What would it take for DWG1 to be continued?

[Denyer]

Re: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthrea ... post801894

As most of you probably know, when a publisher picks up a license there's an upfront fee plus a contract to pay a percentage of cover price on what's published as a result. With DW this seems to have been in the hundreds of the thousands of dollars range.

Now, we know that a first volume of DWG1V3 has been solicited for reprint in December, so that's presumably not included in the DW bankruptcy slate.

But... to pick up DW continuity (assuming someone wanted to) would involve at minimum buying out the existing unpaid material from writers, artists, colourists etc. Just for the writing, that's about $50K to McDonough and Patyk.

Anyway, I got to thinking because of this statement:

perhaps one may want to wonder why the various parties in play would be alienating the fans (many of whom have been quite vocal about their interest in the work and its continuation) by denying them access

Anyone blame IDW for not picking up DWG1 as an option for continuation (a universe that includes such notables as Micromasters and V1) rather than establishing their own continuity under one writer?

Because I don't think IDW are "denying" us anything. The only people to blame for Dreamwave are Dreamwave.

[spiderfrommars]

Anyone blame IDW for not picking up DWG1 as an option for continuation (a universe that includes such notables as Micromasters and V1) rather than establishing their own continuity under one writer?

Nope. And certainly not when settling all those unpaid fees to get the rights would cost a fortune, and all for continuing a story that not everyone liked anyway.

[Predabot]

Aah, schmush! Who cares about G1?? I want me some Energon-goodness!

[Legion]

Why should IDW pay off DW's mistakes just to carry on another of their mistakes?

nah, let DWG1 rust where it is.

[Yaya]

Anyone blame IDW for not picking up DWG1 as an option for continuation (a universe that includes such notables as Micromasters and V1) rather than establishing their own continuity under one writer?

Because I don't think IDW are "denying" us anything. The only people to blame for Dreamwave are Dreamwave.

I don't blame IDW for anything DW was responsible for.

I do feel that talks should occur, at least, between the likes of Ryall and McDonough to see if there is any sort of platform (like Evolutions) by which fans could enjoy the conclusions to the G1 ongoing and Age of Wrath.

If no deal can be met, then nobody is really to blame here. I understand perfectly James' unwillingness to divulge where his story was going. At the same time, Chris Ryall has proven himself to be quite open to fans demands. I'm sure if it were feasible, he would have already had these titles in print in some form or fashion.

So really, I don't blame anyone.

[Legion]

So really, I don't blame anyone.

What? Not even Pat *puttup* Lee?

[Best First]

perhaps one may want to wonder why the various parties in play would be alienating the fans (many of whom have been quite vocal about their interest in the work and its continuation) by denying them access

i was actually feeling a degree of sympathy to the way some people were demanding they reveal the plot details until i got to that statement, which is possibly one of the most self important things i have ever read (and this is bearing in mind that i sometimes read my own posts).

lets not forget that 'many' people have also been quite vocal in thinking their work was sub par at best, let alone the fact that 'many' people in internet discussion board terms isn't actually that many people at all. I think the correct term is vocal minority.

I think its all pretty straight forward, they are entirely within their rights to withhold material they have not been compensated for and IDW are entirely within their rights to show no interest in it. I don't think m& P are doing themselves any favours with statements like the above.

i for one would much rather have what we have now and have suffered another reboot rather than have G1 lurch on under the cack handed management it was previoulsy under.

i'd prefer to see Energon concluded to be honest, given the quality of the current G1 title i have no real interest in revisiting a relatively short lived continuity that didn't add much if anything to the TF mythos other than the phrase 'shockwave did it'.

you could probably make as strong an arguement that IDW should have continued from the end of g2 or the end of season 3.

[spiderfrommars]

I heard somewhere that McPatyk were moaning that Furman had nicked their Beast Wars plot.

Sour grapes?

[Legion]

bad plums?

[Brendocon]

I heard somewhere that McPatyk were moaning that Furman had nicked their Beast Wars plot.

Sour grapes?

Well, considering it made a stab at featuring every BW character not in the show EVAR!, it could be possible...

[Predabot]

i'd prefer to see Energon concluded to be honest, given the quality of the current G1 title i have no real interest in revisiting a relatively short lived continuity that didn't add much if anything to the TF mythos other than the phrase 'shockwave did it'.

you could probably make as strong an arguement that IDW should have continued from the end of g2 or the end of season 3.

This idea I like. But how could we expect Energon to end? Perhaps a 4-part mini? Since they've actually got Furmy on the pay-roll, I don't think it's entirely unfeasible to condense it into a 4-part mini and tell the story.

Especially since it's been rumbled that the Cybertron-comic currently being published in the Collectors Club Magazine is being ported into IDW instead, and adding to that the fact that for Hasbro, Cybertron is a continuation of Energon, then it almost makes perfect sense! ^^

G2... well... why not publish an issue or two in Generations, then publish a couple fresh new issues with some G2-storyline in Evolutions? It'd be smashing!!


But alas..... what are the chances...?

[spiderfrommars]

But how could we expect Energon to end? Perhaps a 4-part mini? Since they've actually got Furmy on the pay-roll, I don't think it's entirely unfeasible to condense it into a 4-part mini and tell the story.

A five part Evolutions story to conclude it would be mint.

[BB Shockwave]

I wonder why Hasbro let the Energon comic fade into obscurity... on the DW board, much more people liked it then the G1 title. (no wonder...)

I think Simon said the end issue of Energon was about 4-5 issues away, no? After that, Cybertron would come. I think it's not by chance he hasn't given us any idea how Energon would have concluded, maybe IDW plans to re-release Energon in TPB form.

[spiderfrommars]

Even if he's busy he could hand over the plot outlines for someone else to write.

[BB Shockwave]

Wha... never!!!! Furman or nothing! Furmanites unite!!!

btw Impy, any chance you still got the 'No. 1. Furmanite fan' pic you made during the terror rule of Mad Brick?