num.

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Post by snarl » Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:41 pm

Some ***** will buy this.
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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:02 pm

Err, that's a TF comic?
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Post by Yaya » Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:22 pm

This makes my concerted effort to not buy a TF comic for the first time in three decades that much easier.

I will, however, give in and by the trade for this. :cry: Help me, please. Somebody. I....I...have a problem......I...I buy ****....even when I know it's ****...... :cry:
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Post by bumblemusprime » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:39 pm

Yeayea,

Get thee to a bookstore. In the fantasy section, buy A Game of Thrones by George R.R. Martin and The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss. In the comic section, buy IncogNegro by Mat Johnson. In the "Literature" section, buy The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay by Michael Chabon and Middle Passage by Charles Johnson.

Rinse and repeat. Look, there are much better uses for your money!
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Post by bumblemusprime » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:47 pm

Oh ****, I left out the girls--go back to sf/fantasy, get everything by Octavia Butler, Susannah Clarke and Naomi Novik, grab Rapunzel's Revenge and Calamity Jack by Shannon Hale from YA comics, and... okay, I'm blanking on lit-fic-chicks. Ah well. You've spent enough by now.
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Post by Best First » Mon Aug 09, 2010 8:59 pm

Or get volumes 1-9 of Nikolai Dante.

I will but this - i have too much money.

I can tell you all how crap it is.
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Post by Yaya » Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:58 pm

bumblemusprime wrote:Yeayea,

Get thee to a bookstore. In the fantasy section, buy A Game of Thrones by George R.R. Martin and The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss. In the comic section, buy IncogNegro by Mat Johnson. In the "Literature" section, buy The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay by Michael Chabon and Middle Passage by Charles Johnson.

Rinse and repeat. Look, there are much better uses for your money!
Books? But...books are words without pictures.

Sigh. I will try these....books...you speak of.

I need a women.

Preferably one with a sci-fi bend. Preferably one who likes Transformers. Preferably one who is a Transformer..... :cry:...it's no use, I need my TF fix!!!!
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Post by bumblemusprime » Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:05 pm

You need to get laid on top of a pile of TF comics by a hot lady who makes the "kee-koo-koo-koo-kee" transforming sound when she climaxes. Is that what you mean to say?
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Post by Best First » Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:25 pm

Yaya wrote: I need a women.

Preferably one with a sci-fi bend.
like... robot knees?
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Post by Shanti418 » Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:49 pm

bumblemusprime wrote:You need to get laid on top of a pile of TF comics by a hot lady who makes the "kee-koo-koo-koo-kee" transforming sound when she climaxes. Is that what you mean to say?
It's possible. I had a bit of luck with a Super Mario Brothers post on craigslist a while back. :eek:

Speaking of women with a sci-fi kick, there a woman at my work who has Starfleet and Klingon logos on the front of her shoulders, and Rebel Alliance/Empire logos on the backs of her shoulders. Should I give her your number if she promises to add Autobot/Decepticon logos to her [insert inappropriate body part here]?

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Post by Yaya » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:21 pm

bumblemusprime wrote:You need to get laid on top of a pile of TF comics by a hot lady who makes the "kee-koo-koo-koo-kee" transforming sound when she climaxes. Is that what you mean to say?
:lol:

Yeah, but I'm afraid I might let out a "now all I need is a little energon...and a lot of luck..."
like... robot knees?
That's a start.
Should I give her your number if she promises to add Autobot/Decepticon logos to her [insert inappropriate body part here]?
The Klingon bit concerns me.
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Post by Kaylee » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:27 pm

Beggars apparently can be choosers.

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Post by Best First » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:30 pm

Karl wrote:Beggars apparently can be choosers.
*smirk*
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Post by Optimus Prime Rib » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:34 pm

Shanti418 wrote:
bumblemusprime wrote:You need to get laid on top of a pile of TF comics by a hot lady who makes the "kee-koo-koo-koo-kee" transforming sound when she climaxes. Is that what you mean to say?
It's possible. I had a bit of luck with a Super Mario Brothers post on craigslist a while back. :eek:

Speaking of women with a sci-fi kick, there a woman at my work who has Starfleet and Klingon logos on the front of her shoulders, and Rebel Alliance/Empire logos on the backs of her shoulders. Should I give her your number if she promises to add Autobot/Decepticon logos to her [insert inappropriate body part here]?
still the greatest craigslist ad ive ever come across.
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Post by bumblemusprime » Tue Aug 10, 2010 9:20 pm

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:
Shanti418 wrote:
bumblemusprime wrote:You need to get laid on top of a pile of TF comics by a hot lady who makes the "kee-koo-koo-koo-kee" transforming sound when she climaxes. Is that what you mean to say?
It's possible. I had a bit of luck with a Super Mario Brothers post on craigslist a while back. :eek:

Speaking of women with a sci-fi kick, there a woman at my work who has Starfleet and Klingon logos on the front of her shoulders, and Rebel Alliance/Empire logos on the backs of her shoulders. Should I give her your number if she promises to add Autobot/Decepticon logos to her [insert inappropriate body part here]?
still the greatest craigslist ad ive ever come across.
Though Yaya is currently in a position to outdo it.

"Seek hot nerdy lady, preferably with Decepticon tattoo, for sex synced up to 1986 animated Transformers movie. You will take off my pants at the line 'Arbulus, look! It's Unicron..."
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Post by Kaylee » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:06 pm

Casanova lives on.

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Post by Yaya » Tue Aug 10, 2010 10:30 pm

bumblemusprime wrote: Though Yaya is currently in a position to outdo it.

"Seek hot nerdy lady, preferably with Decepticon tattoo, for sex synced up to 1986 animated Transformers movie. You will take off my pants at the line 'Arbulus, look! It's Unicron..."
:)

As long as I don't find myself in an "open, damn it, why won't you open?" kind of situation...

Or worse, a "first we crack the shell, then we crack the nuts inside!" scenario.
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Post by Professor Smooth » Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:12 am

Once again. The sole purpose of humans in Transformers fiction has been to give young readers/viewers somebody to identify with. Somebody they could picture themselves as. If they were so important to the brand, it wouldn't have taken nearly twenty-five years to make toys out of human characters.

The main reason for having human characters featured so prominently in the live action movies related to the budget problems inherent to photo-realistically animating two hours of giant robots.

Kids don't read comic books. The very idea of spending 4 bucks per month, for half a year, to get through a single story is foreign to children. The millions of people introduced to Transformers by the live-action movies (by and large) do not read comics. "9 dollars every two years (for four years)" is how far their interest in Transformers goes. That's $27 dollars for the entire trilogy ($35 if they want to see it in IMAX/3-D). For that price they get robots, Megan Fox, childish jokes, and Shia LeBouf getting his ass handed to him. NOBODY is making the jump from the movies to monthly comics (beyond the first issue, at best).

The people who can, do, and WANT to buy Transformers comics want to read about TRANSFORMERS. When you let them do that, the sales (slowly, but surely) go up. Notice how sales of LSotW went up towards the end of the series? I'd expect sales of the trade to be higher than projected, as well.

There is a group of VERY loyal Transformers fans that wants to buy comics. It takes (took?) a lot to get them not to. Look at Yaya! He's hated the series since it started and he's STILL buying in hopes that it gets better! That same devotion is shared by a LOT of people. Enough to make TF comics worth making/selling.

The audiences for TF cartoons and movies demands a cast of human characters. The audiences for TF comics don't. They never will. And, if you think that what made the TF movies so profitable was the human cast, then you took the wrong lesson from them.

...Oh, and one other thing.

I don't dislike the current human-centric TF comics because of all the humans. I dislike them because they're not entertaining, poorly written, and pandering (although to who, I haven't a clue). It's not that I have a bias against human characters in Transformers. I didn't have a problem with them in any incarnation before (save the dubs of the Unicron trilogy, but that was a dubbing/translation issue). Spike, Buster, Daniel, Circuit Breaker, Sari, Hunter, etc. They were all fine. They added (in most cases) to the larger Transformers stories happening around them. They were not, however, the focal point of what seems like years worth of stories.

Dammit, IDW. Stop making obsessive fans want to stop reading Transformers comics.

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Post by Sunyavadin » Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:46 pm

Professor Smooth wrote: The main reason for having human characters featured so prominently in the live action movies related to the budget problems inherent to photo-realistically animating two hours of giant robots.
And remind me again how much Megan Fox and co. got for those abortions of cinema?

I really do suspect the opposite is in fact true.

Professor Smooth wrote:Kids don't read comic books. The very idea of spending 4 bucks per month, for half a year, to get through a single story is foreign to children.
A sad state of affairs for the industry, as in our generation WE were the bread and butter of the business. What happens if the twentysomethings of our generation are not replaced over the next few decades by kids who grew up on comics?
Professor Smooth wrote:The millions of people introduced to Transformers by the live-action movies (by and large) do not read comics.
And THIS is the inherent flaw in so many marketing ploys. Assuming your target audience in one industry and your target audience in another overlap. You'd think Hasbro would've been able to set them straight on this fact. It's not like they'd make a serious effort to invest in marketing My Little Pony to their Transformers customers, is it?

Professor Smooth wrote:Shia LeBouf getting his ass handed to him.
See, if this WAS all the film was about, I'd pay to see him play Hunter. And spend 2 hours being tortured by the insecticons.

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Post by Optimus Prime Rib » Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:26 pm

Sunyavadin wrote: It's not like they'd make a serious effort to invest in marketing My Little Pony to their Transformers customers, is it?
http://mylittletransformer.com/main.html

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Post by bumblemusprime » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:15 am

Didn't Aaron create that site?
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Post by Professor Smooth » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:20 am

Sunyavadin wrote:
And remind me again how much Megan Fox and co. got for those abortions of cinema?
Shia Lebouf reportedly got paid $500,000. Megan Fox got $300,000 That doesn't buy a whole lot of photo-realistic robot screen-time.

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Post by Optimus Prime Rib » Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:29 am

Professor Smooth wrote:
Sunyavadin wrote:
And remind me again how much Megan Fox and co. got for those abortions of cinema?
Shia Lebouf reportedly got paid $500,000. Megan Fox got $300,000 That doesn't buy a whole lot of photo-realistic robot screen-time.
so either one of them can afford to pay me back the money I wasted on it? But nothing can give me back my time.
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