Much Ado About Megatron #5 Review (SPOILERS)

Manchester Devil · Post by **Manchester Devil** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:19 pm

For anybody here hoping Drift would be the "traitor" better look away from the links below:

http://ryalltime.blogspot.com/2008/12/blog-post.html
http://ryalltime.blogspot.com/2008/12/d ... galoo.html

Post by **Best First** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:05 am

i was kind of hoping he just didn't exist.

On that cover i am assuming he is leaning against a bar, and just off camera is the girl he is threatening to stick those fingers up.

The problem with Drift is they have tried too hard to build up excitement about him - i know part of the job is to publicise the comics but its such sledge hammer OMG This will p0wn your style guff that its just off putting.

Plus the thing with TFs is the cast is so massive, and there are so many intersting techspecs out there that really pushing a new guy (esp to the extent of a spotlight) just doesn'tg resonate. If you need a badass racer with a sword...

http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Electro

for example.

I mean he has a lightsabre so he is already cooler than Drift and his whacky Shiar Mkran sword.

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:36 pm

Yep, it was summed up pretty well on this blog as well:

Detour wrote:Solaris: Well I think you just love Drift because Chris Ryall paid you to say it.

See? I can make wild crazy assumptions too!

Honestly, why should I be pissed my original character would never make it to canon? I don't WANT him to make it to canon. He's awful, I just do him for my own amusement and no one else's. If I manage to get a job as a Transformers writer I intend to write about all those guys that never got a chance in the spotlight. Landmine, Flattop, Bugly, Twin Twist, Scoop, Banzai-Tron, Skram, Kick-Off... The Transformers world is so packed with great characters to explore, why would I want to shove in some sub-par self-insertion piece of crap beyond MAYBE a crowd shot cameo to indulge myself a little bit?

What I do hate is some crappy wapanese ricer car samurai guy. That's about as unoriginal as it gets with fancharacters, and it just makes him sound like every thirteen-year old's "totally badass" creation who kicks all the ass in the world. Maybe if Drift's look and character were a little more inspired than jamming a bunch of Anime stereotypes together with the parroting of Bruce Lee quotes ("Be like water", as Shane so put it in an interview), and he wasn't hyped as their Wolverine, I'd be a little more receptive to it.

Furman's Grindcore, on the other hand, sounded awesome. Why can't we get more on him?

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:27 pm

Personally, not very impressed with amount of hype. I mean, I don't see he's been overhyped.

Maybe I just haven't looked in the right places, or just didn't care to, but I really don't know much about Drift except how he looks.

Post by **Best First** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:23 pm

The moment you see "there is this new guy and he is awesome i know you will love him" its overhyping.

There's just no subtlty to any of it.

There's also an evident lack of understanding - a new character in a continuity where we have yet to see 90% of the TF cast is not going to be a big hook IMO - i'm not saying don't have 'made up' guys (Gridcore served a purpose) if it s in the interests of the story (you can see why the original Straxus was invented for example) but expecting this to be the reason people read - ooh! new guy - especially at this stage in the IDW continuities maturity - seems an odd one to me.. Giving Starsabre a western debut or something would be far more interesting.

Looking back at the good old days of weekly UK bliss - the Wreckers just - bang - out of nowhere, seriously, a total suprise and they were cool because they were, not because we were told in advance.

Different times i know but this just seems so... crass.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:06 pm

Best First wrote:The moment you see "there is this new guy and he is awesome i know you will love him" its overhyping.

There's just no subtlty to any of it.

There's also an evident lack of understanding - a new character in a continuity where we have yet to see 90% of the TF cast is not going to be a big hook IMO - i'm not saying don't have 'made up' guys (Gridcore served a purpose) if it s in the interests of the story (you can see why the original Straxus was invented for example) but expecting this to be the reason people read - ooh! new guy - especially at this stage in the IDW continuities maturity - seems an odd one to me.. Giving Starsabre a western debut or something would be far more interesting.

Looking back at the good old days of weekly UK bliss - the Wreckers just - bang - out of nowhere, seriously, a total suprise and they were cool because they were, not because we were told in advance.

Different times i know but this just seems so... crass.

I see what you're saying, but how is Grindcore not in the same category? There are a hundred other characters besides Grindcore that already exist by the same logic above, yet I remember Simon pimping his new character as the new big heavy in the solicits.

Worse, Grindcore doesn't even get a toy from Hasbro. Drift does.

That that logic, Drift would actually be more acceptable than Grindcore.

For me personally, the more introductions of new ancillary characters, the more intrigued I am. It's a shame Grindcore became just another Con due to 'the crunch'.

I have fond memories of being literally scared of Straxus, as he came out of nowhere like a mad bat out of hell. The Transformers have certainly been better off for him, as well as Scrounge, Impactor, and Flame.

For me, jury still out on Drift.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:01 pm

Can somebody just burn the IDW forum? Seriously.

That's all I have to say.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:17 am

Yaya wrote:
Worse, Grindcore doesn't even get a toy from Hasbro. Drift does.

That that logic, Drift would actually be more acceptable than Grindcore.

But see, that's the point. Drift DOES have a toy, and whether or not you buy toys and maybe will buy a comic or two now or if you buy comics and maybe will buy a toy or two now, that's more $$$ in Hasbro's pockets. Kind of like the Marvel/Star Wars Transformer toys - cross over markets, increase sales.

So then where Impactor or Straxus were created for story reasons, this, this "DRIFT" is the untimely echo of Budiansky era product placement. The days where they were required to stick in the new Autobot cars, Pretenders, Micromasters, etc. Obviously not as severe, and only time will tell if its an anomaly or a harbinger, but an interesting comparison, nonetheless.

Post by **Best First** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:38 am

sprunkner wrote:Can somebody just burn the IDW forum? Seriously.

That's all I have to say.

referring to that locked thread?

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:07 pm

Shanti418 wrote: So then where Impactor or Straxus were created for story reasons, this, this "DRIFT" is the untimely echo of Budiansky era product placement. The days where they were required to stick in the new Autobot cars, Pretenders, Micromasters, etc. Obviously not as severe, and only time will tell if its an anomaly or a harbinger, but an interesting comparison, nonetheless.

But I prefer that, don't you?

I mean, it would kickass to have a Straxus, Scrounge, or Impactor toy.

Not sure though why fans are excited about a Japanese race car. Quite boring, if you ask me. Maybe if he has many point of articulation, he might be cool to own.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:09 pm

Best First wrote:
sprunkner wrote:Can somebody just burn the IDW forum? Seriously.

That's all I have to say.
referring to that locked thread?

It's funny. That forum has to be the most ****** up one I've ever posted on.

Now, it's like you're not sure what can be said.

"You can be critical, but be nice...which means give praise, but if you can't, don't post...cause that's not nice...so just give critical praise.....

Post by **Best First** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:27 pm

And threads trying to clarify what can be said will be locked!

Post by **snarl** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:47 pm

Why doesn't somebody tell Jack Cade to stop pushing the point, tell them all to get ****** and come and post on here instead?

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:31 pm

snarl wrote:Why doesn't somebody tell Jack Cade to stop pushing the point, tell them all to get ****** and come and post on here instead?

Jack Cade was born for this board.

Post by **Best First** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:49 pm

Ha Ha - the other day - one of the rassclatts that regularly just tries to rile everyone said to him "This isn't a democracy" and JC responded to say "Funny, someone else once said that when banning me from a place and that place is pretty quiet now" (or similar) and i though "****! was that me?"

Hmm...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:04 pm

Nope. Not you.

Not to him here, anyway.

Not unless he forgot his login details, registered as someone else and had a personality transplant twice, once before, once after.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:20 pm

Best First wrote:Ha Ha - the other day - one of the rassclatts that regularly just tries to rile everyone said to him "This isn't a democracy" and JC responded to say "Funny, someone else once said that when banning me from a place and that place is pretty quiet now" (or similar) and i though "****! was that me?"

Hmm...

It does sound like you.

Facts:

- Grindcore's bobbins. But at least he's bobbins that was made up to fill out a brand new faction without wasting an existing character who could have been better used elswhere.

- Drift is bobbins. And he's bobbins that's using up space that could have been better used with one of the characters just alluded to,

- Of the comics I still buy in singles, only one isn't by IDW.

- Of the comics I buy from IDW, all of them are mediocre dishwater bilge at best.

- Of the mediocre dishwater bilge, none of it is good or offensive enough for me to have any desire to communicate directly with the creators.

- Which is good, because the forum for doing so is a shitmunching [composite word including 'f*ck'] circlejerk of epically self righteous proportions.

- So I avoid the IDW boards and keep my sanity.

- And you should too.

I am Truthbastard Jesus. And this is my gospel.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:56 pm

Jack's one of ours.

Jack Cade · Post by **Jack Cade** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:12 pm

snarl wrote:Why doesn't somebody tell Jack Cade to stop pushing the point, tell them all to get ****** and come and post on here instead?

Yaya wrote:Jack Cade was born for this board.

Best First wrote:... and JC responded to say ...

That's close enough to saying my name three times so voila, here I am.

Ha Ha - the other day - one of the rassclatts that regularly just tries to rile everyone said to him "This isn't a democracy" and JC responded to say "Funny, someone else once said that when banning me from a place and that place is pretty quiet now" (or similar) and i though "****! was that me?"

It's actually a forum called Poets On Fire. There's a great thread here where the person who told me 'this is not a democracy - you must respect me' behaves so childishly that three people publicly ask to have their accounts deleted. Take note also of the point where she switches to using a different account in order to avoid answering any more questions.

However, I think it's worth sticking around on the IDW board in case an opportunity comes up to instigate widespread revolt, and perhaps to frustrate their efforts to turn it into a padded playroom.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:33 pm

Jack Cade wrote: That's close enough to saying my name three times so voila, here I am.

Dude, I am so grateful to you for laying into that pompous ass, Commander Shockwav.

You think he'd learn his lesson.

What do you think, are you going to hand him his ass on a silver plate again?

Post by **Best First** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:04 pm

Yaya wrote:
Jack Cade wrote: That's close enough to saying my name three times so voila, here I am.
Dude, I am so grateful to you for laying into that pompous ass, Commander Shockwav.

You think he'd learn his lesson.

What do you think, are you going to hand him his ass on a silver plate again?

Too late - Sprunk blew your feeble cover in the locked keep it civil and don't ask what that means thread.

It's over for you man. Over.

If they banned Dogshite and Skwedge (and Commander_Shockave, nooch) the place would be tolerable i think.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:22 pm

Best First wrote:
Yaya wrote:
Jack Cade wrote: That's close enough to saying my name three times so voila, here I am.
Dude, I am so grateful to you for laying into that pompous ass, Commander Shockwav.

You think he'd learn his lesson.

What do you think, are you going to hand him his ass on a silver plate again?
Too late - Sprunk blew your feeble cover in the locked keep it civil and don't ask what that means thread.

It's over for you man. Over.

Duuuuuude. I coulda had so much fun with that.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:08 am

wait--they ****** LOCKED that?

aww hell no.

Nice to see you over here where the bitchin is hardcore, JC.

PS - Yaya, I dare you to guess my alt-ID on the IDW boards now.

-very bad at keeping secrets

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:21 pm

sprunkner wrote: PS - Yaya, I dare you to guess my alt-ID on the IDW boards now.

-very bad at keeping secrets

You were banned???

I feel like we're brothers now, sharing a deep bond that none can understand.

BF once called me "Jaja". I immediately regretted taking the name Yaya upon hearing it.

Let me mosey on over to the IDW boards and figure it out.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:02 pm

I wasn't banned, just tired of banning threats. Sort of like "You can't fire me--I quit!"

We are brothers. Though I should have gone with the YaShwav rivalry thing. "Look, just because you're both Muslim optometrist transfans in [location] doesn't mean you have to compete with each other!"

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:23 pm

sprunkner wrote:I wasn't banned, just tired of banning threats. Sort of like "You can't fire me--I quit!"

We are brothers. Though I should have gone with the YaShwav rivalry thing. "Look, just because you're both Muslim optometrist transfans in [location] doesn't mean you have to compete with each other!"

Ophthalmologist, not optometrist.

Ophthalmologist are M.D.'s and do eye surgery. Me, I'm primarily a cataract surgeon. Optometrist just prescribe glasses. Common misconception.

Muslim. Ophthalmologist. Transfans member. Three descriptive words you just don't expect to see on a TF website, are they?

stranger · Post by **stranger** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:59 am

Best First wrote:
If they banned Dogshite and Skwedge (and Commander_Shockave, nooch) the place would be tolerable i think.

ooh I dunno - Just ban the snotty mods and let the masses take care of the **** munchers. Seriously - half the problems on that board are mod created IMO...

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:17 pm

Yaya wrote: Muslim. Ophthalmologist. Transfans member. Three descriptive words you just don't expect to see on a TF website, are they?

Yeah, it's weird how many different people get together here due to our uniting factor (IE, Transformers) ...

Me, I'm a zoologist but am currently working in the Pharmacological industry. And a fellow Hungarian TF fan of mine works in the Ministry for Home Affairs...

From what I hear from you, I'm glad I never registered on the IDW boards. Sometimes the urge to answer to some posts was strong, but I managed to resist... I guess things are getting a little too Don Murphy-ish there lately...

Jack Cade · Post by **Jack Cade** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:14 pm

Nice try, Yaya, but you routinely post identical reviews on both forums.

Anyway, I don't remember arguing with you over anything apart from AHM, and that's mostly been civil, right?

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:43 pm

Jack Cade wrote:Nice try, Yaya, but you routinely post identical reviews on both forums.

Anyway, I don't remember arguing with you over anything apart from AHM, and that's mostly been civil, right?

Actually Jack, I think I have agreed with you on most things.

Me, I'm a zoologist but am currently working in the Pharmacological industry

Cool. I think I would have enjoyed being a zoologist had I not pursued medicine.