Quirks on TF season one DVD

Doug Yarbrough · Post by **Doug Yarbrough** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:01 pm

I noticed a couple of quirks on TF season one involving Starscream. One scene has Thundercracker speaking in place of Starscream in Ultimate Doom when he says "Optimus Prime? Prepare for attack." on seeing Optimus Prime's duplicate enter the room for brainwashed Sparkplug to topple over. This happens again in an episode before that when they create the other two Dinobots. Grimlock Slag and Sludge work Optimus Prime over with brute force and guns and take him to Megatron. Megatron protests because OP is not dead. Grimlock says he'll kill him when he decides he wants to. Starscream warns megatron that Grimlock's loyalties to the Autobots have not entirely died out. "Don't believe him Megatron!" Starscream says...only it's not starscream but Thundercracker.
At first you might think (as I did at first) that this is nothing especially unusual as character drawings and voices are misplaced every now and then throughout the old TF series. HOWEVER, I went back to my TF generation 2 episodes on tape (which are essentially the same thing with all the Cybernet spacecube effects flipping around the screen driving you nuts) and pulled up these episodes. In these exact same scenes STARSCREAM IS PLAYING HIMSELF IN THESE SCENES AS HE SHOULD BE.

Any ideas what happened? I mean how can a transfer mess things up that much? And did Gen 2 transfer do something that Rhino didn't. How difficult is it. How did they manage such an obvious messup.

I also noticed in the season1 that the added sound effects don't always go away in all the episodes when you switch the audio from 5.0 to 2.0

Doug

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:28 pm

Um, it sucks?

Sorry, just kidding.

Okay, not so much.

Seriously though yeah...

...the thing is they were too busy pumping out twenty to thirty minute animated commercials for kids to worry about things like consistency and quality. The toons have a good childhood nostalgia vibe to them, but suck as, well, a solid story without errors.

Gambit · Post by **Gambit** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:01 am

OK, Im no expert on this but...

I beleive that the G2 cartoons were made from the broadcast tapes and the DVD was made from the masters. Also the masters were in very bad shape so I believe they had to work hard to restore them which led to more errors. Of course I could be wrong. Maybe someone else has a better theory?

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:28 pm

I vaguely remember that the bit in the ep where Jet - sorry - SKYfire is discovered, where Prime backs up in the ice tunnels and his trailer appears, was fixed so that it doesn't appear now.
Or did I imagine that?