Beast Wars Issue 1

Post by **Best First** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:42 pm

Story - great
Art - great
Colouring - Great.

Great. Great. Great.

I have reread it four times already and don't think it could have been much better.

Special Thanks to MV for giving me aq copy ina pub late last night because he had 2 and i had none.

i love this place.

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:17 pm

I really enjoyed it too.

Razorbeast is teh cool

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 9:25 pm

What the fark??! It's out?! Damn! I keep missing everything.

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:09 am

Predabot wrote:What the fark??! It's out?! Damn! I keep missing everything.

http://www.transfans.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4767

FFS.

You might wanna keep track of this thread.

I might wanna get this series after all.

Post by **Best First** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:02 am

oh yes.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 10:22 am

It's very, very good. I think I described it to my housemates as "magnificent". I didn't actually get to read it until Sunday morning due to excessive alcohol intake on Saturday night, but it really was worth waiting for. Magmatron is a great villain, and I love his line towards the end: "So. That is how it is to be." Lovely.

Besty wrote:Story - great
Art - great
Colouring - Great.

Agreed.

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:37 am

Chiming in with the BW love.
Particularly liked the art techniques used for the Cybertron pages.

Loved how this comic just got down to it, bish bash bosh there's your set-up and cast, next!
The pacing control was effective for me. Nicely crafted stuff. Liked how the main protagonist pretty much stands in place whilst everything around him moves, his plan unravels and he's still this big dominating presence.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:52 am

Haven't read it just yet.

Am I to take from all this love that its better than Infiltration?

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:01 pm

I think so.

It looks like it's going to be a really big story. This is good.

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:06 pm

The flashback scenes and the transition to them is perfect.

Post by **Best First** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 6:36 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:Haven't read it just yet.

Am I to take from all this love that its better than Infiltration?

hmm. controversial.

its very different in terms of pacing and assumed knolwedge, and you don't know many of the cast.

I think BW's is easier in a way as the continuity is a lot more linear, whereas G1 has been rebooted to buggery (ouch).

Oddly i actually think Don is better suited to the beasty stuff, the more colourful look suits his art (and i'ts great to see solid black being used well after DW).

actually all this is just me working my way up to saying Yes, it probably is better than infiltration.

but the comparison is a little unfair as thsi seems more squarly aimed at the fans which means it is less hamstrung by an introductory narritive.

Simon's done a blinder either way.

2 good TF comics. i'm confused.

yay.

saysadie · Post by **saysadie** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:59 am

Haven't read- haven't been paying attention to much tf-wise for a long time. But it's the one comic I'm actually still interested in [asides from the UK] and I trust the judgement of you peoples. After reading talk, I'm fairly excited about it again.

Soporific · Post by **Soporific** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:02 pm

Although I thought it was good, I'd have to say that I have preferred Infiltration so far. I was a bit dispointed in the use of Magmatron for a name. I'm all for a differnet leader but why such a similar name to Megatron, it felt forced to me. Similarly the use of a Oppy Prime head on the maximal commander. Do maximals just get given a optimus head when they are in charge???

Also wasn't too impressed with Magmatron's alt modes, I can see the sea one just flopping about on the ground while the other two do their thing.

Besides that I thought it a good read and definatley like the where it appears to be going. The out of sinc time thing was very cool.

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 12:58 pm

Well, Soporific, you have to remember that Magmatron is a villain from Beast Wars Neo in Japan, and a future member of the new Dinobots in Beast Machines, hence the name Magmatron, and the alt-modes. He acctually had a toy.

You did notice that he's got several modes I hope? He's basically a sort of combiner, of a pterodactyl, a Tyrannosaurus, and a Plesiousaurus.

Means he can operate in both land, water and the air, at the same time.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 1:25 pm

Predabot wrote:Well, Soporific, you have to remember that Magmatron is a villain from Beast Wars Neo in Japan, and a future member of the new Dinobots in Beast Machines, hence the name Magmatron, and the alt-modes. He acctually had a toy.

Even when he's a Dinobot, he's still a Predacon though - his box came with Japanese writing and a Pred insignia.

Post by **Best First** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:11 pm

Soporific wrote:Although I thought it was good, I'd have to say that I have preferred Infiltration so far. I was a bit dispointed in the use of Magmatron for a name. I'm all for a differnet leader but why such a similar name to Megatron, it felt forced to me. Similarly the use of a Oppy Prime head on the maximal commander. Do maximals just get given a optimus head when they are in charge???

Also wasn't too impressed with Magmatron's alt modes, I can see the sea one just flopping about on the ground while the other two do their thing.

Besides that I thought it a good read and definatley like the where it appears to be going. The out of sinc time thing was very cool.

As Pred has partially pointed out these are all existing toys/charactres, just ones that never made it into our continiuities previoulsy.

The Maximal is Leoconoy.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:50 pm

LioConvoy. As in Lion, not Leo.

Loved it! Especially the cameos for Dead End and Killer Punch. Anything that can throw away a Killer Punch cameo is the sex.

Predabot wrote:He's basically a sort of combiner, of a pterodactyl, a Tyrannosaurus, and a Plesiousaurus.

Quetzalcoatlus, Elasmosaur and Gigatosaurus, iirc. Just to be pedantic. Or just to be me, whichever you prefer.

Handy guide to identifying JBW toys/chars!
http://tfarchive.com/toys/references/ja ... stwars.php

I'm sure I put elasmosaur when I submitted it.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:03 pm

Really enjoyed it, even though I'm not familiar with all the characters. Didn't pick up on the fact that Magmatron had 3 modes tho... oops.

But I do think its the best art I've seen Don do.

Post by **Best First** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:35 am

i completely agree. His story telling is definitely improving.

Post by **Denyer** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:16 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:Am I to take from all this love that its better than Infiltration?

It's different. Personally I enjoy Infiltration more overall.

Anyway, my late and preliminary review:

http://tfarchive.com/comics/idw/beastwars1.php

Comments, crits and correction of blatant mistakes welcome. Even if it's just "you nicked our review format, you git."

Soporific · Post by **Soporific** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:05 am

Sorry guys,
I don't really know anything about beast machines or the Japanese tfs, I just thought they where new characters. The fact he was a combiner was kind of my gripe, I just felt that if you need all your alt modes in the same place to combine it would be easier if you didn't have ones that where confined to different terrain.
Once again sorry, I didn't mean to rub people the wrong way.

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:41 pm

It's really no problem Soporific.

I've read it now, and I have to say, I enjoyed it more than Infiltration too.

Josh's colours are pretty darn great. Good stuff.

Makes me wish he was on the regular book as colourist, instead of Rausch. Wich I really feel is turning in Sub-par work on Infiltration. He's ussually much better, I really have no clue what the heck he's up to.

As for the writing and art, well their both top-notch. And really, what do you expect, it's BEAST WARS!

{cue insane electric guitarr-solo from season 2}

Durun durun durun duu! Dun duu!

I think, that if you left both Don and Simon on this series for more than the 4 issues alloted, and let em' rip at it, it could be bloody awesome. There's just so many cool things to do with the worlds of the Beast Wars.

Post by **Best First** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:15 pm

Predabot wrote:It's really no problem Soporific.

yeah, if anything we probably all enjoyed the chance to show off our geek knowledge and inability to spell.

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:57 pm

Best First wrote:and inability to spell.

which our esteemed leader is normally all too eager to share with us!

Post by **Best First** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:24 am

your unneccesary embellishment of an already implicit gag earns you 5 Predabot points.

redeemable at all dubious pet food stores.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:35 am

I never get Predabot points...

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:22 am

Best First wrote:your unneccesary embellishment of an already implicit gag earns you 5 Predabot points.

redeemable at all dubious pet food stores.

NNNNNNNOoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sprunkner wrote:I never get Predabot points...

you can have mine if you want....

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:48 pm

I just had a looong discussion with a fellow HUngarian Transfan who think Furman ruined the show with this comic. LOng story short, I pointed out to him that none of the TFs were organic before they arrived on Earth, but he did raise a point -

When DW went down, we got previews about their upcoming BW comic. Now, I know it's essentially the same as The Gathering, but did Simon rewrite-it or did Don draw new pages?

And how come, if they already got the rights to use this DW material, that they don't have the right yet to publish Energon or TWW?

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:19 pm

BB Shockwave wrote:LOng story short, I pointed out to him that none of the TFs were organic before they arrived on Earth

Or even afterwards.

The BW characters are no more organic than a ye olde Pretender. It's synthetic covering.

Otherwise the reformatting in Beast Machines makes no sense at all.

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:59 am

BB Shockwave wrote:Now, I know it's essentially the same as The Gathering, but did Simon rewrite-it or did Don draw new pages?

Both? Seems likely going by what Mr F said and simple common sense.

And how come, if they already got the rights to use this DW material, that they don't have the right yet to publish Energon or TWW?

*This* material would not really count as DW stuff.
It's possible the other reprints are coming, considering they've just reprinted some DW G1 stuff and the MTMTE books are listed as being reprinted by them in the Summer. And it's possible they're not.