What happened to Soundwave and the Terrorcons?

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:01 pm

Before the end of the Time Wars Soundwave and his 'cons flee 1989 to return to 2009. The question is, where did they end up? We know when Rodimus and co returned to the future it had been radically changed: Galvatron was leader and the Decepticons had won.

So, was Soundwave on an alternate timeline, ruling the world in Rodimus Prime's absence?

Was he on the same timeline as Rodimus, but now serving under Galvatron?

Did he cease to exist? (can't think why)

Or was he collecting his Transfans 2005 Favourite Decepticon Character Award..?

Answers on a postcard please...

Post by **Best First** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:05 pm

i think he would have gone through what Rodimus did.

Question is did Galvy remember Time Wars?

if so...

oops.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:31 pm

I think the Terrorcons ended up running UEFA.

Post by **Kaylee** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:41 pm

{is thoroughly confused}

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:52 pm

Okay, some day I have to sit down and thoroughly read Time Wars.

I didn't even know (that?) Soundwave and the Terrorcons were from the future. That would explain my confusion though.

Post by **Best First** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:11 pm

Señior's Covenant wrote:Okay, some day I have to sit down and thoroughly read Time Wars.

I didn't even know (that?) Soundwave and the Terrorcons were from the future. That would explain my confusion though.

Only the future ones, the present day ones were from the present day.

see?

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:19 pm

Best First wrote:
Señior's Covenant wrote:Okay, some day I have to sit down and thoroughly read Time Wars.

I didn't even know (that?) Soundwave and the Terrorcons were from the future. That would explain my confusion though.
Only the future ones, the present day ones were from the present day.

see?

Si.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:13 pm

They should have repainted the future characters so we could tell the difference. They do it all the time in TF series these days.

Post by **Best First** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:29 pm

yes, they could make them all silver.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:57 pm

I don't get it.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:31 pm

IMO, as Soundwave and the Terrorcons return to the future before the Time Storms dies out, they get returned to the future they came from. Unfortunately, that future gets rewritten by the Time Storm's death, so they simply get erased from existence, along with Daniel 'Barbarella' Witwicky, Spike 'Hairy Gallagher-brother eyebrows' Witwicky, and 'Gold-plated' Autobot City: Earth.

Autobloke wrote:I don't get it.

It's real simple. In a double-episode of that dire Battlestar Galactica spin-off, Galactica 1980, they go back in time to prevent the renegade Galactican from altering Earth's history towards a Nazi victory. Their clothing turns white due to the time-travel effects.

Now, obviously, Transformers don't wear clothes, and are made of metal, so all their colouring would fade to the basic silvery colour of metal.

Simple, see?

No idea what Besty was on about, btw.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:32 am

Autobloke wrote:They should have repainted the future characters so we could tell the difference. They do it all the time in TF series these days.

Remember that G1 episode where they went to a negative universe, and everyone was painted horribly, but they only stayed there for like two seconds?

MAN, that was some wasted potential for a story, let alone a bunch of repaint jokes.

Scraplet · Post by **Scraplet** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:44 am

Best First wrote:yes, they could make them all silver.

Squidward: "why is everything chrome?!"

Spongebob: "It's the future - Everything's chrome!!"

Post by **Kaylee** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:50 am

Scraplet wrote:
Best First wrote:yes, they could make them all silver.
Squidward: "why is everything chrome?!"

Spongebob: "It's the future - Everything's chrome!!"

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:08 am

Now I see. I don't watch 'the Bob', so it all went over my head. I'm considering sampling the movie though.
I think Rebis answered the Soundwave/Terrorcon thing pretty well though - that damn 'time-travel/ future never happened' thing, eh?

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:25 pm

Scraplet wrote:
Best First wrote:yes, they could make them all silver.
Squidward: "why is everything chrome?!"

Spongebob: "It's the future - Everything's chrome!!"

Rebis wrote:IMO, as Soundwave and the Terrorcons return to the future before the Time Storms dies out, they get returned to the future they came from. Unfortunately, that future gets rewritten by the Time Storm's death, so they simply get erased from existence, along with Daniel 'Barbarella' Witwicky, Spike 'Hairy Gallagher-brother eyebrows' Witwicky, and 'Gold-plated' Autobot City: Earth.

In'it great?

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:51 pm

Rebis wrote:IMO, as Soundwave and the Terrorcons return to the future before the Time Storms dies out, they get returned to the future they came from. Unfortunately, that future gets rewritten by the Time Storm's death, so they simply get erased from existence, along with Daniel 'Barbarella' Witwicky, Spike 'Hairy Gallagher-brother eyebrows' Witwicky, and 'Gold-plated' Autobot City: Earth.

Yup, what he said i reckon!

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:55 pm

or perhaps instead of ceasing to exist they go into Limbo? sort of like they displaced themselves from time, and end up in erm Limbo

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:12 pm

Well theGalvatron in ASpects of Evil never referred to know Rodimus travelled in time..

Ergo,I think only Rod and co. arrived back into a future that was changed while they were away. It's like they arrived in a paralell universe...

It's widely possible that that future already had a Rodimus Prime, who was killed prior to the another R.arriving.

Confused?

Me too.

ShadowSonic · Post by **ShadowSonic** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:20 pm

I take the whole pre-time storm/post-timestormt hing as thus:

Soundwvae and his crew returned to the future before the storm ended, and so they returned to the future as they remembered it, but when the time storm ended the timeline was rewritten, and the future everyone came from was totally destroyed and rewritten into a new one.

Since Rodimus and co styaed in the past until everything changed, they were unaffected, time changed around them, but the changes didn't affect them.

Thus, when they returned everything was differant EXCEPT them.

What I want to know is, in the new timeline Rodimus and co still had to go back to the past, otherwise everyone in the future would've been "why'd you go into the past? THere's no reason" when they returned, since Rodimus never mentioned anything like that in "Aspects of Evil" it mean that in the revised timeline they still had a reason to go back to the past (couldn't have been for Galvatron). WHAT WAS THAT REASON?!

Stormwolf · Post by **Stormwolf** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:24 pm

I'm confused, so I'll use the Dreamwave method of resolving things:

Shockwave did it.

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:32 pm

Stormwolf wrote:Shockwave did it.

Indeed he did Stormwolf. Indeed he did.

*Turns head slowly to the side as the camera angle pans in for a contemplative closeup all the while a powerful 80's cheese-flick orchestrate-instrumental playing right before the credits roll.*

ShadowSonic · Post by **ShadowSonic** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:44 pm

Shockwave didn't do EVERYTHING. Unicron helped bring him back, Vector Sigma cuased the Great Shutdown, Shockers' simply accelerated the natural evolution of the TF race with Triple-Chnagers, Duocons, etc.

"Shockwvae did it" is a bit of an over-generalization, don't you think? It's like saying "Tarantulas did it" for most of the important stuff in Beast Wars...

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:48 pm

ShadowSonic wrote:"Shockwvae did it" is a bit of an over-generalization, don't you think?

It might also be a long-running, if not too long, joke.

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:48 pm

ShadowSonic wrote:"Shockwvae did it" is a bit of an over-generalization, don't you think? It's like saying "Tarantulas did it" for most of the important stuff in Beast Wars...

Shockwave did that too.

It's a joke SS, or 'running gag' to be more exact.

ShadowSonic · Post by **ShadowSonic** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:02 pm

I know

It's just never been that funny to me...

Anyways, any idea on that time-travel issue we were discussing?

Geez, I really wish that they had gotten the guys who wrote the time-travel episodes of the old X-Men cartoon (The episodes with Bishop and Cable) to help out on their time-travel stories, they actually did it RIGHT and in a sensical fashion...

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:13 pm

I think "Shockwave did it" will ALWAYS be pretty funny to me.

Besides, it's only been around since DW, b/c DW really DID have Shockers behind everything.

ShadowSonic · Post by **ShadowSonic** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:22 pm

...But he wasn't...he was only behind the Great Restoration, everything else was either Vector Sigma, Unicron, the Quints...

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:31 pm

ShadowSonic wrote:...he was only behind the Great Restoration,...

And the Micromasters, and all upgrading of Cybertron-based Transformers to Earth alt. modes on select few for no well-explained reason, and the Ark II blowing up on Earth, and total manipulation of everyone and everything, and Ultra Magnus' placement in a position of authority, and the creation of Triplechangers and Duocons, and Pat Lee's spending habit, and so on and so forth.

ShadowSonic · Post by **ShadowSonic** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:13 pm

He was behind the Micros? I thought Vector Sigma did that.

Anywho, the Triple-Changers and presumably the Ducocons were really evolving on their own, he just accelerated the process.

I never understood why they changed Halo destroying the Ark to Shcokwave doing it, why not just say he convinced Halo to do it, but it was still Halo?