Transformers Infiltration #6 (SPOILERS)

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:24 am

Read it just now and so, here we go.

I want to be believe that this story was worth telling.

I want to believe that after six-issues of story, that something worthwhile, something groundbreaking would have happened.

I want to believe that Simon's decades-long bag of storytelling tricks can never end.

But after turning that last page, I am left a doubter. I am left unimpressed.

It's not that the premise of this series was bad, it was its delivery that began to falter after the first two issues, as Blitzwing above aptly mentions. We are left with most plot lines open at series end, a strategy much akin to the Sunstorm Saga and its failure to achieve sufficient closure.

There were bright spots in this issue. The battle between Starscream and Megatron was done somewhat well. It harkened back to the early issues of Marvel, #6, when it was Megatron and Shockwave battling at the base of Mount St. Hiliary. But in the end, reminiscing aside, is it not still just a battle between Megatron and Starscream, a battle we have seen time and time again? I mean, had Starscream actually won...that would have been something to write home about. As it is, Starscream ending of with a big hole in his chest is something I can hardly say is surprising.

Autobots show up to the scene. And what do they do? Absolutely nothing. They are spectators, like us. One might think that even they were quite bored by another Starscream/Megatron clash.

I'm still unclear as to what seige mode is, still unclear as to what the Decepticons true intentions for being on Earth are. What was the deal with that skeleton in that abondoned Decepticon base early on anyway?

Artiwise, after seeing the sample pages on this website, I was highly impressed. But as the issue progressed, the artwork declined. The TF faces looked like they were melted wax in many panels, very indistinct. But you know what? Despite these artistic "flaws", I forgive E.J. everything for that kickass Prime pic at the end. I mean, I actually felt for the first time ever in reading a TF comic that I was actually there standing at the feet looking up at this towering robotic figure. Fantastic effect, E.J.! I don't know how after twenty years I have not experienced that effect until now, but that Prime pic for me goes down as one of the greatest TF pieces ever.

So overall, this issue, and this series, fell flat for me. I've said it before, I'll say it again, this was a three to four page story at most. Pacing was sloooooooooooooooooooowwww.

Issue #6: C-
Infiltration series overall: B-

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:47 am

Yeah, Furman must have been channelling Bendis for the last six months, because overall, this story went nowhere. Honestly, you could have told the whole thing in a 64 page 0 issue.

Manchester Devil · Post by **Manchester Devil** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:13 am

I can see where the pair of you are coming from with plot threads like the human corpse and the intentions of the Machination being left hanging by the end of Infiltration. But I do think we had a taste of Siege mode in places (Runabout, Runamuck and Thundercracker searching for the pocket computer and the destruction of "Stoker's" trailer park, the bus, Jimmy's garage and the Nerbaska bunker by Blitzwing and Skywarp) to cover their tracks.

As for the issue in hand, Megatron certainly doesn't mess about making the twins, Thundercracker and Astrotrain surrender without a fight and blasting a great big hole in Starscream. I wonder if Furman is going back to the pre-Spark idea of a Transformer's brain being the thing that keeps a Transformer alive. Megatron + Ore-13 = Oh bugger.

It appears that the Machination wants a Transformer to disect and something tells me that Escalation may have something to with that as well as Optimus Prime bringing in some more Autobots into the fray (The Wreckers?) in what could be greuilla warfare that gets out of control, considering the saga after that is called "Devastation", unless that gets changed during Escalation.

I've enjoyed the slowly unveilling mystery of the Decepticon's plan myself and imagining the possible implications of said plan, which is something I didn't have with Dreamwave's main Transformers comics.

Post by **snarl** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:07 am

Man, this whole 'plotlines open' bollocks... I swear some people are just impatient ******* *****.

Look back at the UK G1 - there were ******* plotlines going on for ******* yonks - where was the outcry there?

I think the problem now is that in the 80s the stories came out weekly with 11 pages, we always got our fix, breaking it down into smaller chunks kept the story ticking over. Now, the reader has a month's void to fill after they've read a story.

By the time Furman took charge, their was also a sufficient back story built and it could be to juggled around and made it exciting.

This all has to be built up again - The direction that has been plumped for is a slow burning conspiracy, it follows that the story will be slow as well.

Now, this maybe isn't the best way to keep all the readers happy.

Personally, I'm happy to keep buying as whilst not a massive amount of action events are taking place RIGHT NOW, I find the altered character and situation establishment interesting as well the indication that it will soon kick off enough for me personally to warrant buying the next issuse.

IDW have pissed me off a bit with slack release dates and some of the art art (not a massive fan of megatron and some of the later panels look rushed. Also, the colouring standard varies certainlu!

Make it a ******* 11 page weekly again!

One thing is for sure in my eyes. This is not DW. The sunstorm thing was just nice pictures of fights. A ******* 'bag of ****' if you will.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:58 am

I have to say the winner of Megatron against Starscream was never in doubt for a moment, even with Starscream powered up. So that took away from this issue's big event really, though the way Starscream got dispatched was a really great scene. Optimus appearing at the end, no surprise.

However...

Yaya wrote:
We are left with most plot lines open at series end

That is pretty much the point I feel. A new continuity established, a stage now set.

I buy into it. I am patient. If anything I could do without Stormbringer (which I'm sure I will love). I wanted more of a slow unravelling rather than a big reveal.

I think the late release of the last couple of issues left a bad taste with some people - I look forward to reading the whole of Infiltration in one sitting, as what we got (between October '05 and July '06) was drawn out probably longer than the writer intended.

Post by **Denyer** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:38 pm

Arrived this sunny morn.

As expected, things get faster with more characters in the mix. Some bits, notably the Autobots on the ridge and particuarly Sunstreaker, reminded of the Earthforce stories with an ensemble cast -- rarely if ever a bad thing.

For one of the few times in comics, Megatron comes across as a genuine threat -- not the sort of mech others even want to be on the same continent as. The bulk and contrast of his Cybertronian form with the Earthern 'Bots and 'Cons drives home the differences even further.

Most importantly, there's the feel of things being established on Earth. And it's nice to get a forced perspective splash at the end that has a reason, being viewed from Hunter's height.

All in all, very satisfied and I look forward to more, especially if the Machination ultimately doesn't get their hands on Cybertronian tech they can magically understand. (Would be a bit Dreamwave and/or RAAT.) Some solid work on both art and story.

Criticism incoming...

Whatever has to be done to Rauch to get more panels looking like the first few pages, it'd be worthwhile. There are a few problems elsewhere -- his dislike of highlights means some of the metal surfaces look flat. (Sunstreaker on the Ark, for instance -- his leg panels aren't even coloured!) How much effort would it be to give Ironhide in van form the same sheen as the roof of the blue truck two pages earlier? The page after Megatron guts Starscream should be a thing of ruinous beauty, but Megs and the background look like I did it in felt-tip following one of Walky's old tutorials. As a general thing, some colours come out as slightly off-palette or pastel in places, particularly reds and yellows.

All in all, I'm really curious how the 'manga' collected volumes are going to look as lineart, because I don't feel the singles are always being fair to EJ.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:52 pm

Denyer wrote:
Whatever has to be done to Rauch to get more panels looking like the first few pages, it'd be worthwhile. There are a few problems elsewhere -- his dislike of highlights means some of the metal surfaces look flat. (Sunstreaker on the Ark, for instance -- his leg panels aren't even coloured!) How much effort would it be to give Ironhide in van form the same sheen as the roof of the blue truck two pages earlier? The page after Megatron guts Starscream should be a thing of ruinous beauty, but Megs and the background look like I did it in felt-tip following one of Walky's old tutorials. As a general thing, some colours come out as slightly off-palette or pastel in places, particularly reds and yellows.

The inconsistency could well be down to there being six people credited for the colours this issue.

It seems they were up against the clock.

Post by **Denyer** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:08 pm

Maybe the ones who can do metal/glass texture could teach the ones who can't (or don't)?

It's just particularly annoying when the art has detractors, because colouring makes more of a visual difference than's always obvious. The crit's as much for the series as a whole as for this issue.

I'd like to see more of whoever did the last page.

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:40 pm

[composite word including 'f*ck'] yeah, Snarl.

Seeing as copying and pasting is apparently still in this season:

Don't have a lot to say as most of the compliments and crits I have are already posted. I liked it, and Infiltration as a whole. Particularly fond of the old-school feel to the last issue, as mentioned by Denyer. It was an odd, if nice, vibe to get from the comic.

Perfectly happy with the slower, more mysterious pace, although I am slightly iffy on the Machination sub-plot, but at least that gives me something to watch out for in future installments.
Nice to see some confident layered world-building this time around instead of just rushed direct riffing on previous continuity used to establish the series' legitimization.

End result was worth it IMHO, so thanks to the creative team from me and hey ho it's off to Stormbringer we go.

Post by **Best First** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:09 am

i just read this.

Jesus, comparing this to Sunstorm is, sorry, just f'ing stupid. Sunstorm was all over the shop, this is just a question of pacing.

How balls would it be if after the first six issues everything was wrapped up?

Now at times the pacing was too slow for me, and i suspect this could have been condesnsed to 4 issues, but if the release targets had been hit i wouldn't have noticed so much - i really hope IDW can sort this out.

But, after all the cartoon-esque apaff that DW hurled at us, look at what we now have:

- TFs actually working as military units, actually acting as two opposing armies - look at some of he commenst about what it means to be a Deceptiocn for example, great stuff.
- a decent reason for earth to be a pivitol background to the conflict, rather than, 'er, we crashed here, lets just hang about' and for that conflict to get nasty with significant consequecns for the planet
- a cast that isn't being dictated by what wave the toy was released in
- a great big hole in Starscream.

This is going somewhere.

I forgive E.J. everything

i bet he almost came when he read that. He must be so happy.

In terms of issue 6 itself, i specifically liked:

- i really liked that the 'bots didn't get stuck - it made sense and its good to see them acting in this fashion.
- Megs is as cool as i think i have seen him, lets face it he became a bit of a joke as Marvel went on - he's a threat now and his dialogue was excellent
- Starscream actually got some
- the word 'escalation

not so keen on:
- the implication that Starscream isn't dead
- still feel the humes are a bit surplus to requirements, although it was probably worth it for that scene between Verity and Megs last issue
- Sunstreaker seems like a poor choice for the one to be flummoxed by the thought of going at Megs given he is supposed to be hardcore.
- The Mechination hark back to some rather poor marvel plots in my mind.

All in all pretty good, and most importantly there's i think reasonable promise of better to come. Sort out the release dates and i am a satisified customer.

Artwise a lot of the criticism seem pretty finnickerty to me - it was fanstastic in some places and did its job the rest of the time.

veritech · Post by **veritech** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:22 pm

I would have to agree with the objections regarding pacing of the story. This is, however, a problem with the entire comics industry. While not every story has to be self-contained, it would be nice to have some two or three issue arcs. I supposed 6 issues is perfect for a TPB release.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:35 pm

Gah, I still haven't bought this.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:32 pm

I'm reserving judgement on Infiltration. If, three years from now, IDW has used it as the basis for their huge and far-reaching Transformers continuity, then I'm pleased with it. However, if DC is doing The Transformers and IDW's Infiltration, Stormbringer, and five-out-of-six issues of Escalation have been pushed under the rug in favor of Transformers being connected to The OMAC Project, then I'm going to be rather put off.

I like Transformers. I really do. The idea of giant robots waging war on a scale that has never been imagined by human beings to be a really fun concept. The fact that these humongous war machines can turn into pretty much anything AND have had, in many cases, truly compelling personalities makes things all the better. BUT...

It's hard to really care about something that has become little more THAN a concept. What are The Transformers? Are they two races of robotic beings that were created to do the bidding of profiteering warlords? Are they the result of the evolution of naturally occuring circuits and gears? Are they a single race of creatures created to stop the total destruction of the universe by a demigod left over from the previous universe? Were they originally organic beings who, over time, became completely technological?

Is Optimus Prime a self-confident and exceedingly heroic leader? Perhaps he's been forced into the role of leader and isn't completely sure of himself. Maybe, though, he's a complete nonce who would choose death after killing characters in a computer game by mistake. Is he a monkey? A fire truck? A horrificly dubbed sort-of-semi? A fat-ass Voltron knock-off? Does he want his fellow Autobots to bring him the Decepticon's heads just so long as they leave Megatron to him? Is he the guy who spends entire years in stasis? Has he just recently arrived on Earth and has yet to speak a word? Did he once go by Optronix? Orion Pax?

Transformers has gotten HUGE several times. However, it's also been re-booted a half dozen times. Each time things get added to the mythos and other things fall by the wayside. If IDW can turn Infiltration into the basis for the next (and hopefully ongoing) BIG Transformers continuity, then "well done." If not, well, see ya at DC...or Marvel...or Devil's Due...Slave Labor Graphics, perhaps?

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:57 am

So... finally read it. A week after you lads.. bah.

It was pretty good actually, the art had a few weeknesess here and there that's been pointed out, and very few of us are keen on the machination.

Good fight. Good logical use of the humans and getting them the fakk out of there instead of doing it the japanese Armada cartoon-way.

Piqued my interest. But the series overall could have been a bit better, it feels as if there's something missing when all's said and done.

Ah! Now I know! I saw some preview-art of E.J's of a very detailed transformation of Starscream, and some other bots. We never really got to see anything like that.

Denyer wrote:Whatever has to be done to Rauch to get more panels looking like the first few pages, it'd be worthwhile. There are a few problems elsewhere -- his dislike of highlights means some of the metal surfaces look flat. (Sunstreaker on the Ark, for instance -- his leg panels aren't even coloured!) How much effort would it be to give Ironhide in van form the same sheen as the roof of the blue truck two pages earlier? The page after Megatron guts Starscream should be a thing of ruinous beauty, but Megs and the background look like I did it in felt-tip following one of Walky's old tutorials. As a general thing, some colours come out as slightly off-palette or pastel in places, particularly reds and yellows.

Wholeheartedly agree. Couldn't have said it any better myself at all.

As gay as I am myself for highlights I cryed a bit at times...

This thing with several colourists on duty is something I myself dislike, and the reasons for it can be seen in other places too, like in the 2-issue Ultimate Fantastic Four vs X-men, where there was also several colourists, that ended up making everything super-light and washed out. Too many chefs spoil the broth entirely.

All in all, I'm really curious how the 'manga' collected volumes are going to look as lineart, because I don't feel the singles are always being fair to EJ.

Don't expect any miracles. Or are you forgetting that the inking that E.J received has been somewhat inconsistant too?

Post by **Best First** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:36 am

Predabot wrote:As gay as I am myself for highlights

um... what?

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:42 am

Predabot wrote:Or are you forgetting that the inking that E.J received has been somewhat inconsistant too?

Receiving? He does his own inking, IIRC.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:50 am

That used to be a proper word. Now it means all sorts of things!

(You have no idea how many times I've heard my grandparents say that.)

Okay, I finally got this. And Hearts of Steel. Apparently, if I had just waited for this weekend, I could have gotten Stormbringer as well. Damn. Now I'll have to sell some blood for gasoline to go to the comic store.

I partially agree with Yaya. This story had a ton of potential, a lot of hints at both deeper plot and deeper characters than other reboots (G1 V1) tried. But when Simon made it into simply a prelude story, he really robbed it of a lot of potential power. A lot can be done in six issues. Kingdom Come was four, if I remember right. If Simon had pushed Megs in a little sooner, he could have brought in Optimus Prime in time for a battle royale at the end of this thing. Or (shades of New Order) we could have had Ratchet fight the Megs. Something. The ending just gave us setup, as Smooth pointed out.

However, I am loving this art more and more. IDW has gotten rid of the most annoying aspects of Dreamwave's art: the unrelenting pinups with no sense of story flow. EJ Su's TFs look huge and menacing. The only thing I miss is the hope for Wildman. I would love to just get an ongoing TF series every month, done by Furman and Wildman. But these pics-- the Megs and Screamer fight, the beautiful Prime at the end-- they're just amazing. The art really helps this more realistic take.\

[edit] PS-- Denyer, on your questionnaire, you list the Blackthorne comics as having ran from October-December 2002. Since I bought them in 1992, I think you made a booby.

Aardvark · Post by **Aardvark** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:20 am

Simon had pushed Megs in a little sooner, he could have brought in Optimus Prime in time for a battle royal at the end of this thing. Or (shades of New Order) we could have had Ratchet fight the Megs.

The former of coarse would have been greeted by "Oh great Prime saved the day again" while the latter would have with met with "Can't Furman write any new scripts-At least his own YARARARRAR". I was extremely pleased with the lack of Prime…

I found the subtle, "anti-climax" a rather refreshing approach to the story. Screamers didn't go all God-like and Megs still was able to defeat him, in a somewhat "dignified manner". The big reveal ending was almost as clichéd as a "Prime V Megs" fiasco but was saved by the excellent artwork (A pity it wasn't like that for the rest of the issue) Ah hell here's my original review;

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times"

That pretty much sums up my feelings on this one; in many respects this was one of the best issues of the series however it was somewhat let down by a few crippling flaws.

Having said that as an individual issue it holds up better than most if not all of the previous issues. The pacing was spot on. Unlike the previous issue I didn't feel like I just read 4 pages nor did end so abruptly. More importantly it was an extremely enjoyable read. The dialogue/writing was superb and arguably the best of the series.

However as the final part of chapter 1 in an ongoing series it did not fare so well; very little was resolved or revealed and furthermore very little has changed since the first issue. I was a bit apprehensive of splitting the series into “phases” and this only reinforces my unease.

The premise wasn’t great; Megs v Starscream! *Sigh* Yeah I’ve been banging on about that for a long time but in fairness it was handled well and surprisingly didn’t reek of “Underbase”. The fact that he was able to best Screamers without him “overloading” or Prime showing up and saving the day was a nice surprise. I expected Screamers to be a lot more super powered and I was quite pleased to proven wrong. The subtle, anticlimax was somewhat of a refreshing approach.

In fact the big battle was rather nifty. In terms of Transformers they don’t get much better; extremely well executed and wonderful to look at; the impact of the battle was helped by Infiltration’s cinematic approach to Transformers and the final blow was one of the best scenes of the entire series.

Furman has given us a fantastic portrayal of Megatron. Perhaps it’s down to Megs not getting his ass kicked or perhaps it’s because he doesn’t come across as a complete knob. Simon’s made it clear that he’s a proper, military commander who is indeed a threat.

There’s no cartoon villainy here! The same can’t be said for Screamers however even he’s more camp than cartoonish and the contrast between the two characters works rather well. I love the sense of Decepticon pride Megs seems to uphold. IDW’s Megs could be a match for G2 Meggy.

I never thought I’d say this but I actually didn't mind Screamers. He added some “fun” to the story and appeared to be a tad more complex than his previous incarnations. He’s camp but not too camp. Still they should have killed him off for good; that was the lowest point of the issue, a complete cop-out and if he does come back and I pray he doesn't, he cannot continue to be the bugbear that is “Starscream” otherwise IDW will lose Aardvark points.

...As for the Autobots, Furman’s got a pretty good foundation to build on; Sunstreaker and Jazz received some pretty decent characterisation more so the former than the latter. Yeah it’s nothing radical but Sunstreaker does receive some snappy, biting lines and the subtle portrayal of his sheer contempt for humans makes for excellent reading. Though Furman has really dropped the ball on the Wheeljack front. I actually liked the fact the Autobots stood back and watched and I love how little Meg’s cared about them.

The aforementioned Dickens quote also applies to the artwork. It started off wonderfully with some rich detailed scenes. And then it kind of took a nosedive and didn’t really recover. The style was a lot more consistent than the previous issues with Su maintaining his more cartoonish approach rather than the serious, realistic style he usually combines the former with. A pity really as I personally prefer Su’s mix and match approach.

The cartoonish approach, accompanied by some overly bright colours did not work in favour of the Transformers. Suntreaker’s colouring was diabolical. Overall the artwork was disappointing especially after seeing the impressive 5-page preview.

The ending (I’m really talking about the final page here) was unbelievably predictable and uninspiring leaving me with a slight taste of “Meh” though at least it was delivered well. Oh and the previous few pages with Machination didn’t add all that much to the story at hand, it’s pretty damn clear what they were up to.

The lack of human insight/panel time in this issue was a tad odd. Why Furman decided to make them less of a priority in the final issue is anyone’s guess. It didn’t seem like it was in keeping with the rest of the series. And the scene with Verity crying was more laughable than touching.

All in all a pretty good issue that didn’t add much to the series.

Sorry about the length

Post by **Best First** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:29 am

its hardly "the worst of times" is it?

Aardvark · Post by **Aardvark** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:51 am

By worst of times I don't mean in the entire history of Transformers and all it’s universes, only to the "Infiltration" series, so in that sense yes, it did contain some of the worst (and best) moments of the series; the artwork was the best I've seen in regards to the first few pages and ironically the last page. However wedged in between was the worst artwork of the title {particularly the colouring}

The Megs/Screamer battle was superb and well executed, one of the highlights of the series. The dialogue peeked in this issue, with Meggy and Sunstreaker receiving some truly memorable lines. Yet on the other side of the coin, IMHO Furman's approach to the humans was poor, seemingly ignoring them, adding absolutely nothing to the characters development/personalities etc. It seemed rather odd to focus on the 3 for 5 issues and then basically discarding them; it somewhat undermines the previous panel time devoted to them and if we take "Infiltration" as a single chapter, well then it comes across as slightly incomplete.

Furthermore the indication that Screamers is alive was one of the comic's low points; however if he doesn't survive that point will be rendered obsolete

But that's just Aardvark's take on it...

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:44 pm

Well I bought it and liked it as usual, but the colouring in places is shocking, particularly when I've got Stormbringer next to it. I understand Ryall wants to support his staff, even reassuring us that he's not going anywhere for the next series, but Rauch just doesn't seem up to the job, particularly when it seems anyone who happened to be passing the IDW offices had a go at the colouring on this one. I was happy with the storyline, and the appearance of Op is great, (particularly as he's still hanging out with Searchlight and Pincher in his Cybertron duds in Stormbringer) - overall I think this series is the foundation for something that could be incredible.

I'd give this issue a 7 or 8 for plot, 5 or 6 for art, mostly let down by the flat and uninspiring colours.

Post by **Denyer** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:53 pm

Apparently #6 is as much to do with Rauch receiving artwork to be coloured late. There's a bunch of reasons this could've happened -- art approval from Hasbro, unavoidable real-life distractions for Su, general problems with monthly deadlines when working without a buffer, etc. Hopefully this won't be the case in future. Even so, Rauch does actively seem to dislike highlights or broadening a palette -- that's been consistent throughout the series (as I'm guessing #1, for example, was done with more time for each stage.)

Assuming this is the same guy:
http://eraserx.cgsociety.org/gallery/
http://www.pensnpixels.com/9-volt2/john ... k_Coloring

...colouring the lines -- as per this tutorial he wrote -- would make a considerable difference, offsetting the choice of a smaller palette and softer colours. It'd still make sense to ramp up the contrast, lightness and saturation somewhat for action panels. Wildman's covers so far have had more the general ratios I'm thinking about (not just the fact more time's gone into them; the basic colour selections.)

sprunkner wrote:[edit] PS-- Denyer, on your questionnaire, you list the Blackthorne comics as having ran from October-December 2002. Since I bought them in 1992, I think you made a booby.

Questionnaire? Er, afraid you've lost me...

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:45 am

Ozz wrote:
Predabot wrote:Or are you forgetting that the inking that E.J received has been somewhat inconsistant too?
Receiving? He does his own inking, IIRC.

Really?? {checks Infiltration issues}

By golly, you're right.

But wait a minute... if you combine the fact that Mr Su makes his own inking with the fact that we've seen varying quality in the inking in a couple of issues...

Uh.. has he been working at too tight a schedule then?

Post by **Denyer** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:02 am

General spec... rather than Prime showing up as the last panel, it might have been more effective to have the Autobots stand around and wonder what the hell they were going to do next, then get him on a vidscreen saying he's been talking with Ironhide and Ratchet and will be along shortly. Followed by Prowl looking rather worried.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:57 am

Den,

It's the Archive's list of answers to the FAQs about TFs, in the short section on the Blackthorne 3-D issues. In my mind, you are the Archive.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:42 pm

My brother finally got to reading the Infiltration issues. He's not the biggest TF fan and usually reads them when he's caught up on his other titles and when he's caught up on his work as a lawyer.

The verdict?

He finds Infiltration NOT GUILTY of being a bad title.

He thought it was very good, better than anything Dreamwave put out except for the G1 ongoing with Mick and Figueroa. He thought E.J. Su's pencilling was as good as Dons and loved how the Megatron, Starscream battle was done.

He read the first two issues of Beast Wars, to which he was completely confused, but he never followed BW.

Anyway, I consider my bro to be of good taste, and the fact that he thoroughly enjoyed Infiltration in my view is a good sign.

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