Transformers Who Ain't Died

Jack Cade · Post by **Jack Cade** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:25 pm

The recent cullings in TF:A and AHM have caused me to realise that few, if any, of my favourite Transformers have come through all the various media without being 'killed' at some point.

Sunstreaker, of course, has already been brutally eviscerated by Shockwave, although I suppose he was never technically dead. He certainly seems to have bought it this time.

Bumbebee's been down and out at the hands of Death's Head.

Prowl and Ratchet - massacre of '86.

Red Alert - uncharacteristic G2 heroism.

Even Guzzle (for whom I have some affection because I loved the toy) met a 'smashed Lego' end in one of them future tales. Same with all the Throttlebots, during the Underbase saga.

Have there been any survivors at all?

Post by **snarl** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:55 pm

Did Ultra Magnus ever die?

Soundwave?

Destron · Post by **Destron** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:20 pm

What about the Constructicons? Unless we decide they indeed were destroyed in TF: Zone...

The Last Autobot · Post by **The Last Autobot** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:24 pm

snarl wrote:Did Ultra Magnus ever die?

Killed by Sixshot in Headmasters and brought back many years later in japan g2

Soundwave?

Killed and brought back -as a redeco- in Headmasters
Beheaded in Spotlight Mirage

Sunstreaker, of course, has already been brutally eviscerated by Shockwave, although I suppose he was never technically dead. He certainly seems to have bought it this time.

He was deactivated up until the great battle with Unicron in Marvel US 75.

Post by **Best First** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:33 pm

Yeah Guzzle buys it in Rythems of Darkness.

Man i love Guzzle.

Pipes, who i have similar affection for, does not buy it anywhere that i am aware of.

Basically i think if you are a bit obscure you have a better chance.

Hmm - Clifffjumper? Trailbreaker? Tracks? Hoist? Grimlock?

Hang on Grimmers dies in Alignment doesn't he?

I guess in the UK annual story Peace it is basically implied that every con buys it - so that's all of them ruled out!

What about best death? I vote Shockers at the hands of DH - no sense of doubt left in that one.

Destron · Post by **Destron** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:43 pm

Dinobots, excluding Grimlock, maybe? Afair the only time they weren't fully operational was just before the nucleon story and noone considered them to be dead then.

Best First wrote:Grimlock?

Ratchet is said to bring Grimlock back from the dead as a pretender (among Bumblebee and Jazz) sometime during the Marvel run.

Jack Cade · Post by **Jack Cade** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:03 pm

Best First wrote:What about best death?

Cyclonus!

Destron · Post by **Destron** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:17 pm

Best First wrote:What about best death?

Scorponok, naturally. No contest here.

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:56 pm

Sideswipe?

Skids maybe? Although he did spend a period in Limbo

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:02 am

Grimlock: dare I say War Within 3? Noone knows for certain what happened there. At least noone I am aware of ever got to see the end of that series.

The fact that it was am Impactor knockoff death doesnt detract from the fact that he got owned.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:03 am

Best First wrote: What about best death? I vote Shockers at the hands of DH - no sense of doubt left in that one.

Good one, but the best death was Scrounge in the Smelting Pool.

Followed by Starscream in the movie at the hands of Galvatron. No coming back from that one. Wait! He did come back. As a ghost. A freakin TF ghost!

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:08 am

I would have to agree that Scrounge was the best death that I can think of. Skorponok a close second. Or vice versa

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:25 am

snarl wrote:Did Ultra Magnus ever die?

There was that little "Sweeps! Terminate him!" moment.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:58 am

bumblemusprime wrote:
snarl wrote:Did Ultra Magnus ever die?
There was that little "Sweeps! Terminate him!" moment.

always wondered about that. He gets blown to pieces and put back together like a giant Humpty Dumpty with a 'yes we can" attitude, and yet prime takes one to the chest and is toast.

Hell Prowl got aced with a regular blast.

Post by **Best First** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:19 am

Yeah, imagine his shock when he didn't just fall over and get up again.

Fair point on Scorpy - i may have to reasses that one.

Edit - actually, as much as its pretty implicit that more or less every con is dead in 'Peace' the same is true of the Autobot's in Rythems of Darkness isn't it?

Still not happy that Inferno gets killed by having a freaking building dropped on his head in G2.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:45 am

Woah, it feels like I've inadvertently wandered into a Transfans thread circa 2002...

snarl wrote:Did Ultra Magnus ever die?

Looked pretty dead at the end of Time Wars.

snarl wrote:Soundwave?

Got blasted in the Underbase saga.

Hound wrote:
Skids maybe? Although he did spend a period in Limbo

Another Underbase casualty.

Best First wrote:Hoist? Grimlock?

Underbase, again!

Best First wrote:Clifffjumper?

Aced by Soundwave in Dinobot Hunt.

Best First wrote:Trailbreaker?

Scourge got him in Target 2006.

Best First wrote:Tracks?

Bought the farm at some point before Makin' Tracks.

Jack Cade wrote:Sunstreaker, of course, has already been brutally eviscerated by Shockwave, although I suppose he was never technically dead.

Heh, he was dead for frickin' ages. Taken out in only the fourth ever story. When he came back in Perchance to Dream it was a pretty big deal.

Hmmm, this has put me in the mood to read some old TF comics...

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:21 am

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:There was that little "Sweeps! Terminate him!" moment.

always wondered about that. He gets blown to pieces and put back together like a giant Humpty Dumpty with a 'yes we can" attitude, and yet prime takes one to the chest and is toast.[/quote]

That's because Ultra Magnus is hardcore, whilst Prime's a little girl who dies on a regular basis.

I mean seriously, even before TF:TM he'd already been killed through his own stupidity ("hey! the cool kids have guns!") and gone missing without explanation for four million years. It's no real wonder that Elita One wasn't too cut-up when he died fighting Megatron.

And that's just in the cartoon!

Seriously, back on Cybertron they likely held funerals for him every time he fell over.

... where the [composite word including 'f*ck'] was I? Right, yeah.

Grimlock? Grimlock's unkilled surely? Even to the point where he survived the downgrade and lived on as a Maximal.

Though IDW do plonk him back on Cybertron in time for Megatron's BM cull. :/

And, for the record, Flywheels faked his death in Time Wars.

[EDIT] READ THE THREAD BREND. How did he end up a Pretender? I recall not...

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:53 am

Grimlock was killed during Underbase Saga when Starscream used him as a shield and threw him into Decepticons Pretenders' fire. Of course, earlier he was destroyed during the Ark crash, deactivated in Savage Land and later during Dinobot Hunt. Whether or not those count as deaths, I leave to you.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:04 am

Right. Just Flywheels then innit?

Hubcap?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:04 pm

Brendocon wrote:Hubcap?

Did Hubcap ever appear in any media?

Can't recall the demise of Tailgate nor of Outback.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:11 pm

Rebis wrote:
Brendocon wrote:Hubcap?
Did Hubcap ever appear in any media?

Hell yeah bitch.

Hubcap's awesome.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Hubcap#Fiction

Dog-powered Flying Minibot-combination DRILL ATTACK. All over your face.

Er but yeah. He was the only toy from the first three years (Powerdashers and Minispies aside) to appear in neither the Sunbow toon nor the Marvel comic.

NEVER DIED.

Can't recall the demise of Tailgate nor of Outback.

Didn't Tailgate get stepped on by Trypticon in Five Faces of Darkness? Or was that Swerve?

IDW Outback got iced off-page prior to Spotlight Kup.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:58 pm

did trailbreaker actually die in T:2006? i thought he just got shot with an acid blast and was being tended too whilst the others set Scourge up to get his face rocked by Megatron.

The Last Autobot · Post by **The Last Autobot** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:57 pm

Brendocon wrote:
Didn't Tailgate get stepped on by Trypticon in Five Faces of Darkness? Or was that Swerve?

It was Swerve

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:05 pm

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:
bumblemusprime wrote:
snarl wrote:Did Ultra Magnus ever die?
There was that little "Sweeps! Terminate him!" moment.
always wondered about that. He gets blown to pieces and put back together like a giant Humpty Dumpty with a 'yes we can" attitude, and yet prime takes one to the chest and is toast.

Hell Prowl got aced with a regular blast.

Junkions can fix anything. You should see what they did for my erectile dysfunction.

Too much information?

stranger · Post by **stranger** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:03 pm

The only one I can think of is Kup. He didn't kick the bucket in the Marvel run if I recall correctly, and in the cartoon he buggered off to find a new planet with Rodimus and Blurr.

Infact - I can't remember seeing him killed in any media thus far...

Mr_Tigg · Post by **Mr_Tigg** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:19 pm

Is it me or do transformers receive some of the most brutal deaths going in a "toyline aimed at kids"?

Imagine the ol'movie with live action actors? It would've been more violent then the average horror movie!

Even in the live action movie, Jazz got ripped in two.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:30 pm

cyclonus losing his head to megs is pretty standout in time wars.

forgive my memory, but is in smokescreen going down in a shutlle and taking a few cons with him in legacy of unicron?

damm the old stuff just had more grit to it...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:26 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:cyclonus losing his head to megs is pretty standout in time wars.

It was slightly pre-Time Wars, when Megs was still Shockwave's pawn. Or do you mean Topspin's decapitation?

forgive my memory, but is in smokescreen going down in a shutlle and taking a few cons with him in legacy of unicron?

That was Inferno. Smokescreen, in a titular moment, was sent through the windscreen of that shuttle by a dying Inferno shortly prior to that.

stranger wrote:The only one I can think of is Kup. He didn't kick the bucket in the Marvel run if I recall correctly, and in the cartoon he buggered off to find a new planet with Rodimus and Blurr.

Infact - I can't remember seeing him killed in any media thus far...

Executed by Cyclonus & Scourge in Rhythms of Darkness.

Also, in the as-yet unpublished AHM: Coda, Kup will be shown to eventually die from lung cancer, courtesy of McCarthy's Cigars. Mmmm. Smell that woodbine!

IronHide · Post by **IronHide** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:30 am

Gonna throw my vote in for Superion getting hit by the f**king NUKE in the DW storyline.

stranger · Post by **stranger** » Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:45 am

Rebis wrote:
Executed by Cyclonus & Scourge in Rhythms of Darkness.

Arse - forgot about that.

Metroplex?