TF Movie 2. leaked script - SPOILERS!!
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http://rapidshare.com/files/61046737/TF2_100207.pdf
According to Nelson (Bay's website admin) , it is legit, but will NOT be used. Which is similar to what they said about the first movie's script (after denying it as real for a while) so we might end up with this as the main plot.
http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.ph ... t&p=759450
Must say... I'm not really liking this either. Better then the first one's story, but while that one was a mostly human-centered comedy with brief TF action, this one is a 2 hour long robot slugfest with very minimal character interaction (which is what a TF movie should be about, anyway). They are pretty much copying the SW triology with this, btw, as in the second part the 'bad guys' win.
There are huge masses of nameless TF soldiers which would be pretty expensive to produce in CGI, unless they'll use similar-body shaped drones like the TF Game did.
New characters include Hot Rod, who is now a Wolverine - like 'rogue warrior' and pretty much is introduced to replace Prime by part 3. as far as I can see...
Soundwave is a Megatron loyalist who wants to revive him, and also as a distributor of sound energy is considered a healer of sorts, more like a priest or even a small god (HUH?! ), he transforms into some sort of prototype sonic cannon.
Ultra Magnus... is just there, carrying cars, at least he has his old alt. mode.
Devastator appears ona roadway and NOT in the middle of Vegas, wasted opportunity... is taken out fast anyway.
Starscream is crowned king (whoa the originality of it! ), wants to take over Earth as some sort of Sphere (first a Cube, now a Sphere...) is left under Vegas that stored the Cube's energy and supplied all the USA with power. Geez start making energon you idiot.
Prime is indebted to Spi... er Sam to protect Mikaela so he sends his soliders into battle saying "Protect her with your life!" Great leadership, Prime... He has the Matrix btw. which is retconned to give sentience to TFs while the Allspark gives life only, and of course Megs wants to put it into hsi own chest (and succeeds too, in a fashion very similar to G2's events).
None of the first movie's other Autobots are mentioned by name... except BB, who doesn't do much but play Sam's car. From the Cons,Scorponok returns though.
The Nemesis is introduced, and in an intersting turn it sinks an aircraft carrier and takes its shape. (btw off topic, what do they call those ships that's shorter to write then aircraft carrier? Flattops? Motherships?)
Sam, Mikaela and agent Simmons return. New humans include an old geezer from S7 who retired and oversees Vegas, and Sam's stereotypical Asian roommate. Thankfully humans feature less then in the first movie and there are no painfully "humorous" scenes like BB pissing on the agents, but then again it's a very early script.
All in all, if this indeed gets made into a movie, it'll be an interesting action flick with lots of explosions and we might see some classics characters reinvented Bayformer style getting killed off as hi-then-die nameless Bots and Cons, that's all we can expect. Though, given Bay's shaky camera, we probably won't even be able to make out who is who. Not very good story, but a bit better then the first one, although also a bit bland.
Btw - Bay even makes a cameo as a "rich and famous action movie director" whose Ferrari Hot Rod scans and copies....
According to Nelson (Bay's website admin) , it is legit, but will NOT be used. Which is similar to what they said about the first movie's script (after denying it as real for a while) so we might end up with this as the main plot.
http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.ph ... t&p=759450
Must say... I'm not really liking this either. Better then the first one's story, but while that one was a mostly human-centered comedy with brief TF action, this one is a 2 hour long robot slugfest with very minimal character interaction (which is what a TF movie should be about, anyway). They are pretty much copying the SW triology with this, btw, as in the second part the 'bad guys' win.
There are huge masses of nameless TF soldiers which would be pretty expensive to produce in CGI, unless they'll use similar-body shaped drones like the TF Game did.
New characters include Hot Rod, who is now a Wolverine - like 'rogue warrior' and pretty much is introduced to replace Prime by part 3. as far as I can see...
Soundwave is a Megatron loyalist who wants to revive him, and also as a distributor of sound energy is considered a healer of sorts, more like a priest or even a small god (HUH?! ), he transforms into some sort of prototype sonic cannon.
Ultra Magnus... is just there, carrying cars, at least he has his old alt. mode.
Devastator appears ona roadway and NOT in the middle of Vegas, wasted opportunity... is taken out fast anyway.
Starscream is crowned king (whoa the originality of it! ), wants to take over Earth as some sort of Sphere (first a Cube, now a Sphere...) is left under Vegas that stored the Cube's energy and supplied all the USA with power. Geez start making energon you idiot.
Prime is indebted to Spi... er Sam to protect Mikaela so he sends his soliders into battle saying "Protect her with your life!" Great leadership, Prime... He has the Matrix btw. which is retconned to give sentience to TFs while the Allspark gives life only, and of course Megs wants to put it into hsi own chest (and succeeds too, in a fashion very similar to G2's events).
None of the first movie's other Autobots are mentioned by name... except BB, who doesn't do much but play Sam's car. From the Cons,Scorponok returns though.
The Nemesis is introduced, and in an intersting turn it sinks an aircraft carrier and takes its shape. (btw off topic, what do they call those ships that's shorter to write then aircraft carrier? Flattops? Motherships?)
Sam, Mikaela and agent Simmons return. New humans include an old geezer from S7 who retired and oversees Vegas, and Sam's stereotypical Asian roommate. Thankfully humans feature less then in the first movie and there are no painfully "humorous" scenes like BB pissing on the agents, but then again it's a very early script.
All in all, if this indeed gets made into a movie, it'll be an interesting action flick with lots of explosions and we might see some classics characters reinvented Bayformer style getting killed off as hi-then-die nameless Bots and Cons, that's all we can expect. Though, given Bay's shaky camera, we probably won't even be able to make out who is who. Not very good story, but a bit better then the first one, although also a bit bland.
Btw - Bay even makes a cameo as a "rich and famous action movie director" whose Ferrari Hot Rod scans and copies....
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Meh. Very recycled, no real insights into any of the characters. More of the same really, so I'm guessing my reaction will be the same- "I don't hate it, but I don't like it either".
And yar, I'm sure large portions of this will turn up in the final movie regardless. Especially since they want the script done ASAP before the writer's guild strikes I don't think they'll be throwing away every single idea here.
And yar, I'm sure large portions of this will turn up in the final movie regardless. Especially since they want the script done ASAP before the writer's guild strikes I don't think they'll be throwing away every single idea here.
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That all sounded like crap. Except for the part about Soundwave as a medicine man.
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All it needs is Arcee as Mikaela's bike. We've seen her abs, this'll show off more of her.
Mikaela, nor Arcee...
Mikaela, nor Arcee...
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Yeah, exactly!sprunkner wrote:DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS!
I mean... did Arcee ever had a personality? Other then being the stereotype 'girl transformer'? Closest thing to character development I can think of was in Space Pirates and that wasn't much either...
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ick... they really need to come up with something better than that...
also I'd really prefer to not have to stomach any of the post movie autobots except hot rod and magnus. maybe a cameo of springer. just no more. bring real characters... blaster, prowl, sunstreaker, sideswipe... those four all should get in before any other transformers.
granted they probably want more unique transformers to bring in so that just leaves blaster in that lot. i wonder how they would make a bay-blaster sound..? hah interesting.
also soundwave should've been there in the first place anyway. shockwave might have potential. that plot is ok depending on where they go with it but it would need some excellent subplots because it isnt much alone.
truly just bland.
also I'd really prefer to not have to stomach any of the post movie autobots except hot rod and magnus. maybe a cameo of springer. just no more. bring real characters... blaster, prowl, sunstreaker, sideswipe... those four all should get in before any other transformers.
granted they probably want more unique transformers to bring in so that just leaves blaster in that lot. i wonder how they would make a bay-blaster sound..? hah interesting.
also soundwave should've been there in the first place anyway. shockwave might have potential. that plot is ok depending on where they go with it but it would need some excellent subplots because it isnt much alone.
truly just bland.
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It's been confirmed that this script is "official", but will not be used. Considering that 10 days ago it was said that the script would be ready in 30 days, this draft can't be far off from the final product.anna wrote:you all realize these might not be true don't you?(for exsample i heard the chameleon was supposed to be in spierman 3 but of course now we know he wasn't) so don't judge the sequel just yet
Also, remember how they said the leaked script for the first movie would be "so much different" from the final script?
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Anna's right though, it would be sort of presumptuous to think that something that has come out only months after the first movie was shown would be any kind of finished product.
You realize now however Anna that if the movie is like this you owe us all a coke. ..or beer. Whichever we prefer hee hee
You realize now however Anna that if the movie is like this you owe us all a coke. ..or beer. Whichever we prefer hee hee
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Or both! Two hotties! What I really want to say is this-If Jazz isn't revived I will kill everybody involved with the making of this film. I was so disappointed when he died in the (2007)movie. Of course they killed off the black one ...I wanted better than that sh*t.Aaron Hong wrote:All it needs is Arcee as Mikaela's bike. We've seen her abs, this'll show off more of her.
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Make him come back as a zombie, like in Target 2006... He would eat the brains of all the annoying human characters. Hmm, braaains...man-with-the-dogs wrote:Or both! Two hotties! What I really want to say is this-If Jazz isn't revived I will kill everybody involved with the making of this film. I was so disappointed when he died in the (2007)movie. Of course they killed off the black one ...I wanted better than that sh*t.Aaron Hong wrote:All it needs is Arcee as Mikaela's bike. We've seen her abs, this'll show off more of her.
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Huh. So apparently Bay hires and pays people to write fake movie scripts, to mislead the fanboys so he can later imitate Nelson and point at them saying "Ha-ha!"
In this case, Mr. Bay, please hire me. I can write you a fake script that'll make everyone rejoice that TFs are finally back to their roots while Orci and co. write you another generic action-flic."We're going to leak a lot of false information all over the place. I now know their game. They're going to get a lot of script treatments that they think are going to be the script. They will never see the script. We've got scripts and treatments written up that we're going to leak. No one's going to know. There's one out that's fake right now. There are going to be many others."
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Apparently Bay wants to **** with the fans more than he wants another box office success. This post pretty much sums it up:BB Shockwave wrote:Huh. So apparently Bay hires and pays people to write fake movie scripts, to mislead the fanboys so he can later imitate Nelson and point at them saying "Ha-ha!"
"We're going to leak a lot of false information all over the place. I now know their game. They're going to get a lot of script treatments that they think are going to be the script. They will never see the script. We've got scripts and treatments written up that we're going to leak. No one's going to know. There's one out that's fake right now. There are going to be many others."
The majority of the online fanbase who liked the movie "had"(forced themselves) to get used to all of the changes at first. Taking away that adjustment time, especially after a G1 based year or two(Animated and Classics 2.0), could doom the sequel's success.Nemesis Cyberplex of Seibertron wrote:So....instead of leting everybody warm up to all the crap they're going to throw at everybody & get over it, they're going to keep everybody clueless untill the movie actually comes out, see some drastic unnecessary changes to something they feel very passionately about, & have critics & words-of-mouth throw this movie into the same catagory as Highlander 2.
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That would be cool.BB Shockwave wrote:Make him come back as a zombie, like in Target 2006... He would eat the brains of all the annoying human characters. Hmm, braaains...man-with-the-dogs wrote:Or both! Two hotties! What I really want to say is this-If Jazz isn't revived I will kill everybody involved with the making of this film. I was so disappointed when he died in the (2007)movie. Of course they killed off the black one ...I wanted better than that sh*t.Aaron Hong wrote:All it needs is Arcee as Mikaela's bike. We've seen her abs, this'll show off more of her.
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[quote="Hot Shot Taking away that adjustment time, especially after a G1 based year or two(Animated and Classics 2.0), could doom the sequel's success.[/quote]
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
Don't be ridiculous - the majority of people who saw this film have little or nothing to do with the vocal online fandom.
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
Don't be ridiculous - the majority of people who saw this film have little or nothing to do with the vocal online fandom.