Snippet of info, re comic license...

Post by **Best First** » Thu May 19, 2005 10:43 pm

DM's criticism is just bizarre:

They are a crap publisher because they published a comic that LATER caused some problems for me and my mates and LATER may have been ripped off from something else (never heard Miller whining about this...).

They also published a comic by someone who went through the US juctice system and a year later was in a position to write comics - surely if DM has an issue it should be with the US justice system, not someone who employs a free citizen.

His criticism make no ****ing sense.

Post by **Kaylee** » Thu May 19, 2005 10:43 pm

I'm just glad you're workin on the film, Don. Probably the best thing to happen to TF since the original series. Some good can happen, yet few and far between when Hasbro is involved.

*sigh*

*EDIT* Hopefully the movie will become the "standard" as far as continuity goes. It's sickening having all these alternate realities based on the original G1 mythos.

It's not the only thing sickening...

Man alive, do the posters there have anything between their ears except cheese fondu?

Post by **Best First** » Thu May 19, 2005 10:45 pm

the occasional bit of bread that got lost when dipping.

Post by **Kaylee** » Thu May 19, 2005 10:48 pm

Best First wrote:the occasional bit of bread that got lost when dipping.

Post by **Denyer** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:09 pm

This is one producer who doesn't plan to cooperate with them.

Seems pretty ****ing stupid considering Hasbro are already a little narked at the mess DW left them with.

http://tfarchive.com/community/showthre ... adid=30663

I don't know if this is legit, but if so watch Newsarama tomorrow;

if you want more information on what our initial plans are for the book, creators, pricing, all of that, check out Newsarama.com tomorrow morn.

I tried to answer everything I could in that interview, but if you have more questions, ask away and I'll try to get to 'em. Today's been a bit hectic, as you might imagine...

Incidentally, it's not our plan to ignore the Dreamwave material or the unfinished material at all. As it stands now, Hasbro will have to directly address this situation, since they and Dreamwave have the whole bankruptcy to deal with, and those things drag out a while. But we have every intention of resolving this best we can, and releasing comics that never get released.

Anyway... hi! Hope you like what we have planned. And I hope to meet some of ya at Bot-Con in Dallas in September, too.

Chris Ryall
Editor-in-Chief
IDW Publishing

Post by **Kaylee** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:11 pm

At least they sound nicer than Don Murphy. ^_^

bobaprime85 · Post by **bobaprime85** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:13 pm

Karl Lynch wrote:At least they sound nicer than Don Murphy. ^_^

Well, that's not exactly hard, unfortunately.

Damn, why is it that Transfandom is always getting screwed over in some fashion?

Post by **Kaylee** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:15 pm

bobaprime85 wrote:
Karl Lynch wrote:At least they sound nicer than Don Murphy. ^_^
Well, that's not exactly hard, unfortunately.

Damn, why is it that Transfandom is always getting screwed over in some fashion?

Because we seem to be for the most part gullible, easily led, fickle, fractured, contradictory and ultimately seem to buy en-mass whatever garbage they throw at us?

bobaprime85 · Post by **bobaprime85** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:16 pm

Karl Lynch wrote:
bobaprime85 wrote:
Karl Lynch wrote:At least they sound nicer than Don Murphy. ^_^
Well, that's not exactly hard, unfortunately.

Damn, why is it that Transfandom is always getting screwed over in some fashion?
Because we seem to be for the most part gullible, easily led, fickle, fractured, contradictory and ultimately seem to buy en-mass whatever garbage they throw at us?

Oh. Right. Forgot.

Sorry.

Post by **Denyer** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:25 pm

Karl Lynch wrote:At least they sound nicer than Don Murphy. ^_^

Not hard judging by recent temper tantrums.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:27 pm

Best First wrote:His criticism make no ****ing sense.

I'm glad it's not just me who thinks that. His biggest complaint seems to be that IDW is run by "weenies", whatever that means.

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Fri May 20, 2005 6:56 am

IDW aren't that fantastic IMHO - they're books are shiny shiny pricey pricey.

Seriously, have you seen them? If you haven't got them in your LCS, you'll be able to find a 24 or CSI trade in your local bookstore. Very staid work, average in every way.

The other serial books I've seen are generally marked out by nice paper, shiny covers and artistic, often painted and dark (as in hard to see) artwork.
They also tend to cost a quid or more than the average (already overpriced) comic books.
Although the guy does say he wants to price the TF book under the usual $3.99. Means we might only have to pay about £3.15 or something, oh joy.

Still, the press release and things the chap have said are nice and it all seems very organised and they do release quality product and take their licenses seriously.
I'll be picking up the zero issue, obv, but I'm neither pleased nor disappointed by this news.

PS Denyer, allright if I steal your quote from the nice chappy and link to your board at A N Other site?

PPS Who gives a rat's arse what Don Murphy thinks anyway?

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Fri May 20, 2005 8:40 am

KingMob wrote:PS Denyer, allright if I steal your quote from the nice chappy and link to your board at A N Other site?

Heh, lookin' at the Seib'!

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Fri May 20, 2005 9:42 am

Shhhhhh! Don't mention the war!

Post by **Best First** » Fri May 20, 2005 10:00 am

i mentioned it, but i thinki got way with it.

Post by **Denyer** » Fri May 20, 2005 12:19 pm

KingMob wrote:PS Denyer, allright if I steal your quote from the nice chappy and link to your board at A N Other site?

Dude, far as I'm concerned you never have to ask permission to relay info. Idea of news is that it's passed around.

Here's that Newsarama interview:

http://www.newsarama.com/IDW/transforme ... rstalk.htm

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Fri May 20, 2005 1:19 pm

More important than what any company did in the past, we've actually been lurking at the various Transformers message boards for months now, taking into consideration what the fans have liked, what they haven't, and what they might like to see in a new title

Our initial title, which starts in October's "0" issue and continues in the 6-part Transformers: Infiltration that debuts in January, will be its own continuity.

There will also be collections of out-of-print material, collections of past issues that have never made it to trade paperback form, and some other cool things, too.

Crisis of Command and Ancient Relics?

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Fri May 20, 2005 1:44 pm

It certainly sounds interesting. Whilst yet another reboot fails to exciten me, with Furman at the helm of an ongoing from the start it could be good. And they have promised other titles for long time fans so I shall wait and see.

Post by **Best First** » Fri May 20, 2005 2:39 pm

sounds like it has some potential. Certainly comes across a bit better in interview thans than most of DW's mouth pieces.

I liked the comment about Crisis on Infinite Cybertrons...

not overwhelmed by Su perosnally, but he's not terrible either.

bloody january though.

Dead Head · Post by **Dead Head** » Fri May 20, 2005 2:55 pm

I get the impression elsewhere that people would prefer each issue of this new comic to either contain the amazing adventures of Nightbird, or to follow the wacky 'Three's Company'-esque happenings of Hot Rod/Arcee/Springer.

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Fri May 20, 2005 3:03 pm

Dead Head wrote:I get the impression elsewhere that people would prefer each issue of this new comic to either contain the amazing adventures of Nightbird, or to follow the wacky 'Three's Company'-esque happenings of Hot Rod/Arcee/Springer.

Dear lord don't do that. I think that almost produced a stroke.

From the interview...

Chris Ryall: ...we've actually been lurking at the various Transformers message boards for months now, taking into consideration what the fans have liked, what they haven't, and what they might like to see in a new title.

Hi Chris! Hire me!

We plan to interact more closely with some of these fan sites on some projects over the next few months, too… unbeknownst to them until they read this, anyway.

Ten bucks says

has a hand in this.

And we'll be attending Bot-Con in Dallas this September, so it'll be nice to meet some of the loyal fans face-to-face. In fact, you Bot-Con attendees are in for a nice surprise this year, too… more on that later.

Yay!

Okay, let's say a bit more. Our "0" issue in October will carry a price of $0.99, and will be a 24-page comic, offering a 16-page story that sets up the entire first storyline, some interviews and editorial pages that speak to our future plans, and additional pieces of artwork from other folks, too, all carrying IDW's usual high production values.

Nice.

Transformers: Infiltration will be a 6-part story (6 & ½, actually) that reintroduces the Transformers mythos from the ground up. It will be written by Simon Furman and feature art by E.J. Su, who we'll talk about more in a moment.

Nice and works for me. I have no problem starting over given what's been produced lately.

The relaunched Transformers title will carry a $2.99 cover price.

Decent.

Okay, but then this...

We all realize and are sensitive to the fact that there are other continuities out there, as well as some unfinished stories, and will work to resolve those to fans' satisfaction as well. Which is why we'll logically then lead right into our Crisis on Infinite Cybertrons maxi-series by Wolfman and Perez...*

...followed by...

[*Note: not really].

That's intended for the "by Wolfman and Perez" part, right?

I'm happy. Namely because it's Friday, but this is nice as well!

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Fri May 20, 2005 3:13 pm

Hmm...

hm..

Ok.

The IDW-Prime pointing his finger is not all that impressive, but that's mostly because of the gaudy colors. (Incidentally I acctually think it looks a bit like my own style...

)

Ej Su...Is not as hot as other TF-artists, or to put it this way: "EJ su Inferior - Many other artists SUPERIOR".

Simon Furman on board is pretty awesome, could do some good stuff, and he certainly has a lot of time on him... ( Best First said it best himself..) Here comes the really whiny part....

NOOOooo!!!!!!!!! Not one more continuity!! We already have4 different continuities! For G1 alone! Gah, no Ozz, this gets the preds tumb down,

down I say!

We'll see in October of these people are going to prove worthy of this title.
And that bloody pic of that 'kid' sitting up at the disassembled Prime made me cringe.

Sigh...just continue TWW for crying out loud. There might be a plus there by the way, as:

We all realize and are sensitive to the fact that there are other continuities out there, as well as some unfinished stories, and will work to resolve those to fans' satisfaction as well.

I hope this means that TF:Energon will get the closure it deserves.

They have a lot to live up to, both art-wise and story-wise. And they can never be allowed to compromise even one of these, cause then it'll fold.

Post by **Denyer** » Fri May 20, 2005 3:22 pm

Predabot wrote:We already have4 different continuities! For G1 alone!

Haven't really been paying attention, have you?

G1 cartoon
Marvel comics (G1 and G2)
First Marvel TF/GI Joe crossover
UK comics (primary timeline, a meatier version of the Marvel comics)
UK future comics (2005/2006 Unicron attack, Death's Head, Aspects of Evil, etc.)
UK "dark future" comics (Autobots defeated)
UK comics' "Perchance to Dream" universe
UK Earthforce stories
UK "Another Time and Place" story
UK G2 comics
UK Big Broadcast of 2006 comic story
Rhythms of Darkness comic story
Ladybird books
TF Action Cards continuity
Find Your Fate TF books
Junior TF books
Big Looker TF storybooks
Blackthorne 3-D comics
G1 colouring books
G2 colouring books
G1 animated commercials
Japanese G1 anime
Japanese G1 manga
Dreamwave G1 comics

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Fri May 20, 2005 3:27 pm

Err..obviously not. To me the 4 continuities that flew up on my mind was mainly:

1.Marvel US G1/G2 Comic
2.Sunbow Cartoon
3. UK-comic
4.Dreamwave

I must say, you are a true fan, Denyer.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Fri May 20, 2005 3:28 pm

But we have every intention of [...] releasing comics that never get released.

It's Pat Lee again!

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Fri May 20, 2005 3:29 pm

I can't count that many continuities... ......I ran out of fingers. [/ha]

Post by **Denyer** » Fri May 20, 2005 3:33 pm

Predabot wrote:I must say, you are a true fan, Denyer.

I nicked the list from Zob. It's not actually exhaustive... the UK comic depends on how you join the dots, for instance...

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Fri May 20, 2005 3:39 pm

Denyer wrote:I nicked the list from Zob.

Explains the misspelt "Rhythms"...

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Fri May 20, 2005 8:35 pm

Yeah, it should also include
DD GI Joe vs TF
DW TF vs GI Joe
both of which were new continuities IIRC

Post by **Denyer** » Fri May 20, 2005 8:46 pm

Yeah, at the time that was written there was still conjecture whether DW G1 would lead into BW...