Which character had the most consistent character?

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 3:13 am

Between continunities and even within them.

I'd say Bumblebee. Pretty much exactly the same in comic, cartoon and tech specs.
Though I haven't really thought about it I'd love for you lot to

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:56 am

Starscream had always been a cock!

jboyler · Post by **jboyler** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 9:55 am

I agree. Starscream is always the world's biggest blue falcon. He's very consistent that way, and it seems the only time he acts against type is when he gets his wires are crossed.

In addition to Bumblebee and Starscream, I would also say Death's Head. Of course, he has something of an advantage over the others because his appearances are more limited. (No cartoon version)

Megatron comes close, but he too often alternates between being a strategic mastermind and an aggressive bully. Let's just say he's the best of both worlds.

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 10:23 am

Rumble and Frenzy? They always are loud-mouthed punks.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 1:41 pm

Optimus Prime - every time there's a problem, he sacrifices himself to solve it. In every continuity.

Post by **Kaylee** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 3:26 pm

Ironhide: "I cant seem ta get the fridge open and ma beers insaad!"
Prime: "Don't worry!" BANG
Ironhide: Woah... Prime's dead! ...And the fridge came unstuck! Ho-ha!"

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:40 pm

I agree on the Bumblebee suggestion. And Ravage. And most of the G1s in fact. Within a series the characters mainly stay the same course - except in Armada/Energon where they're all over the place - even stalwarts like Prime.
If you mean across the series, then the task gets much harder. I would have agreed with the Starscream thing because he is usually the same back-stabbin' traitor he always is, except that he kissed Megatron/Galvatron's ass all the way through the Energon cartoon.
The problem with this kind of topic is that character names are sometimes just reused on a completely different type of character when a new series of toys comes around and the cartoon/comic versions are utterly changed - like Ironhide: G1 - crusty hardass, Energon - whiney tit. Wasn't there an Ironhide in RID? A cowboy/texan type? (no, not X-Brawn).
Unless the character is expressly tagged as a version of a particular one from the past then we're screwed in consistency.

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 6:06 pm

I wouldn't say ravage. His comic version could talk, think and actually make infulential decisions on events. The cartoon just growled and spyed.

Dispite MV's comically accurate observation, Optimus (bar multiple deaths) had quite different comic and cartoon characterss.

In the cartoon he was eternally Optimistic and determined. From quite early on, in the UK comic especially, he was plagued by doubts about the war and the best course of action.

Starscream was indeed quite consistent as far as G1 goes. Energon though.....

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 6:12 pm

Jetfire wrote:I wouldn't say ravage. His comic version could talk, think and actually make infulential decisions on events. The cartoon just growled and spyed.

Ah, but he was always a 'good dog' (well, Jaguar).
Check out Unicron's inconsistencies over the series.

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 7:18 pm

In one Story Ravage betrayed a version of Megatron

Not such a good dog. But his character is what was very different.

I've never claimed Unicron was the most consistent. Least of all his size.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:20 pm

Galvatron

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 9:14 pm

IMPACTOR!

And don't reply with "Yes?"

Bouncelot · Post by **Bouncelot** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 10:04 pm

Autobloke wrote:IMPACTOR!

And don't reply with "Yes?"

No?

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:54 am

Grimlock.

Okay, just kidding.

I think he would probably get the vote for most different.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:44 am

sprunkner wrote:Grimlock.

Okay, just kidding.

I think he would probably get the vote for most different.

or Shockwave.

I'd have to say that either Bumblebee or Starscream would take it. Screamer would narrowly edge out Bumblebee just because he's been the same for 20 years while Bumblebee stopped showing up around 1989.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:28 am

Daniel. Consistently annoying. Any argument there?

Post by **Denyer** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:39 am

Hubcap.

Starscream was indeed quite consistent as far as G1 goes. Energon though...

Is there some link between the two I'm missing?

Bouncelot · Post by **Bouncelot** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:49 am

Professor Smooth wrote:I'd have to say that either Bumblebee or Starscream would take it. Screamer would narrowly edge out Bumblebee just because he's been the same for 20 years while Bumblebee stopped showing up around 1989.

With all these comments about Bumblebee being the most consistent, I'm not so sure. In Marvel continuity, he developed almost into a leader type, and wasn't afraid to stand up to the likes of Grimlock. Yes, he had occasional lapses into his cartoon personality (Plight of the Bumblebee (PUTTUP)), but he generally rose above it. Therefore it has to be Starscream.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:50 am

Denyer wrote:Hubcap.

Starscream was indeed quite consistent as far as G1 goes. Energon though...
Is there some link between the two I'm missing?

That's the problem of comparing across different series.
Did Hubcap ever appear in anything apart from the toyline? Or is this a joke?

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:03 pm

Professor Smooth wrote:
sprunkner wrote:Grimlock.

Okay, just kidding.

I think he would probably get the vote for most different.
or Shockwave.

I'd have to say that either Bumblebee or Starscream would take it. Screamer would narrowly edge out Bumblebee just because he's been the same for 20 years while Bumblebee stopped showing up around 1989.

Promisingly i hear that Hasbro have just trademarked the name Bumblebee again. I hope this means a eventual return for my fave minibot

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:18 pm

Wasn't Bumblebee 'confirmed' for the new movie in the Don Murphy chat?

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:16 pm

I take every piece of movie news with a pinch of salt.

I think he would be ideal though

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:30 pm

Hound wrote:I take every piece of movie news with a pinch of salt.

I think he would be ideal though

Why else would they want the name? Except for use in Galaxy Force (well, 'Cybertron') perhaps.
They were dumb to let such classic character names 'slip' in the first place - like Shockwave, Hotrod etc. Especially now they have to put the prefix 'Autobot' before most of the names now to use them legally.

bobaprime85 · Post by **bobaprime85** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:10 pm

Karl Lynch wrote:Ironhide: "I cant seem ta get the fridge open and ma beers insaad!"
Prime: "Don't worry!" BANG
Ironhide: Woah... Prime's dead! ...And the fridge came unstuck! Ho-ha!"

Behold - Budiansky's original plot for "AfterDeath"!

Anyway, Screamer has basically stayed the same cliche for the past twenty years. Bumblebee also goes down as consistent over the years.

As an aside, am I the only one who thinks that the name troubles Hasbro has in regards to the TFs is a bit rediculous. I mean, are people really going to think that a robot named "Jazz" or "Bluestreak" is trying to cash in on some other property?

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:15 pm

The legal name wrangles are dumb. The fact that I didn't even know Hasbro had lost some of the TF names to other companies until about a year ago means that I never noticed (or cared) that other companies were now using the names. So surely it shouldn't be too much of a problem really.