little annoyances in Transformers art

Dead Head · Post by **Dead Head** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:07 pm

Artist niggles? I'm always bugged by:
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* Overly shrunken waists on Transformers which contrast with their broad shoulders (Dan Khanna step forward).

* Galvatron's three 'head-prongs' when they're drawn far too long. Then it just looks foolish.

* Japanese artists' tendencies to splay Optimus Prime's antennae outwards at an angle, rather than going up directly vertical.

* Overly pronounced 'chin-juts' on all Transformers. It's fine for a few for whom it's their established look (example: Scorponok and Fort Max's faces), but when they're all super-chinned wonders it starts to grate with me.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:44 pm

* bad storytelling (I'm looking at you Pat Lee and Rob Ruffalo)

* boxy TFs (I'm looking at you Jose Delbo)

* bendy TFs (.....Dan Reed)

* general half-arsedness (Frank Springer RIP, but really, you could've tried harder)

* plagarism (John Stokes, Manny Galan, stop!)

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:40 pm

I hate it when a TF gets hurt they bend over backwards like thier back is broken or somthing!!

anna · Post by **anna** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 1:58 pm

the neck cables in the g2 comics great read sucky art.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:34 pm

Will Simpson giving TFs nostrils.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:41 pm

What about teeth? Or tongues? Or eyelids? Or fingernails/clawed fingers? Beards?

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:43 pm

Dreamwave.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:44 pm

Señior's Covenant wrote:Dreamwave.

Hmm... original.
Although they did love their 'about to take a dump' pose, didn't they?

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:50 pm

Autobloke wrote:
Señior's Covenant wrote:Dreamwave.
Hmm... original.
Although they did love their 'about to take a dump' pose, didn't they?

Shockwave's favorite when info-dumping coincidentally.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:40 pm

fingernails is cool - they are weapons and have many other manipulation uses

Stormwolf · Post by **Stormwolf** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:50 pm

Beards make no sense, except ofcourse with Unicron and Scourge I suppose.

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:02 pm

I always liked the metalline-"beard" look really. Distinctive.

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:11 pm

The early, and recent use of too much toy accurate-ness.

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:12 pm

Dan Reed's bendy limbs...

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:00 pm

Seeing the internal gobbledycircuits of TF mouths, overlarge eyes and generally gaping, staring, glaikit expressions.
I'm thinking Will Simpson here.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:43 pm

Stormwolf wrote:Beards make no sense, except ofcourse with Unicron and Scourge I suppose.

Why does it make sense for them and not others?
And I still think fingernails on TFs are dumb. Big-ass claws yes, but not something that looks like they need to visit a nailbar. NAILBAR!

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:06 pm

KingMob wrote:Seeing the internal gobbledycircuits of TF mouths, overlarge eyes and generally gaping, staring, glaikit expressions.
I'm thinking Will Simpson here.

I get nostalgic for Will Simpson though, especially his Jetfire. It just looks...right...

And I notice a lot of Reed-haters out there. I dunno, his stuff has soooo grown on me.

Stormwolf · Post by **Stormwolf** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:19 pm

Autobloke wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:Beards make no sense, except ofcourse with Unicron and Scourge I suppose.
Why does it make sense for them and not others?

Unicron already had a beard while he was still in his energy form, this was clearly seen in legacy of Unicron. Scourge was somewhat modeled after him.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:21 pm

Right. My bad. Can I still bitch about Alpha Trion's beard (which seems to grow too)? Even though it's cartoon, not comic?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:23 pm

Señior's Covenant wrote:Dreamwave.

...whose annoyance was having limitations imposed upon then to try and make each booklet have something resembling a plot, and covering up their self-proclaimed 'fantastic' art with speech bubbles and caption boxes.

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:39 am

^Good call. Poor layouts and speech-boxes superglued all over artwork is a notable issue, as that's not down to taste - it's a straightforward sign of bad work.

I actually like most of Will Simpson's stuff, it's really dynamic and energetic...just some of his detailing rubs me up the wrong way. And I have to say, I've always been fond of Dan Reed's stuff also...it's weird, but groovy weird.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 9:25 am

At the time I hated it, but now having a totally different take on how to draw TFs is most certainly a good thing. And he really made them his own - the City of Fear stuff is spectacular.

Stormwolf · Post by **Stormwolf** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:22 am

Autobloke wrote:Right. My bad. Can I still bitch about Alpha Trion's beard (which seems to grow too)? Even though it's cartoon, not comic?

Sure

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:43 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote:At the time I hated it, but now having a totally different take on how to draw TFs is most certainly a good thing. And he really made them his own - the City of Fear stuff is spectacular.

I quite like it when people draw TF different, one such good example is Jae Lee. But what I don't like is when there are bad artists on Transformers, and Dan Reed (who I didn't even know the name of until now, but have read the 'work' of) is one of them.

And sorry, but no. I really can't see many things good with his work on TF, and I'm going to take a little bit of an 'Impy-stance' on this. Infact, I don't think he should have had anything to with TF in the first place.

There is a few not so harsh words I'm going to use tho. And that that he's probably very suitable to some other kind of comic, and that I don't feel he's the worst artist that's worked on TF. Lower-scrape tho.