so what happened to the dreamwave comics?

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so what happened to the dreamwave comics?

Post by Jetfire1138 » Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:39 am

after issue 10 i never saw another issue. i thought it was going pretty good. now i see someone else is going to start over . what gives? :eyebrow:

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Post by Denyer » Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:53 am

The ****wits running the company went bankrupt with huge debts, including many to artists and creators.

http://tfarchive.com/community/showthre ... adid=27943

http://tfarchive.com/community/showthre ... adid=30663

That should get you up to speed.

More nitty-gritty detail here:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/colum ... olumn=litg

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Post by KingMob » Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:46 am

Ah, the traffic-lights are back...
UNJUST DESSERTS

In the wake of the Dreamwave bankruptcy, spare a thought for one of its biggest victims, Pat Lee. How has his lifestyle been affected?

Pat has recently been seen driving his Porsche around Toronto, visiting his favourite coffee shop-- Just Desserts-- where he recruited coffee server Derek Choo-wing there as his Business Manager and other managerial staff.

One sacrifice Pat has had to make it to change his licence plate, which used to read DW CEO but now has a regular plate. Apparently although the car was company owned, Pat was able to pay it off before Dreamwave went bankrupt and transfer the ownership to himself.

Pat has now moved out of his parents house and has recently moved into a brand new condominium.

Lee is currently working for Marvel on "Iron Man." Dreamwave creators still continue to be owed large sums of money, including having to pay FedEx bills that DreamWave didn't cover. Pat Lee is also relaunching "Cyberforce" with Ron Marz for Top Cow.

Just Desserts is located at 300 West Beaver Creek Rd, Richmond Hill, Toronto.
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Post by spiderfrommars » Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:55 am

:lol:

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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:42 am

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Post by Señior's Covenant » Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:23 pm

That is great. :lol:
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Post by Autobloke » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:25 pm

Just Desserts is located at 300 West Beaver Creek Rd, Richmond Hill, Toronto.
Now I know where to go to take a good hard dump.
Just Desserts - when will tw*t Pat get his?
And it has the words 'Beaver Creek' in it. Perhaps 'cos the guy is such a c{SNIP!}
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Post by Señior's Covenant » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:28 pm

I love when that two-worded label shows up. One of my favorite places to visit (though I haven't been there in years now) is the Avon/Beaver Creek area of Colorado. They've got a great beer-run store there; Beaver Liquers, no joke.

Man, I hate Pat Lee. :rant:
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Post by Autobloke » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:32 pm

Señior's Covenant wrote:though I haven't been there in years now
I haven't been anywhere near any kind of beaver in ages. :(

What's his new plate number? We could put out the word to disgruntled TF fans in Beaver *singger* and get them to keep an eye out for his car. Then they could f*ck his sh*t up.
In a n*ce way, of course. ;)

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Post by Metal Vendetta » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:40 pm

I think daubing a big Autobot or Decepticon sign on the bonnet of his Porsche would make the point quite nicely.

Not suggesting anyone do this of course, just pointing it out...
I would have waited a ******* eternity for this!!!!
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Post by Autobloke » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:44 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote:I think daubing a big Autobot or Decepticon sign on the bonnet of his Porsche would make the point quite nicely.
Ah, sweet ironic revenge... :joy:
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Post by Denyer » Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:29 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote:I think daubing a big Autobot or Decepticon sign on the bonnet of his Porsche would make the point quite nicely.
Realistically an outline would be easiest to do in a short timeframe.

Anyone in that neck of the woods? [/not qualified legal advice]

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Post by Brendocon » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:48 pm

Denyer wrote:[/not qualified legal advice]
Always consult a solicitor, but make sure they know what they're talking about.

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Oh... different sort of qualified... I see...
Grrr. Argh.

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Post by Autobloke » Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:40 pm

Denyer wrote:Realistically an outline would be easiest to do in a short timeframe.
I was thinking of a big paint stamp or roller with the Autobot logo carved into it. Quick and easy - just take a couple of seconds.

Or a hot brand - do some REAL damage. :up:
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Post by KingMob » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:47 am

Slight hi-jacking of the thread to just post some more goss that doesn't really need it's own topic.


IDW will be promoting Transformers in San Diego at their booth, and will be having a Q+A that will presumably include info about it during the show.
So if you're interested, keep an eye on the comics reportage sites/blogs for anything of note.
The Beat is pretty good, but has been having some reliablility problems of late. Doubt it will go down tho. Most of the other decent comic sites that will be carrying stuff from Nerd-Prom are linked on the main-page.

http://www.comicon.com/thebeat/archives ... .html#more
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IDW Publishing’s booth at this year’s Comicon International in San Diego, will be home to Fallen Angels and Devil’s Rejects, as well as some Robots in Disguise and much more. In fact you'll SCREAM for Marlon Wayans on Saturday.

Read all the details after the damn jump!

On Saturday, from 1-2 PM, IDW Publishing will be holding a group signing for a number of their celebrated creators, including: #

Peter David, signing copies of his new Spike one-shot #

Ashley Wood and Kris Oprisko, the creative team on Metal Gear Solid #

Ben Templesmith, 30 Days of Night and Singularity 7 artist #

Kieron Dwyer and Rick Remender, the creative team on Night Mary #

Christopher E. Long and Andy Kuhn, the creative team on Easy Way #

John Layman and Dave Crosland, signing their new Puffed TPB #

Chris Ryall and Zach Howard, the creative team on Shaun of the Dead #

Eric Red and Nick Stakal, the creative team on Containment #

Matt Fraction, writer, 30 Days of Night: Bloodsucker Tales #

Bryan Johnson, writer, Karney #

Alex De Campi, writer, Smoke #

Dan Wickline, writer, Blood-Stained Sword #

Hector Casanova, artist, The Lurkers #

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And then, at 3 PM on Saturday, actor/comedian and new comic book writer Marlon Wayans (Scream 3, Requiem for a Dream) will be signing postcards for his special upcoming IDW project, too.

Other creators will also be found loitering on the premises, so you’re invited and encouraged to come by the booth to meet your favorite IDW creators.

IDW’s booth will also be the source of some 7’ tall Transformer banners that were created exclusively for the con by artist Guido Guidi, as well as 7’ tall reproductions of Transformers artist E.J. Su’s first TF covers, and many other large-scale reproductions of upcoming IDW projects. Additionally, IDW will be giving away exclusive posters of Transformers and Ashley Wood’s first Doomed cover, too.

For even more information on IDW’s upcoming slate of books, including word on The Transformers, Fallen Angel, upcoming Clive Barker projects, and much more, please join Editor-in-Chief Chris Ryall, Editor Dan Taylor, writer Peter David, members of Hasbro’s Transformers team and others in Room 2 on Saturday at 3 PM for the IDW Publishing Overview panel and Q&A.
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Post by Best First » Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:14 am

Peter David, signing copies of his new Spike one-shot
but what about the Sparkplug mini series? :o
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Post by spiderfrommars » Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:57 am


IDW’s booth will also be the source of some 7’ tall Transformer banners that were created exclusively for the con by artist Guido Guidi.
I think its safe to say we'll be seeing Guido on future IDW publications. :)

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Post by Best First » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:51 pm

that... would be the glove.
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Post by KingMob » Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:53 am

Best First wrote:
Peter David, signing copies of his new Spike one-shot
but what about the Sparkplug mini series? :o
Mate, I know it sucks, I liked the little yellow minicon too, but Armada is over. Finished. We have to move on.

Weird seeing folks like Peter David up on the same Q+A panel as the Hasbro and TF peeps. Weird but good. :)

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Post by Shanti418 » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:23 am

Additional hijacking of thread for comic and IDW news from the new ToyFare magazine:
- The human characters that will be featured in the on-going Generation One series will be a teenaged runaway, a drifter/street kid, and a conspiracy theorist who is heavily involved in the idea that Transformers do exist among people
- They would like to finish up Dreamwave's old series of War Within Volume 3 and Transformers Energon
- They will be releasing the old Marvel comics in "best of" collections, put together by Simon Furman
- There will be out of continuity mini-series featuring well-known artists and writers doing their own take on the Transformers. The series is tentatively known as "Transformers Evolution", and will be similar to D.C. Comics "Elseworlds"
- IDW is in talks with Hasbro about making a toy of some sorts
Humans - meh. Sounds fine.
WW3 and Energon - :D
Old Marvel - Huh? I don't get it. What's the matter with the Titan TPBs? Who's going to buy these new collections?
Mini Series - AWESOME!
Toys - Duh.
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Post by Autobloke » Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:22 am

- IDW is in talks with Hasbro about making a toy of some sorts
Yay! War Within toys!
Yay! War Within Starscream!
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Oh, wait a second...
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Post by Best First » Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:52 am

Shanti418 wrote: - There will be out of continuity mini-series featuring well-known artists and writers doing their own take on the Transformers. The series is tentatively known as "Transformers Evolution", and will be similar to D.C. Comics "Elseworlds"
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Post by Shanti418 » Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:27 pm

Best First wrote:
Shanti418 wrote: - There will be out of continuity mini-series featuring well-known artists and writers doing their own take on the Transformers. The series is tentatively known as "Transformers Evolution", and will be similar to D.C. Comics "Elseworlds"
glove.
Now this is one I don't know. Is that a good or a bad thing?
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Post by Best First » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:19 pm

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Post by Autobloke » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:47 pm

Shanti418 wrote:Now this is one I don't know. Is that a good or a bad thing?
I was going to ask this too, but I just assumed it was a positive response. Can we have some kind of forum dictionary for when these things appear? Then we know what's being said.

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Post by KingMob » Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:47 am

Autobloke wrote:Numpty.
:eek: Ooooh, I hope that don't mean down there what it does up here.

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Post by Autobloke » Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:15 pm

KingMob wrote: :eek: Ooooh, I hope that don't mean down there what it does up here.
I would imagine it does - but I wasn't calling anyone it, I was just saying it 'cos it's a funny word.
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Post by Predabot » Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:53 pm

If anyones interested, here's a little tidbit, the DreamWave assets are up for sale now. :o

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthr ... adid=38606

This part is of noticable interest:
"As for Dreamwave’s unsold Transformers inventory, reportedly, Hasbro (owner of the Transformer property) is the current owner, though it is unclear whether the company had a clause in their agreement with Dreamwave that it would assume ownership of unsold titles in this type of situation, or if Hasbro asserted ownership of the stock as a result of DW’s non-payment of licensing fees owed. Reportedly, the issues are being held in a Diamond warehouse."

You know...what I'd do if I was the mighty COMPUTRON? I'd call up Brendy and Besty, :twisted: to git deer boouts on a plane, aye? To da states, and then we's break in to da foookin' werehouuse an' git what we wanted!!

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Post by Autobloke » Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:23 pm

Predabot wrote:You know...what I'd do if I was the mighty COMPUTRON? I'd call up Brendy and Besty, :twisted: to git deer boouts on a plane, aye? To da states, and then we's break in to da foookin' werehouuse an' git what we wanted!!
Must be that new Microsoft Tyneside Edition again. :lol:
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Post by Predabot » Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:47 am

Autobloke wrote:Must be that new Microsoft Tyneside Edition again. :lol:
Sure is. :) I's da fookin' chiznit! :up:

So, uh..no-one is interested in commenting this news? :???: Really?

Well, here's some more:

"IDW Publishing to Re-Release Some Dreamwave Products

It appears IDW Publishing has obtained the rights to reprint some of the now defunct Dreamwave's comic book products.

It is unknown if they plan to expand beyond these, but Amazon.com recently put up pre-order pages for the following reprinted Dreamwave G1 Trade Paperbacks:

Transformers: Generation One Volume 1 Feb 2006 $19.99
Transformers: Generation One Volume 2 April 2006 $19.99
Transformers: Generation One Volume 3 March 2006 $19.99
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Linkage: http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=5471

Looks as if maybe the legal hassle around the DW-stories are coming to and end, and the material might be loosening up. Maybe there is a possibility of War Within and Energon seeing a conclusion in tpb-format??

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