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Post by Brendocon » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:20 pm

"I wear them when I'm defunct."

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Post by Professor Smooth » Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:59 pm

About the "can't read," thing...

It's not that they're illiterate. They can't read ancient Cybertronian symbols. Neither can Bumblebee or Wheelie. That's the whole point of finding Jetfire.

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Post by IronHide » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:19 pm

Brendocon wrote: You do if it's also the key to activate a sun-destroying doom machine. Well, Prime would. "Yes, it can save the lives of individual Transformers, but it also has the capacity for great blah blah boring yawn".

Seriously, it's such an Op thing to do.
Id buy that if that was at least said. But it was just thrown to the wayside. "Oh the Matrix? What was that for again? Some kind of ultimate sign of leadership? I thought it was some wicked lookin boomerang. Should we go get it? Nah, f it, everyone get on the big aircraft carrier!"

Not like it ruined the movie for me, but I was definitely expecting a little more story (I know, Baysplosion movies dont use a plot...).

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Post by Sunyavadin » Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:50 am

Eh. I might pay attention if it comes on tv when I'm at a friend's place sometime. Otherwise sounds like a miss to me.

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Post by bumblemusprime » Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:56 pm

This is pretty damn weird. I wrote the review for Fantasy Magazine and because I referenced the movie Up, someone made it look like a review of that movie.

"There's no robot testicles in Up..."

http://www.darkfantasy.org/fantasy/?p=4026

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Post by IronHide » Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:26 am

Hahaha. You got hosed.

Nice fanboy rage btw.

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Post by bumblemusprime » Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:48 am

Gasp! Does it show?

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Post by Sunyavadin » Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:54 pm

One of my friends today refused to believe me about the testicles.
Even when I provided links to several reviews that mention them.

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Post by Best First » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:00 pm

Not seen this but has no one coined the term Decepticles yet?
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Post by IronHide » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:33 pm

I was goin with Devascrotum. Decepticles is a pretty good one though....

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Post by spiderfrommars » Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:35 pm

The critics' negative reviews are OTT. Yes, this is a fairly stupid film, but unlike a lot of stupid action films this one remembers to be enjoyable and fun too. I guess if a live action Transformers film took itself too seriously it'd be a laughing stock. Meanwhile something like Terminator: Salvation comes across as stupid and pofaced at the same time because it's trying so hard to make a statement.

Really my main criticism is that the last fight scene went on way too long. When the scene switches to Egypt Sam and Michaela's story really does go on the backburner (the humans continue to be the most surprising element in these films to me - apart from his college roomate tho). The final action scenes were just anti-climactic really - they were trumped by some of the earlier more original smackdowns.

And yes, not a big fan of Skids and Mudflap either. But whilst they're the kind of characters that would kill a Star Wars film, they just about get away with it here.

The TX college girl was a transformation disguise too far.

So has this TF Universe already got 2 TFs with the same name? (Devastator)

Who did Jetfire's voice? Sounded familiar. We really should have been made to care more when he got killed off.

I could have done without Prime executing the 'con at the start.

But hey, we got a lot more TFs this time round, a lot more TFs verbal interaction as well as fisticuffs, and the sense of a much bigger TF universe.

And if you need a reason to cheer up about this movie, just look at the state of the upcoming Gi-Joe flick. Oh deary deary me.

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Post by Aaron Hong » Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:18 am

spiderfrommars wrote:
Who did Jetfire's voice? Sounded familiar. We really should have been made to care more when he got killed off.
It was John Turturro. Heh, not the first time in a TF movie someone did more than one role. :D

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Post by NeoSpringer » Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:40 am

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Who did Jetfire's voice? Sounded familiar. We really should have been made to care more when he got killed off.
It was John Turturro. Heh, not the first time in a TF movie someone did more than one role. :D
I think actually it is Mark Ryan (the 'voice' of Bumblebee also, not that he ever says anything).

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Post by Professor Smooth » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:35 am

Watched it again.

Simmons says, "I wear 'em when I'm in a funk."

I still think Michaela says, "F***ing DO something!" though.

Prime executing Demolishor was a bit much for me. I didn't mind Skids and Mudflap, because they accomplished exactly what they were supposed to do. The idea that NEST (or any military organization) would fly halfway around the world without authorization is ludicrous, but, again, giant robots...

But, and I know I've said it before, the good parts of this movie were SO GOOD, that I'm willing to forgive the film as a whole.

The blu-ray version of the movie is going to be chopped up in some TRULY amazing ways. Music videos, fan edits, the works. I can't wait!

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Post by IronHide » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:26 am

Apparently Ms. Fox agrees that TFRoTF (Ha! RoTF....) is less about the acting and more about blowing crap up.

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/us-maga ... x-bay.html

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Post by Sunyavadin » Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:24 am

"Well, that's Megan Fox for you," Bay tell the Wall Street Journal. "She says some very ridiculous things because she's 23 years old and she still has a lot of growing to do."

In response to her claims that special effects alone cannot carry a film.

100% proof that Bay knows NOTHING about making films. If it were needed. But we have his back catalogue as evidence of that already.

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Post by Guest » Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:13 am

Sunyavadin wrote:100% proof that Bay knows NOTHING about making films. If it were needed. But we have his back catalogue as evidence of that already.
I liked the bit where Bay states: "Nick Cage wasn't a big actor when I cast him, nor was Ben Affleck before I put him in 'Armageddon.' Shia LaBeouf wasn't a big movie star before he did 'Transformers' -- and then he exploded. Not to mention Will Smith and Martin Lawrence, from 'Bad Boys'"

It's almost as if Bay doesn't recognise films if they're not packed full of 'action' and explosions.

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Post by Professor Smooth » Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:28 am

Cage was already pretty big. Ditto for Will Smith. I'm pretty sure Affleck had already won an Academy Award (not for acting, but...)

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Post by bumblemusprime » Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:56 am

LaBeouf was in "Holes" when he was fifteen or so, which made a ton of money and got crazy-good reviews.

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Post by Professor Smooth » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:07 am

bumblemusprime wrote:LaBeouf was in "Holes" when he was fifteen or so, which made a ton of money and got crazy-good reviews.
And also, was quite good.

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Post by Predabot » Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:21 pm

Soo... I've seen it myself now too. And it's quite the ride. I'm having trouble deciding if it's worse or better than the first one tho... Some parts are better and just more, and some parts are worse.

For instance, the death of Optimus Prime could have carried a whole lot more weight. The animated death actually feels like it's more well-done.

On the other hand, the fight-scenes where just outstanding this time around, and contrary to what one would think, there are a few times where the action is slowed down a slight bit and easier to follow.

I think it may actually be one of those rare movies wherein the sequel is neither better nor worse, simply equal. Huh.

And I think I'm the only one that kind of think the Twins sort of worked... :D

All in all, I'd say it's a 4/5. A lot like the first movie.


So.. this movie had Pretenders, combiners of various kinds, and triple-changers. Anybody else figure they'll whip out some of the masters-types and friggin' Trypticon to top this in the next one?

Btw, how many movies do you think there'll be in this series?? I'm seeing talk about 5-6 of 'em! In theory one *could* keep upping the stakes and the scope until we reach something like All Fall Down, with Uni making his debute, but I doubt it can sustain itself until the 6th movie. I feel more like #5 is the max, in regards upping the transformery-ness and action.
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And also, was quite good.
And also is a movie I have never, ever heard of...

You're all quite correct on the other lads tho. But LaBeouf really did get his big international super-break with TF. IMHO, of course.

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Post by Ultrasabre » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:06 pm

ok, i have something that needs clarification here. At the end of the movie during the last big fight scene after the constucticons combined into devastator, they showed ironhide, ratchet and the miitary engaging the decepticons. It looked like they were fighting the constructicons as well.. or was there just a bunch of construction vehicle decepticons?
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Post by wideload » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:01 am

Ultrasabre wrote:ok, i have something that needs clarification here. At the end of the movie during the last big fight scene after the constucticons combined into devastator, they showed ironhide, ratchet and the miitary engaging the decepticons. It looked like they were fighting the constructicons as well.. or was there just a bunch of construction vehicle decepticons?
If it occured after Devastator was taken down it could have been either. There were construction vehicle decepticons throughout the movie. It was never really clear if all of them became part of devastator or not.

After devastator broke apart the pieces could have gotten up and fought.

Although I'm guessing the more likely scenario is that they were the robots that rebuilt Megatron that came from the boat.

As for the bad reviews of this movie....WTF... seriously this movie delivers everything it promises. No the plot isn't Shakespeare, but as far as mindless sci-fi/action movies go it held itself together well enough. Maybe they should stop getting stuck up ***** to review movies like this.

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Post by wideload » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:10 am

Sorry,

I should also add that there are multiple constructicon clones of each one. For instance, all robots that look like a cement mixer are called mixmaster.

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Post by Yaya » Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:16 pm

Saw it last night.

I went in with my brain turned off, anticipating this movie to be something I should evaluate based on what it's meant to be, a mindless summer action flick. I've experienced plenty of those before, so I knew how to approach this film.

Even that didn't save me from the trauma of this experience.

The movie starts off fun like the last, chasing Demolisher down a freeway. At this point, I was thinking, "Okay, this is cool. I think the critics got this wrong".

But as the movie progressed, I slowly felt my brain sludgify and seep out of my ears. To echo what's been previously stated, how many sexual innuendos and raunchy jokes have to be in a movie before it irreversibly violates the sancitity of a property based on a childhood toy?

I mean we get, not one, not two, but three scenes of something humping Megan Fox's leg. If it's not a dog, it's a robot. We get giant dangling robot testicles. We get newly transformed kitchen appliances shooting their load at Shia. We get a college campus of hooched out Cindy Crawford clones, one of which is a seductress Pretender. We get twins robots calling each other "pussy" and "bitch".

I'm all for gearing things towards an adult audience. But if "Up" can achieve this without stooping to such base lows, why the [composite word including 'f*ck'] can't Transformers? There's got to be a happy medium.

What's more, we suffer through a two hour commercial for the U.S. Army, where every single weapon is on full display for what seems like an eternity. Even the irrepressible John Tuturro is forced to back down to a naval officer. Okay. We get it. The army is tough.

We again get giant robots that look like a pile of metal shavings that, when in combat with one another, become so indistinct that you can't tell where one ends and the other begins. I mean, couldn't they have improved on this?

We get probably one of the most annoying characters in film history in Sam's Hispanic college roomate. The whole movie I found myself wishing some bot would step on his ass.

We get what seems like an eternity of time spent on Sam's annoying parents. Come on, Bay. People liked them in the first movie because they were given to us in a limited dosage. For this movie, Bay shoves them in our faces, as if to say "Here they are again! Laugh, everyone, laugh!" They're just not funny anymore.

We get Transformers being born in Alien like eggs on the moon. We get Transformers farting out parachutes.

The critics had it right. This movie is a bomb. It has nothing to do with being able to evaluate it in a certain context.

It has to do with this movie being utter garbage.

1.5 out of 4 stars.
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Post by Magna Prime » Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:31 pm

Brendocon wrote:I personally thought Skids and Mudflap were awesome. Two idiot alpha-male bulls**t adolescents who think they're the shizzle. It's JD and Turk in robot form.
Thank you for this, it sums up my feelings on those two perfectly.
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Post by Ultrasabre » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:27 pm

wideload wrote:
Ultrasabre wrote:ok, i have something that needs clarification here. At the end of the movie during the last big fight scene after the constucticons combined into devastator, they showed ironhide, ratchet and the miitary engaging the decepticons. It looked like they were fighting the constructicons as well.. or was there just a bunch of construction vehicle decepticons?
If it occured after Devastator was taken down it could have been either. There were construction vehicle decepticons throughout the movie. It was never really clear if all of them became part of devastator or not.

After devastator broke apart the pieces could have gotten up and fought.

Although I'm guessing the more likely scenario is that they were the robots that rebuilt Megatron that came from the boat.

As for the bad reviews of this movie....WTF... seriously this movie delivers everything it promises. No the plot isn't Shakespeare, but as far as mindless sci-fi/action movies go it held itself together well enough. Maybe they should stop getting stuck up ***** to review movies like this.


ya no this clarified nothing for me sry. :( Devastator formed and then the camera swtiches to the military where they are knee deep in a gunfight with the decepticons. You clearly see at least 3 of the constructicons engaging that battle and it doesn't make any sense cuz they just formed devastator.. >> Like unless there is something to explain that thats kind of an unexplainable HUGE blooper.. You even here soundwave say "rampage, spring the trap" and rampage is supposed to be Bonecrusher... he says this well after devastator was formed.


I do agree with what u said bout the negative reviews.. IGN's is by far the most horrible I"ve read yet.. I swear that tard grew up watchin "my lil pony" and played is &&*(ing PSP during the movie.. >>
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Post by The Last Autobot » Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:08 am

Ultrasabre wrote: You even here soundwave say "rampage, spring the trap"
Starscream told Rampage that.


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Post by Sunyavadin » Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:04 am

I can't believe people in the pub tonight were bitching about TORCHWOOD.


When THIS exists.

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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:10 am

torchwood was utter ****, but then TF2 was even worse...
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