Devestation Predictions

Post by **Best First** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:41 am

Right oh ye merry band of Transfans - who do we think is going to get well and truly ****ed up in this series?

Or who would you like to see get messed up?

I am a bit worried Six-shot is going to kill Mouse Poo - i think this would probably be a fairer refelction of how things pan out between these two, but i love Ratchet to tiny little bits (chinning Starscream whilst full of righteous indignation remains for me one of the best things ever) so i'm not entirely enamoured with the prospect.

I guess my ideal scenario is that Ratchet gets taken to within an inch of his life and then Prime turns up at the last minute and goes fully Wu-Tang on Sixshot.

Hoping Hardhead doesn't end up as cannon fodder either.

Thoughts ma leetle internet chums?

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:27 pm

Can't really see Ratchet being killed off, to be honest. He's been the entry-point Autobot for the reader, so it wouldn't make huge amounts of sense for him to be killed off.

It would however make huge amounts of sense for him to be seriously threatened with being killed off, for the exact same reason. He's the focus of most of our empathy. Sure, it's cheap, but it makes sense from a narrative perspective.

So yeah, Ratchet to get well and truly ****** up, then Prime steps in.

Then again, Furmo could be thinking we'd expect that, so kill him anyway just for "OH NOES HE ACTUALLY GONED DUN IT!!11" value. This is what happens to people who disobey authoriteh.

One character's not coming out alive, we know this much. I'd say Hot Rod and Nightbeat's stories indicate they're safe. Ironhide's an obvious candidate. Hardhead and Wheeljack the others.

Or maybe it'll be a Decepticon who bites the big one.

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:21 pm

I think Hound's crew are going to make up the majority of the killings when they show up. There are a few familiar faces there. Sideswipe aside as I think Furman has plans for him.

Possibly Sixshot in some kind of heroic sacrifice/epic battle against the Reavers.

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:44 pm

I'm foreseeing that the "big life-and-death deciding" question will be that Prime defeats Sixshot and will have to decide about killing him as he's too powerful to be imprisoned... dunno... Because as of now we have seen that IDW Prime is somewhat reluctant to take the life of an enemy, even Thunderwing's... With the execption of Megs, whom he promptly shot in the head.

I doubt Ratchet will die. Neither Sunstreaker, as I bet Furman has plans for him and Sideswipe, plus Hunter. Hardhead, yeah likely, but as in an Agatha Christie novel, it'd be the too obvious choice. Then again... in Christie novels sometimes the guy who have sound-proof alibies turn out to be the murderers.

Another thought of mine - considering the triple-changers wake up Starscream because Megs is losing his marbles, I have a feeling that instead of doing another doublecross or starting his own faction, Screamer will instead talk sense into Megatron, making him realize how Ore-13 is affecting his personality and making him disregard caution and logic. In turn, also redeeming himself and blaming his betrayal of Megs on Ore-13. It'd be what Simon tried to show with Screamer in Energon, when in a flashback showed us how Starscream provides some counseling for Megs about Scorponok.

I'm curious what the Reapers will do. Will they attack the Cons because they want to turn Earth into another Mumu Obscura (destroying all resources) or because they want the Cons to give them Sixshot? Or killing Megatron to further test Sixshot's loyalties? And Simon said there aren't just 6 reapers but more, so this'll most likely turn out to be interesting... also I doubt after their attack the Cons can still maintain the Oregon Bunker as humans will most likely notice huge aliens attacking there.

Post by **Best First** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:10 pm

I don't think Prime has shown a reluctance to kill at all - TW didn't need killing as he was inert, but he was happy to off Megs ("finish him") and he was with the Wreckers when they tore through Bludgeon's forces.

Plus lets not forget his 'meet my foot bitch' approach to humans who have pissed him off and his comments about not getting too close to the humans.

If anything i think this is the most pragmatic incarnation of Prime we have seen thus far.

But we still get to see the heart of him like his cradeling of Iguanus and his instinct to protect the humans Megs was threating to off in Brasnya (sp?).

Basically i think this Prime is fooking cool.

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:33 pm

Best First wrote:Basically i think this Prime is fooking cool.

Absolutely, probably one the best incarnations yet.

Is Prowl a potential?

Post by **Best First** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:35 pm

hmm, maybe - be a real impact kill that one.

but also feels like there is further for him to go for a character - then again i suppose that is true of pretty much everyone.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:55 pm

Bumblebee?

Or maybe Jazz, as per the movie. Kill the token black robot.

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:06 pm

sprunkner wrote:Bumblebee?

Or maybe Jazz, as per the movie. Kill the token black robot.

Now that'd be really out of the blue...

Btw -how about Ramjet? He arrives as reinforcements and is promptly killed off. When is his Spotlight out, anyway? That story should take place during Devastation, no?

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:59 pm

Brendocon wrote: Then again, Furmo could be thinking we'd expect that, so kill him anyway just for "OH NOES HE ACTUALLY GONED DUN IT!!11" value. This is what happens to people who disobey authoriteh.

That would be simply incredible.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Ratchet, probably my favorite Autobot after Prime.

But to see Sixshot absolutely annihilate Ratchet, well, that would really open the story up for me.

When I say annihilate, I don't mean one panel of BOOM. But a beating over several pages. That's the kind of moment that would stick with fans forever, kind of like the moment when Shockwave arrived and blasted all the Autobots to bits.

Wonder if Hasbro would allow it.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:05 am

Yaya wrote:When I say annihilate, I don't mean one panel of BOOM. But a beating over several pages. That's the kind of moment that would stick with fans forever, kind of like the moment when Shockwave arrived and blasted all the Autobots to bits.

Which, if we go by your graphic description alone, would most likely have been one panel of BOOM, rather than a beating over several pages.

Hmm.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:08 am

Hound wrote:Is Prowl a potential?

Nah. All the potentials are slayers now.

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:09 pm

Best First wrote: Plus lets not forget his 'meet my foot bitch' approach to humans who have pissed him off and his comments about not getting too close to the humans.

About that truck scene - I'm pretty sure at the time Prime thought the Machination's humans were facsimiles, so he wouldn't have felt remorse about killing those...

And let's not forget his actions in his own spotlight. Despite Omega urging him to, he let the monsters live. Anyway - I'm now pretty sure Sixshot will be the guy biting the dust in this series, and probably at Prime's hands.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:14 pm

BB Shockwave wrote:Despite Omega urging him to, he let the monsters live.

Because he had no reason to kill them. They were lashing out at Omega for what he did to them. Prime allowed them the benefit of the doubt. It's not their fault they are the way they are.

Ergo, pragmatic.

Post by **Best First** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:41 pm

there is nothing to indicate either way whether Prime thought that was a facsimilie or not.

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:44 pm

I guess you're right with that... Still I agree with BF, this is one of the coolest Primes Simon has ever written. He didn't had any doubt-ridden monologue (something G1/G2 Marvel Prime did in abundance) yet, apart from a little in OP Spotlight.

In any case, we'll most likely see Prime in a life-or-death situation about Sixshot, seeing as he's the only one I can see capable of dealing with him.

A thought though... Since all the Autobots are in the Ark, and Megs hates Prime so much now he broke protocol in sending Sixshot in, why didn't Megs made sure and sent all the other Cons too, himself included to help Sixshot out? I mean I thought he'd have wanted to settle that score with Prime personally.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:41 pm

Best First wrote:there is nothing to indicate either way whether Prime thought that was a facsimilie or not.

But if it was, it takes all the enjoyment out of the story.

And I felt some long doubt-ridden monologue-ness during Stormbringer.

Post by **Best First** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:21 am

yeah, there is def still doubt, but it seems, so far, more like this Prime knows how to slap that to one side when some balls need busting.

"You sir, are busting my balls"

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:56 pm

Here's a prediction for yooozzz...

I reckon Prime's gonna let Earth burn. Or at least decide that he's willing to.

There's been talk of a "big decision" that he's gonna make. We know the Reapers are gonna arrive. And the current solicitation for #6 is all "where are the Autobots? the answer will shock you" and stuff.

So yeah. Probably get all angsty about Cybertron and decide not to, but I think he's gonna be all "it's not worth it!" and ****.

Post by **Best First** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:21 pm

hmm, not sure how i would feel about that.

altho, as siad previously - pragmatic.

Reckon Scorpy might take issue with it given his actions on Neb.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:31 pm

Strange as it sounds, I think Sixshot will the one who saves the Earth. I can see Prime and co pulling out, the Reapers and the 'Cons fighting over what's left, and big bad himself stepping up and smacking all their heads together. Simon hints that he has a part to play in Dev#6, and I reckon he's the unlikely saviour of the human race.

Which would be awesome.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:34 pm

Sounds workable.

I also reckon Wheeljack's going to be the Autobot who dies in Devastation.

Everybody's all "oh, Ratchet - there's no mention of him in the future solicitations." Yeah, but all the Headmastery stuff mentions Hot Rod... with no word on the other 'bot who's with him. *gasp*

Post by **Best First** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:52 pm

hmm, but i was reckoning that that was dueto the fcat Hot R makes a stand while WJ buggers off to save Iron Hide.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:54 pm

I had Wheeljack pegged as a goner too, but the fact that he's not on the Ark threw me a bit. What you say makes sense though.

Can I point out that this topic is the first time I've actually understood the "Mouse-poo" reference?

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:08 pm

Not getting running jokes is now banned.

And I'd like to point out that the token black guy is, in this series, Runabout.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:11 pm

He is so dead.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:18 pm

Two words:

Goldbug.

Oh, sorry. This is the deadies thread, isn't it. A prediction for the next arc, perhaps...

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:50 pm

Here's my prediction.

The head of the Machination won't be Scorponok.

It will be ............Soundwave!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:39 pm

That's what I thought from the moment I saw Ravage and Laserbeak in Escalation.

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:09 pm

Naah. It'd be a typical Brad-Micky "twist from nowhere" - it's not how Simon works. Every fact points to Scorpy being behind the big 'M'. Although, we will see Soundwave - Simon himself said it - during Devastation, and I predict that maybe Ravage will lead the Skywatch guys to him. And then SW promptly frees Ravage from their mind control...