Oh wow...just wow.

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:26 pm

Got this from LitG. Look at http://www.dreamengine.ca/ it's gone live (and has sounds).

And it is a temple to self-obsession, PR-gobbledycrap, too much wank-induced blindness (Pat's profile lists him as a member of the House of the Iron Snake and lists his OMG newest NINJA!!11 skill as Venemous Brush) and frankly, mounds and mounds of ****.

*Hi, Pat!*

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:41 pm

So, did the stolen profits from Dreamwave (stolen from the pockets of the employees that is) help pay for that website or was it mommy & daddy lending a helping bank account?

*[composite word including 'f*ck'] you Pat.*

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:47 pm

I was going to say, "Did they pay the web designer?"

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:17 pm

looks like Pat himself did the web build, judging by the quality of the html code... it's quite shocking... and the entire page is in flash, bad bad bad...

*yawn*

next...

although, quite funnily, when i clicked on the "principles" link, i get presented with a blank page! mwahahahah...

[edit] correction: the site's apparently owned by roger lee, so it was probably him who did the build, pat probably just told him what colours to use.

plus, they've owned the name since the beginning of last december, when did DW go tits up again?

heheh, i've now also got their address, oooh the joys of a little bit of technie knowledge

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divebomb · Post by **divebomb** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:23 pm

Is it just me or is it highly pretencious???

We specialise in websites and my boss is one of the best flash operators in the UK, I just showed him and he laughed. Oh well i'm just going back off to polish our BAFTA

Post by **Best First** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:44 pm

holy freaking shiznit:

Dream Engine will meet any creative challenge in the world of exciting new opportunities for multimedia content providers.

I have a creative challeng efor you: Pay Guido Guidi

Pat Lee's unique skill is

Preying.

ha ha ha!

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:36 pm

I acctually find it to be rather cool really.

There's a few things to work out, such as making the menus bigger and more visible, and make some of the icons easier to click by acctually having them stand still, but the general concept look good to me.

Doesn't mean I'm the biggest fan of the company all of a sudden, mind you all.

And what's wrong with all flash?

Me love flash.

Well, I suppose they could have a little sign if you don't have flash, prior to entering it, that it's required.

Dead Head · Post by **Dead Head** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:12 pm

Predabot wrote:And what's wrong with all flash? Me love flash.

Is it often wholey unnecessary, user-unfriendly, and is totally inaccessible for certain types of disabled web users.

E.J.Su · Post by **E.J.Su** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:54 pm

I really like how Roger Lee dislikes "dishonesty and greed"

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:09 pm

*Makes note in manifest..*

E J Su enjoys self-loathing in Roger Lee.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:15 pm

E.J.Su wrote:I really like how Roger Lee dislikes "dishonesty and greed"

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:05 pm

Predabot wrote:
And what's wrong with all flash? Me love flash.

Means I can't look at the site for a start.

Probably not a bad thing.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:24 pm

the quotes are very up there own arse.

Pats Work in places is great, but he cant draw Transformers, he can draw tho. and should be credited for this, I allways felt his strengths lay with non technicall illustrations and more with fluid organics like humans and such.
His tecnicall Illustrations look like every other JPN styled robot manga from the late 80's-90's. Id like to point ppl attention for mecha towards Appleseed, not the old one but the new Half CGI, half hand drawn DVD.

The Flash content of the site, the spinny main interface isnt very memory efficant, and the roll-overs work on a very small target area - they should use invisible target areas the same size as the finnished target area, and also have a priority over which image first in use so that it doesnt become confused between two.

The rest of the site I quite like, but it doesnt need to be flash based at all - some englargment feature would also be nice.

Oh and better yet, paying his debts too!

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 2:20 am

I'd laugh if so many people I know and respect aren't owed piles of money by this asshole.

Post by **Best First** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:06 am

Prior to joining Dream Wngine Inc., Pat Lee was President of Dreamwave Productions Inc., bringing innovative concepts and unique ideas to the comic book world

Innovative concepts and unique ideas such as:

- not paying your staff
- driving wildly successful brands into the ground
- channelling profits from your work into a speate company when its not looking so good
- and of course tidal waves that kill nobody (hello!)

what a c***. i mean really, what a c***. And newsarama should be ashamed. As should Marvel.

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:06 am

Best First wrote: - driving wildly successful brands into the ground

I like how he claims to have "relaunched" brands like, oh, BATMAN.

Yeah, coz the Bat brand was in such danger until you came along Pats.
The complete lack of selfawaria in any part of the website's text, plus the OMG KEwWl I R teh NiNjitsuMan!1 stuff...you really do have to see it to believe it.
Maybe that's why the site designer (who Pat and Roger probably found in the local coffee-shop) stuck it all in Flash.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:45 pm

It is often said, “A picture is worth a thousand words,” and at Dream Engine, we embody that spirit in full-force.

And suddenly it makes sense. They thought they could pay their artists in words!

"Great picture."
"Thanks. Now, about the bill."
"What? I just paid you in praise!"

If hyperbole were currency, Dreamwave would still be afloat today.

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:00 pm

Brendocon wrote:If hyperbole were currency, Dreamwave would still be afloat today.

In orbit i'd say...

Post by **Denyer** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:55 pm

Legion wrote:plus, they've owned the name since the beginning of last december, when did DW go tits up again?

Entire thing looked all the time like a "managed retreat"—i.e. stockpiling resources, funds and such for the move before ****ing off and leaving everyone else in the lurch.

Stormwolf · Post by **Stormwolf** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:44 pm

Bah, I hate the fact that a lot of people didn't get paid while Pat Lee still keeps on function like nothing happend

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:20 am

How can they take credit for DW's success when they don't take responsibility for their debt? This...upsets me.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:56 am

Professor Smooth wrote:How can they take credit for DW's success when they don't take responsibility for their debt? This...upsets me.

If it helps restore balance to the universe, Dreamwave's only success in my eyes was their mission to go tits up and leave everybody else in the lurch.