Transformers ROTF

AutobotGirl · Post by **AutobotGirl** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:46 pm

Trasfomers ROTF was awsome!

(thats what i was like the whole time)

IronHide · Post by **IronHide** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:00 pm

I had that same look when they showed Dev's balls.

Mr_Tigg · Post by **Mr_Tigg** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:17 pm

Eh? Are you for real? It was a shocking film. Bad humour, little to no plot, terrible pacing, boring action scenes, logic holes, rubbish transformers - ROTF had it all.

Couldn't believe it was the same team of writers who had helped reimagine the excellent star trek movie.

Post by **Best First** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:21 pm

Mr_Tigg wrote:Eh? Are you for real? It was a shocking film. Bad humour, little to no plot, terrible pacing, boring action scenes, logic holes, rubbish transformers - ROTF had it all.

That's Transfans code for 'welcome' by the way.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:28 am

I give it..... 7/10. I advise leaving brain at door and bringing plenty popcorn.

Welcome to Transfans.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:58 am

Star Trek was spectacularly mediocre and full of crap humour and assaults on logic too.

RotF was good fun. It's no Apocalypse Now, but anybody expecting it to be needs their head checking.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:55 pm

ROTF was a ****** diaster flick that thoroughly raped my childhood and quite honestly left a bad taste in my mouth for all things Transformers.

And it shouldn't, because it was Bayformers, but I'm having a hard time disassociating this movie from the thing that has given me so much joy over the years.

[composite word including 'f*ck'] you, Bay.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:08 pm

Yaya wrote:thoroughly raped my childhood and quite honestly left a bad taste in my mouth for all things Transformers.

That's exactly how I feel about All Hail Megatron. Apart from the "raped my childhood" part, because that's just melodramatic and my childhood consisted of more than TF.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:33 pm

AutobotGirl wrote:Trasfomers ROTF was awsome! (thats what i was like the whole time)

Mr_Tigg wrote:Eh? Are you for real? It was a shocking film. Bad humour, little to no plot, terrible pacing, boring action scenes, logic holes, rubbish transformers - ROTF had it all.

Interestingly, "awesome" and "awful" have the same root - "consisting of, or containing, awe", and so without any expansion by the author, do we really know if AutobotGirl liked or hated the film, beyond being in awe of it?

Brendocon wrote:That's exactly how I feel about All Hail Megatron. Apart from the "raped my childhood" part, because that's just melodramatic and my childhood consisted of more than TF.

Maybe you're just not fan enough to regard Transformers as your own personal property and therefore do not consider yourself to have the right to take affrontage at any deviation from the historic perspective of your all-consuming obsession.

Or maybe you just take all in your stride and are more moderate with your interests.

Post by **Best First** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:54 pm

Rebis wrote: Maybe you're just not fan enough to regard Transformers as your own personal property and therefore do not consider yourself to have the right to take affrontage at any deviation from the historic perspective of your all-consuming obsession.

Or maybe you just take all in your stride and are more moderate with your interests.

I always knew this Brenda chap wasn't a Real Fan (TM).

Foooooooooooooooooooooor shame.

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:02 pm

Reba wrote: Interestingly, "awesome" and "awful" have the same root - "consisting of, or containing, awe", and so without any expansion by the author, do we really know if AutobotGirl liked or hated the film, beyond being in awe of it?

Beware: he will try to ensnare you with word games. Keep your wits about you and don't wish for more wishes.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:30 pm

Brendocon wrote: my childhood consisted of more than TF.

Mine.... did not.

Actually, I think back to '84 and there was so much to love then. I was big into Star Wars, Michael Jackson, breakdancing, 80's music, tennis, Indiana Jones, etc.

But I really think that, of all those things, Transformers provided me the most fun.

Mr_Tigg · Post by **Mr_Tigg** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:01 pm

Brendocon wrote:Star Trek was spectacularly mediocre and full of crap humour and assaults on logic too.

RotF was good fun. It's no Apocalypse Now, but anybody expecting it to be needs their head checking.

I think both films respective ratings on rotten tomatoes summarise just which one was "full of crap humour" and an "assault on logic".

Don't get me started on RoTF, it was a mess of a movie.

I probably should apologise to Autobotgirl though. Nothing personal, just a combination of the fact that RoTF is a sore point and that Transfans is traditionally a place for complaining about what's wrong with the franchise!

IronHide · Post by **IronHide** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:02 am

I think we scared her off....

Prolly for the best, tends to get a bit rowdy around with fanboy rage around these parts.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:44 am

Mr_Tigg wrote:I think both films respective ratings on rotten tomatoes summarise just which one was "full of crap humour" and an "assault on logic".

I think I don't need to pay attention to the averaged opinion of People On The Internet to see that both films had massive plot holes and know which one made me laugh more.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:21 am

Brendocon wrote:
Mr_Tigg wrote:I think both films respective ratings on rotten tomatoes summarise just which one was "full of crap humour" and an "assault on logic".
I think I don't need to pay attention to the averaged opinion of People On The Internet to see that both films had massive plot holes and know which one made me laugh more.

Wellll, RT are top critics more than random net nerds... which counts for a little (not a lot) more.

Gotta say, I preferred Star Trek.

Post by **Best First** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:23 am

If that is now the debate then Star Trek all the way.

On a seperate note finally saw Watchmen and thought it was about as good as it could be, although it faded off a bit at the end (not the big change, more the little ones around it).

I think the important thing with ROTF is when i say i enjoyed it don't misconstrue that as me not understanding it was sh*t cos i do. It was an enjoyable sh*t. Don't tell me you haven't done one of those.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:21 pm

Best First wrote:If that is now the debate then Star Trek all the way.

I probably enjoyed it more too, but the main crux of the argument is "can you believe these two films were scripted by the same people".

Which, from where I'm lounging seductively, is a definite "well, yeah."

Directorial and production differences aside, I've got no trouble believing the scripts shared a writing team. Naff science, too much humour that isn't really that funny, stilted relationship-related stuff. Present in both, sir. Main difference is that Trek had a different agenda as far as what gimmicks and plot devices to throw in.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:22 pm

I liked Watchmen... and the change at the end actually made sense. I'm holding out on buying the DVD tho, in case the Director's Cut is better.

The love scene was a little cringy tho...

Brendocon wrote:I've got no trouble believing the scripts shared a writing team. Naff science, too much humour that isn't really that funny, stilted relationship-related stuff. Present in both, sir. Main difference is that Trek had a different agenda as far as what gimmicks and plot devices to throw in.

I do get the impression with ST that they were at least trying tho.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:44 pm

Best First wrote: On a seperate note finally saw Watchmen .

As did I. Last week, in fact. And I actually thought it was good.

The story has always been 'meh' with me. I liked it because I thought the visuals were very well done, as was the music. Almost like they were going for a Crow-like vibe, which was smart. The acting wasn't that bad either, actually.

Overall, I'd say it was a better movie than The Darknight, which has to be one of the most overrated movies in history.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:34 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:I do get the impression with ST that they were at least trying tho.

Oh yes. Rehashing a much-loved-by-helpless-geeks plot is certainly going to get their creativity going a bit more than "plug teh toyz, here's teh explosion."

I thought Watchmen was serviceable. Solid and workable, but really spectacular, and I can't see myself having enjoyed it if I hadn't already read the book.

As Besty says, the smaller changes kinda made the whole climax fall a bit flat. But I've bemoaned that elsewhere. Thought some of the acting was shocking though, Adrian in specific.

Vaguely interested to see the director's cut of the film, but certainly can't see myself ever buying any version of the movie on DVD. If I want to revisit the story, I'll go and read the book... it doesn't have bits chopped out or changed, doesn't have wooden acting, doesn't have entire characters missing and dialogue attributed to the wrong characters, doesn't have a gratuitous "look at me" fight scene kicking things off and undermining the murder mystery the story is meant to unfold under the cover of... and doesn't have Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah thrown in for no discernable reason whatsococking ever when they bought the rights to the correct song anyway.

AutobotGirl · Post by **AutobotGirl** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:12 pm

Well i liked it. People how say it was terribale are just jeoluse they could not come up with something as cool as Transformers.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:24 pm

AutobotGirl wrote:People how say it was terribale are just jeoluse they could not come up with something as cool as Transformers.

Yes.

Yes. That'll be it.

That'll definitely be it.

AutobotGirl · Post by **AutobotGirl** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:26 pm

are you being sarcastic?

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:28 pm

Me? No. Never.

AutobotGirl · Post by **AutobotGirl** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:29 pm

E.J.Su · Post by **E.J.Su** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:04 pm

I hate it when someone else came up with great ideas such as robotic testicles. Especially there are no wrecking balls on any of the Constructicons!! BRILLIANT!!

AutobotGirl · Post by **AutobotGirl** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:06 pm

That was funny

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:16 pm

E.J.Su wrote:I hate it when someone else came up with great ideas such as robotic testicles. Especially there are no wrecking balls on any of the Constructicons!! BRILLIANT!!

A Proposal For Mister Furman:

Transformers: Testiculation

AutobotGirl · Post by **AutobotGirl** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:45 pm