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by Best First » Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:51 pm
Brendocon wrote:BB Shockwave wrote:But then, that's what we love in Starscream, no?
Love? Starscream? Seriously?
A series is lucky if it provokes anything other than indifference towards the character from me.
Seriously, he's rubbish. And uses up valuable storytime that would be better devoted to the likes of Spinister and the Firecons.
He speaks truth.
But he forgot Flywheels.
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by Legion » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:00 pm
BB Shockwave wrote:Guzzle
Now you're talking!
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by Yaya » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:51 pm
Brendocon wrote:
Seriously, he's rubbish.
Funny thing is if you look at most TF polls for favorite bots, Prime is always #1 and Starscream, not Megs, is always #2 seems like.
"But the Costa story featuring Starscream? Fantastic! This guy is "The One", I just know it, just from these few pages. "--Yaya, who is never wrong.
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by Hot Shot » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:20 pm
Yaya wrote:Brendocon wrote:
Seriously, he's rubbish.
Funny thing is if you look at most TF polls for favorite bots, Prime is always #1 and Starscream, not Megs, is always #2 seems like.
True, but if Starscream fangirls weren't allowed to vote...
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by Yaya » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:46 pm
Hot Shot wrote:Yaya wrote:Brendocon wrote:
Seriously, he's rubbish.
Funny thing is if you look at most TF polls for favorite bots, Prime is always #1 and Starscream, not Megs, is always #2 seems like.
True, but if Starscream fangirls weren't allowed to vote...
What is it with Starscream and fangirls, anyway? I don't get it.
Maybe I should try to be more backstabbing, more coniving.
And here I thought flowers were the key.
"But the Costa story featuring Starscream? Fantastic! This guy is "The One", I just know it, just from these few pages. "--Yaya, who is never wrong.
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by Jack Cade » Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:25 pm
Yaya wrote:I always regretted your, shall we say, strained relationship with IDW, as I think you would be quite competent in writing TF.
Nice of you to say so. I'm completely untested at comic writing though. I had a crack at a half-spotlight -
here - but as you'll be able to tell quite quickly, I've got too many words for panels. Not to mention I'm not much of an artist. I'm fairly confident I could do a better job than McCarthy on the writing if I practiced for a bit and devoted a lot of time to it, but I always tend to have other priorities.
I'd really like to write the Firecons though, particularly Sparkstalker. Really like the idea of a talented cryptographer/hacker being thrown in with two loonies.[/code]
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by bumblemusprime » Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:23 pm
JonJackCadeStone,
I rather liked it. Don't slam your art; there are some really good shots in there. Wildman/Baskerville-esque, of the Unicron Saga variety. And something fishy going on with Bumblebee; nice twist. I'm trying to decide whether he ordered the weapon made that was too dreadful to use. (That was, by the way, the name of the first thing Isaac Asimov ever wrote--The Weapon Too Dreadful To Use.)
I've had problems with too many words on the page when writing comics as well--I think it's common for new comic writers to overestimate it. (Spotlight: Jazz has that problem in a few places.) My solutions have been to either chop the dialogue down, down down: ie, "I gotta keep an optic on you, Professor. I've been hearing worrying things about what goes on here, numbers not adding up where they should. They found pieces of a corpse floating in space" to: "I'm worried, Professor. I hear things about this place. About pieces of a corpse floating in space."
or
When you've got a page that is totally overcrowded, take Photoshop and split it into two pages, then draw the fill-in panels. Which is a pain in the tuchuss. And extends the comic, which means you have to cut other things.
Anyway, you shouldn't quit--you could do at least as well as SL: J. And I liked SL: J.
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by Yaya » Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:40 pm
bumblemusprime wrote:
I've had problems with too many words on the page when writing comics as well--I think it's common for new comic writers to overestimate it.
See, I think the problem with comics is that there are too
few words, not too many.
Likely, it's really dependent on the artist, whether or not he or she effectively conveys what the writer is trying to produce.
The comics that seem to work well usually tend to be dialogue heavy though, like the Kup Spotlight.
Moreover, I think a dialogue heavy comic tends to feel less like a rip off because the experience lasts longer. At $3.99 a pop, I like to feel like I got my moneys worth.
"But the Costa story featuring Starscream? Fantastic! This guy is "The One", I just know it, just from these few pages. "--Yaya, who is never wrong.
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by bumblemusprime » Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:01 pm
For the first two paragraphs I was like, "Chuck Austin on X-Men? This guy is the biggest idiot... oh."
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by Hound » Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:22 pm
That was brilliant. I hope that is posted at the IDW forums!
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by Jack Cade » Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:53 pm
Don't think it would necessarily find the right audience there!
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by Best First » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:19 pm
Yes but surely all we use the IDW site for is cheap yuks these days?
Lovely stuff.
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by Jack Cade » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:44 pm
Not saying I don't think someone should ...
Actually, I still think there's something of a decent community there. It's just a shame there's been this precedent set of overzealous policing so that a ranty post that should just be ignored or chuckled at instead results in half the board waiting eagerly to see the inevitable pile-in.
I met a few people from the IDW board today actually, for Furman's signing in Forbidden Planet. They were thoroughly likeable! Didn't take the board antics too seriously and generally on board with 'our side' about AHM. I meant to mention it over here, but the meet-up was a bit last minute. Maybe another one should be had when he does his Orbital signing?
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Forgot to say thanks to Sprunk. Thanks, Sprunk! Always useful to know people's thoughts on this sort of thing when considering what to do with my creative resources.
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by Mr_Tigg » Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:04 pm
Jack Cade wrote:Not saying I don't think someone should ...
Actually, I still think there's something of a decent community there. It's just a shame there's been this precedent set of overzealous policing so that a ranty post that should just be ignored or chuckled at instead results in half the board waiting eagerly to see the inevitable pile-in.
I met a few people from the IDW board today actually, for Furman's signing in Forbidden Planet. They were thoroughly likeable! Didn't take the board antics too seriously and generally on board with 'our side' about AHM. I meant to mention it over here, but the meet-up was a bit last minute. Maybe another one should be had when he does his Orbital signing?
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Forgot to say thanks to Sprunk. Thanks, Sprunk! Always useful to know people's thoughts on this sort of thing when considering what to do with my creative resources.
Dammit Jack why didn't you remind me??? I was the one who told you about it! I was really keen to get some of my trades signed
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by Jack Cade » Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:23 pm
I think you reminded me of it, Mr. Tigg, but I already knew it was happening! He is doing this later signing! You should go to that! Failing that, you can come round and look at my signed Max Dinos copies ...
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by stranger » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:37 pm
When is the signing at Orbital Comics? A little gutted I had to miss todays one...
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by Mr_Tigg » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:30 pm
Yeh when is Orbital signing Jack?
Still can't believe you didn't ask me, I even facebooked you about it dammit!
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by Jack Cade » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:39 pm
Dude! I only remembered it myself last night! It's June 27th - bit later than I thought, but gives people more time to clear the date, eh?
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by BB Shockwave » Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:40 am
Jack Cade wrote:Yaya wrote:I always regretted your, shall we say, strained relationship with IDW, as I think you would be quite competent in writing TF.
Nice of you to say so. I'm completely untested at comic writing though. I had a crack at a half-spotlight -
here - but as you'll be able to tell quite quickly, I've got too many words for panels. Not to mention I'm not much of an artist. I'm fairly confident I could do a better job than McCarthy on the writing if I practiced for a bit and devoted a lot of time to it, but I always tend to have other priorities.
I'd really like to write the Firecons though, particularly Sparkstalker. Really like the idea of a talented cryptographer/hacker being thrown in with two loonies.[/code]
Man, I just read this... and it ROCKS! You should be given a Spotlight to write, not the guys who wrote Jazz...
You have really gotten this one right - the air of mystery, WJ's determination and then the dreadful realization that he himself did it... And Dead End is a great choice for the Con prisoner here. (he's one of my personal favourites btw - when I was a kid, 20 or so years ago, I could muster up enough money to buy one of the Stunticons - I choose Dead End).
And... funny you should mention Sparkstalker and the Firecons. I have written a sort-of Spotlight of the little guy titled "The Con who wasn't there", who is one of my fav. Cons - it doesn't take place in any defined universe, and is sort of an "endgame" story anyway, like the UK annual story "Peace". I will have to translate it to english one day (it's in hungarian currently)will send it to you if you'r interested!
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