This is Genius (featuring Optimus)

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This is Genius (featuring Optimus)

Post by Yaya » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:38 am

Don't know if this has been posted before, but:

http://www.jcbsong.co.uk/jcbvideo.asp

This is pure genius. I would say in all likelihood, this has been posted before.

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Post by KingMob » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:12 am

Yaya wrote:This is pure genius. I would say in all likelihood, this has been posted before.
Yes.
But not in this forum.
And it is brilliant.
Thankyou.

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Post by anna » Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:48 pm

now that was cool!(song wasnt halfbad either) thanks for posting it(makes me wish i was more of a contributer to this site)
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Post by Yaya » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:07 pm

I showed this to someone else, and they thought it was childish.

It never ceases to amaze me how idiots fail to mistake something of pure genius for childish rubbish. As if they are too mature for that sort of thing.

For example, Jim Henson was a genius. With his muppet creations and movies like the Dark Crystal, there is no doubt in my mind the man was genius. Same thing with Dr. Seuss. Both of these people dealt with childhood themes, but there was certainly a wonderfully unique artistic sense in how they stretched their imaginations to create something so unusual, that it altogether transcended the childhood themes of their work.

Imagination is like clay. Use it well, and it becomes art. Henson, Dr. Seuss. They used it very well, better than most.

This JCB cartoon is genius.

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Post by inflatable dalek » Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:48 pm

Though considering it talks about transforming into a T-Rex, surely it should be Grimlock in the video?

What's that? Overly nit-picky? Me? With my reputation? never!
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Post by spiderfrommars » Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:04 pm

I believe its No. 1 in the UK singles chart now...

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Post by Dead Head » Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:00 pm

Yuck. Crappy song.

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Post by inflatable dalek » Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:26 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:I believe its No. 1 in the UK singles chart now...
Lets prey for a miricle and hope it keeps Lame Shane of the top spot for Christmas day...
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Post by Best First » Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:33 pm

Dead Head wrote:Yuck. Crappy song.
how so?

may not be to your taste, but that's a different matter.

The video makes it for me. great stuff.
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Post by Dead Head » Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:18 am

Yaya wrote: This is pure genius.
Genius? Pure genius? An abused word.
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Dead Head wrote:Yuck. Crappy song.
how so?
I heard this godawful song before seeing the accompanying movie. Appropriately or not, music videos can really have an influence on a song's success. I can understand how people are sending this to each other a la "Fwd: FWD: cute JCB music vid - Watch this (featuring ZOIDS!!)" or similar. I suspect the goofy video has a significant part to play in this dreadful song's success. It's a fairly well put-together vid and has a unique enough 'copybook pages' style about it. Judged separately however (but I don't think that that's happening much), the song totally falls flat on it's butt.


- not very good vocals.

- tolerable instrumentation.

- *terrible* lyrics (trying to tell a 'salt-of-the-earth' tale in a 'homely' way, but they come off as contrived and somewhat cynically targeting)
"eat up all the bullies" yada yada yada.
"me and my dad 'avin' a top larrf. oh-wooooooooooooah!" simply horrendous stuff.
"i'm luke, i'm five" over and over ad nauseum.

- cynical name-checking of some past cult entertainment items to blatantly tick a few boxes of today's monied professionals demographic.




"Well I liked it. It's just a bit of fun, you killjoy. You do better, mister snobby! At least it's not William Hung or Ashlee Simpson or whoever. Whaddya want - Beethoven FFS?!!", some might say (or indeed, many/most might say). Fair enough, but I still say this JCB stuff is saccharine garbage.


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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:22 am

I think the video is technically very good and well executed, the song isnt my cup of tea, cant quite put my finger onit, its a bit um twee? not sure if thats the word for it, just a bit nicey nice, or somthing for me.

I can see why ppl enjoy it tho - and yes i heard the Optimus line to... clearly not gonna transform into a Dinosaur...
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Post by Yaya » Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:05 am

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:I think the video is technically very good and well executed, the song isnt my cup of tea, cant quite put my finger onit, its a bit um twee? not sure if thats the word for it, just a bit nicey nice, or somthing for me.
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Nicey nice, yes, but sometimes we need a little of that in our lives.

I find this video amazing because despite the simplicity of the animation and simplicity of the theme (hanging out with dad), it's quite unusual and unique in its presentation. Whoever came up with this was thinking different, and that's what I like about it. It's different.

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Post by Best First » Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:40 am

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I'm an unsalvagable grinch and I hate fun.
Yes, that was what primarily came across.

doesn't feel particularly cyncial to me. bit gimmicky maybe. will become annoying soon enouygh anyway.

Still, in the name of finding common ground, lets just all agree that its not as good as East 17s Christmas classic 'Stay Now', eh?
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Post by KingMob » Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:50 am

inflatable dalek wrote:Though considering it talks about transforming into a T-Rex, surely it should be Grimlock in the video?
While it's not clearly a robot at all, there is a large grey and gold T-Rex in the background around that line, isn't there?

Hmmm. I actually like it pretty much because of all the reasons Dead Head doesn't....

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Post by spiderfrommars » Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:27 pm

The song isn't my thing, tho I like the sentiment behind it. The video deserves all the praise its had.

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Post by Best First » Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:32 pm

KingMob wrote:
inflatable dalek wrote:Though considering it talks about transforming into a T-Rex, surely it should be Grimlock in the video?
While it's not clearly a robot at all, there is a large grey and gold T-Rex in the background around that line, isn't there?
yip, i'd like to think the colours are deliberate.
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Post by Optimus Prime Rib » Fri Dec 23, 2005 6:43 pm

makes me miss my dad, and being a kid. And the childhood I didnt get to really have with him, being in the military and all.
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Post by jboyler » Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:56 am

I find this video amazing because despite the simplicity of the animation ...
I completely disagree. The animation looks simple because it's intended to duplicate a child's artwork, but that's not all there is to it. The animation is remarkably fluid for flash art, and there is a huge amount of fore and background details. Watch the out-of-focus hills in the foreground, and the mushrooming hills in the background. Check out the clouds and all the minor characters. Watch the expressions of the people as they go by. The animation is anything but simple.

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Post by Yaya » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:12 pm

jboyler wrote:
I find this video amazing because despite the simplicity of the animation ...
I completely disagree. The animation looks simple because it's intended to duplicate a child's artwork, but that's not all there is to it. The animation is remarkably fluid for flash art, and there is a huge amount of fore and background details. Watch the out-of-focus hills in the foreground, and the mushrooming hills in the background. Check out the clouds and all the minor characters. Watch the expressions of the people as they go by. The animation is anything but simple.

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Yes, I agree with you that its not a simple feat to create something like this. However, it is purposefully intended to look simple because it echoes the theme of the video. It is intended to look have that simple look of something a child would create.

As far as achieving this, no doubt, to think up something like this and then to animate it is not simple. Genius is never simple.

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Post by Best First » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:59 pm

Yaya wrote:Genius is never simple.
since when?
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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:00 pm

Rain man? - simple Genius... yawn
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