I love the cartoon

divebomb · Post by **divebomb** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:19 am

-Aerialbots over America - Megatron's continuing obsession with dams!

-TF Number 1 - Roll Call Fever!

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:38 pm

divebomb wrote:-Aerialbots over America - Megatron's continuing obsession with dams!

-TF Number 1 - Roll Call Fever!

surely "Decepticon Dambusters! 2 "

Laserwave · Post by **Laserwave** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:45 pm

MTMTE Part II: We attack at sunrise!!

divebomb · Post by **divebomb** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:00 pm

Impactor returns 2.0
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 3:38:pm Post subject:
divebomb wrote:
-Aerialbots over America - Megatron's continuing obsession with dams!

-TF Number 1 - Roll Call Fever!

surely "Decepticon Dambusters! 2 "

Yes. Yes it should.

Uberking Robert · Post by **Uberking Robert** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:47 am

Without question the American G1 cartoon's first season had the best themesong.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:32 pm

Uberking Robert wrote:Without question the American G1 cartoon's first season had the best themesong.

And you felt the need to post that in this thread... because... ?

The Last Autobot · Post by **The Last Autobot** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:53 pm

Well to be fair, although the comic titles didnt sell the story as the cartoon ones. Sure the covers did the job in the same way.

Why put a title "Unicron eating Cybetron" or alike if you show something like this? To me is the same thing.

Oh, and hello again!

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:57 pm

The Last Autobot wrote:
Oh, and hello again!

Hi.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:21 pm

The Last Autobot wrote:Well to be fair, although the comic titles didnt sell the story as the cartoon ones. Sure the covers did the job in the same way.

Why put a title "Unicron eating Cybetron" or alike if you show something like this? To me is the same thing.

Oh, and hello again!

How is it the same thing? - it says "The End?" - which is a good title.
Compared to cartoon titles that generally were crap.
think your missing the point.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:28 pm

Some covers did give away the story tho... see UK 321.

I think some of the earlier UK ones were very good at concealing surprises tho.

The Last Autobot · Post by **The Last Autobot** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:31 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote: How is it the same thing? - it says "The End?" - which is a good title.
Compared to cartoon titles that generally were crap.
think your missing the point.

Im not missing the point Im taking it somewhere else

. Having a crappy title that gives away the story is the same as having a cover doing the same thing.

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:47 pm

But it's not the same level as The Death of Ultra Magnus, methinks. That cover only shows what you were already expecting when you'd seen last page of the previous issue. Maybe you'd need to find another example.

Actually I like how in Polish version we had US# 74 and #75 as one issue with the cover of the former (Prime and Scorpy clobbering worshippers of Unicron). "Don't want to die". "Me too". "Kill Prime!". *slash* *boom* "Naming you leader of the alliance was a part of my plan". Oh, ****, UNCIRON'S ALREADY HERE!

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:57 pm

The Last Autobot wrote:
Impactor returns 2.0 wrote: How is it the same thing? - it says "The End?" - which is a good title.
Compared to cartoon titles that generally were crap.
think your missing the point.
Im not missing the point Im taking it somewhere else . Having a crappy title that gives away the story is the same as having a cover doing the same thing.

No way, they are two different concepts.
especially when the cover doesnt always show what happens inside - it clear wasnt 'the end' was it?

so hence better cover. then crapo cartoon title.

also you have to consider the format. the cartoon doesnt have a cover does it.

either way the comic cover is a totaly different concept and you have missed the point.

The Last Autobot · Post by **The Last Autobot** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:49 pm

Stormwolf wrote:
All this and civil war 2 - Decepticons attack Decepticons!
Rhythems of Darkness - The Decepticons won, OH NO!!!

No way, they are two different concepts.
especially when the cover doesnt always show what happens inside - it clear wasnt 'the end' was it?

so hence better cover. then crapo cartoon title.

also you have to consider the format. the cartoon doesnt have a cover does it.

either way the comic cover is a totaly different concept and you have missed the point.

Yes the titles didnt tell a thing of what was going to happen.
On the other hand the covers didnt quite do it... Crap cartoon title, crap cover showing what is going to happen anyway

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:45 pm

your still missing the point...
And comparing concepts that work by two different mediums.

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:30 pm

A Rage In Heaven- The Swarm Swams!

The Last Autobot- The Penultimate Doom!

Actually, to be fair to the cartoon, Forever Is A Long Time Coming is a wonderful title, especialy because it's so meaningles...

Uberking Robert · Post by **Uberking Robert** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:07 am

The G1 American cartoon ruled. It was the one that started the whole thing.

Uberking Robert · Post by **Uberking Robert** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:10 am

The Last Autobot wrote:Well to be fair, although the comic titles didnt sell the story as the cartoon ones. Sure the covers did the job in the same way.

Why put a title "Unicron eating Cybetron" or alike if you show something like this? To me is the same thing.

Oh, and hello again!

That pic sucks. The Ark is way too small and there's no way Unicron can be even as big as Metroplex, judging from that pic.

Post by **Denyer** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:01 am

Uberking Robert wrote:It was the one that started the whole thing.

Ignorance will get you everywhere...

The original characters were written by Jim Shooter and Bob Budiansky after Hasbro approached Marvel.

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:45 am

Denyer wrote:
Uberking Robert wrote:It was the one that started the whole thing.

The original characters were written by Jim Shooter and Bob Budiansky after Hasbro approached Marvel.

Comics legend Denny O'Neil was also involved long enough to name Optimus Prime, according to Budiansky.

Post by **Denyer** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:00 am

Mmm, quite a lot of action going on the comics offices, really... and somewhat later stuff landed on G. A. Bloom's desk...

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:02 am

Uberking Robert wrote:The G1 American cartoon ruled. It was the one that started the whole thing.

check your history - all it started was 3 series of 20 min toy commercials called 'TF:episodes'

Bouncelot · Post by **Bouncelot** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:20 pm

Denyer wrote:
Uberking Robert wrote:It was the one that started the whole thing.
Ignorance will get you everywhere...

The original characters were written by Jim Shooter and Bob Budiansky after Hasbro approached Marvel.

And I'm pretty sure that the US comic came out before the first ep of the G1 cartoon aired, as well.

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:46 pm

Uberking Robert wrote:That pic sucks. The Ark is way too small and there's no way Unicron can be even as big as Metroplex, judging from that pic.

The Ark? What? where? Metroplex? eh?

Bouncelot · Post by **Bouncelot** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:51 pm

Legion wrote:
Uberking Robert wrote:That pic sucks. The Ark is way too small and there's no way Unicron can be even as big as Metroplex, judging from that pic.
The Ark? What? where? Metroplex? eh?

Presumably the Ark is way too small because you can't see it.

ShadowSonic · Post by **ShadowSonic** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:46 pm

The Ark is that ship Unicron is holding. I think that's what he's referring to. And he's right, it is too small. And Unicron is MUCH MUCH too small.

Bouncelot · Post by **Bouncelot** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:51 pm

ShadowSonic wrote:The Ark is that ship Unicron is holding. I think that's what he's referring to. And he's right, it is too small. And Unicron is MUCH MUCH too small.

In which case, why are Scorponok, Prime, Kup, and Galvatron falling out of it?

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:53 pm

ShadowSonic wrote:The Ark is that ship Unicron is holding. I think that's what he's referring to. And he's right, it is too small. And Unicron is MUCH MUCH too small.

The "ship", is in fact Cybertron...

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:17 pm

Artistic license isnt comparable to ***** titles

Post by **Denyer** » Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:31 pm

If you assume there's a few miles below Grimlock, the perspective just about works.